ESL, Formal, General & Business Letter Writing (English language)

Re: Signing on behalf of a superior

RayH — Thu, 22 May 2008 16:07:52 GMT

This link should clear things up once and for all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procuration

A brief excerpt from the Wiki article: "The correct usage is the subject of some debate..."

So, that obviously clears things up... right? Hello? Is anyone there?

Re: Signing on behalf of a superior

Anonymous — Thu, 22 May 2008 15:40:24 GMT

but if it means 'through the agency of' it's through the agency of the Superior..

so it would be :

My Signature,

'through the agency' of My Boss, Esquire

Re: Signing on behalf of a superior

Anonymous — Fri, 16 May 2008 10:13:08 GMT

Signatures on behalf of anyone, regardless of who they are, as long as you have permission to sign on their behalf. The pp goes in front of their name and your signature in place of theirs.

Yours faithfully,

Your signature

pp Name of actual sender Title of sender

Re: Signing on behalf of a superior

Grammar Geek — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:21:41 GMT

Anon, perhaps you could cast your eyes up just a touch to the post just above yours.

Re: Signing on behalf of a superior

Anonymous — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:55:30 GMT

Did you ever get an answer to this question? I'm interested to know what pp actually stands for.. do you know?

Re: Signing on behalf of a superior

Mister Micawber — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:22:59 GMT

Per procurationem (Latin for 'by agency of')

Re: Signing on behalf of a superior

Anonymous — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:47:39 GMT

To sign on behalf of my boss, usually write pp, What does it mean by p.p.

Re: Signing on behalf of a superior

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:01:37 GMT

Is there any deference between sign on behalf of sb and sign for sb?

Re: Signing on behalf of a superior

nona the brit — Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:57:15 GMT

The letter would still be signed by an individual, surely. A government can't sign a letter. So pp is still appropriate.

Re: Signing on behalf of a superior

Anonymous — Wed, 26 Jul 2006 11:52:46 GMT

Does the same pattern apply to letters on behalf of a government? Or is pp used strictly in business letters?

Re: Signing on behalf of a superior

Anonymous — Mon, 22 Aug 2005 12:14:30 GMT

From time to time we argue about this in our office. 'Per procurationem' means 'through the agency of', and many sources (including the Oxford Concise Dictionary) advise that the 'pp' comes before the name of the person signing. Some in my office continue to put the pp before the name of the person not signing, as although they acknowledge that this is formally incorrect, people will think them incorrect is they do it the correct way. At the moment, I am still holding out for putting it before the name of the person signing.

Re: Signing on behalf of a superior

Cool_boy — Sun, 24 Jul 2005 11:59:04 GMT

thanks

Re: Signing on behalf of a superior

Mister Micawber — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 15:50:06 GMT

No, just the signature.

Re: Signing on behalf of a superior

Cool_boy — Sat, 23 Jul 2005 06:44:03 GMT

is there still a need to print the name of the person who signed on behalf of the boss?

Re: Signing on behalf of a superior

Mister Micawber — Thu, 21 Jul 2005 23:52:15 GMT

per procurationem (for and on behalf of)

And it is 'p.p.', and it comes not before your signature but before the superior's name.