http://www.englishforums.com/English/FormalGeneralBusinessLetter-Writing/Forum5.htmFormal letter-writing questions, how to write a cover letter, general, business, official, reference, character, leave, sponsorship, or invitation letter, CVs, writing to an English company, Learn how to start and end a letter.enXMOD (Build: 3607.32596)http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/7/qgww/Post.htm#845773Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:21:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:845773Grammar Geek0http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/7/qgww/Post.htm#845773http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-845773.xmlSimply reply To Whom it May Concern: No, no, and no! You know who sent the correspondence. You know her name. The only thing you don't know is whether to use "Miss" or "Mrs." or "Ms." As this thread should have made abudantely clear, if you don't know, use "Ms." You use "To whom is may concern" only when any number of yet unkonwn people may read it - a letter of recommendation, perhaps. You would never use it when you know the recipient but simply not her marital status. It's time to lock this thread before any additional well-meaning but totally erroneous advice is given.http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/7/qgww/Post.htm#845754Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:06:15 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:845754Anonymous1http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/7/qgww/Post.htm#845754http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-845754.xmlSimply reply To Whom it May Concern:http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/7/qgww/Post.htm#755177Sat, 30 May 2009 01:05:00 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:755177cwtch2http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/7/qgww/Post.htm#755177http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-755177.xmlIt ' s best in a c o ver letter , if you do not know the title , to ring the company and very politely ask the secretary who it is you should be addressing the letter to.. Remember to get the absolute correct spelling as well. This is good advice, even if there is no secretary. If you ring my company, you will likely get me. However, I would see someone asking how to spell my name as a good thing. I would see them as someone who cares about being accurate.http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/7/qgww/Post.htm#754950Fri, 29 May 2009 22:42:36 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:754950Anonymous3http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/7/qgww/Post.htm#754950http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-754950.xmlIts best in a cver letter if you do not know the title to ring the company and very politely ask the secretary who it is you should be addressing the letter to.. Remember to get absolute correct spelling as well.http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/6/qgww/Post.htm#753710Fri, 29 May 2009 06:02:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:753710cwtch4http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/6/qgww/Post.htm#753710http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-753710.xmlIf you don't know. use Ms. as it is neutral regarding marital status. Miss is for unmarried women. Mrs is for married women. Ms is for 'unknowns' and any woman who wishes to use it. This is a good short answer. MrMicawber, Clive and Grammar Geek have sound advice too. Here's my two cents: If the marital status is unknown, use Ms. If the woman's preference is unknown, use Ms. If the woman prefers Ms., use it. (And it is definitely pronounced Mizz.) If you know the woman is married, use the title the woman prefers if you know her preference. If you don't know the preference, there is a judgment call. If it is a business situation, I would use Ms. If it is a teacher, I would use...http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/6/qgww/Post.htm#753117Thu, 28 May 2009 19:18:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:753117Clive5http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/6/qgww/Post.htm#753117http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-753117.xmlHi, Just saying 'miss' is not a very helpful comment. Would you like to tell us why you recommend 'miss'? Best wishes, Clivehttp://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/6/qgww/Post.htm#753064Thu, 28 May 2009 18:39:30 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:753064Anonymous6http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/6/qgww/Post.htm#753064http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-753064.xmlmisshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/6/qgww/Post.htm#745402Sun, 24 May 2009 11:53:22 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:745402Anonymous7http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/6/qgww/Post.htm#745402http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-745402.xmlHi the person you are approaching in any form if their TITLE is known to you for instance MR SHEIKH bla bla usually if you know their sex/gender with any MALE MR is applied MS is normally applied when HER status in unknown for instance you are not aware that MADAM SARAH is a MISS OR A MRS so you will put MS also sometime that person may well be approached by their sir name that can be a MALE sir Name but you do know that you are approaching a Female again you can put MS. Miss is for unmarriied and indeed younger females too like young boys can be mentioned as MASTER GEORGE etc Hope it helps Regardshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/6/qgww/Post.htm#700514Fri, 24 Apr 2009 03:07:31 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:700514Anonymous8http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/6/qgww/Post.htm#700514http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-700514.xmlMs. (pronounced mizz) is the appropriate address in a business letter to a woman who's marital status is unknown. It is considered marital status neutral.http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/6/qgww/Post.htm#699977Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:56:57 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:699977Anonymous9http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/6/qgww/Post.htm#699977http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-699977.xmlTY! You just saved my education!http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/6/qgww/Post.htm#699446Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:06:37 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:699446Anonymous10http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/6/qgww/Post.htm#699446http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-699446.xmlThanks!http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/6/qgww/Post.htm#697177Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:33:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:697177Anonymous11http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/6/qgww/Post.htm#697177http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-697177.xmlUse Ms. It's more commonly used professionally. I myself prefer to be addressed as Mrs., but that is simply because that's what I put on my e-mail signature.http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/6/qgww/Post.htm#694227Sat, 04 Apr 2009 07:53:26 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:694227Anonymous12http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/6/qgww/Post.htm#694227http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-694227.xmlthak you very much.http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/5/qgww/Post.htm#688821Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:57:18 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:688821rafaelinrio13http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/5/qgww/Post.htm#688821http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-688821.xmlWhat's the big deal about it all? It's so simple, no need for any further discussion. With my neighboors, teachers at school and women I know who are married I've always used Mrs. As for women I don't know I always stick to Ms. and have never had a problem. I don't think it sounds impolite. Young girls I just call by the first name. As for Miss...I don't use it that much. I remember using it a few times in school because I had some single teachers. Concluding, I think titles are a part of an old society. I don't think that calling a person by his/her first name shows disrespect at all. My mother for instance prefers to be called by her first name and all of my friends do so. Besides, I also call many of my...http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/5/qgww/Post.htm#688812Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:35:58 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:688812Mister Micawber14http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/5/qgww/Post.htm#688812http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-688812.xml. I am sorry that you find it 'insulting', as it is not intended to be so. 'Ms' has appeared as a response to the demands of many more women who do prefer that designation. ' Ms ' no longer holds the connotations that you seem to wish to harbour yourself. However, if you require ' Miss ' (until hallowed ' Mrs ' becomes your fortune), then you will have to pursue the course that preservers of the title ' Esq. ' do-- use it constantly in all your correspondence. Alert businesses will take note. Beyond that, how would you suggest that businesses find out which title is preferred? Would you like them to phone or email you and ask if you are single or married? .http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/5/qgww/Post.htm#688804Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:06:24 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:688804Anonymous15http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/5/qgww/Post.htm#688804http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-688804.xmlPersonally, as a 'Miss' I find 'Ms' quite insulting.  - When information comes from a business, it makes it look like they haven't bothered to find out which is preferred. Not being able to choose 'Miss' on forms is annoying, when you can choose between Mrs or Ms - I'm not a divorced / feminist / other commotations that   'Ms' has; and I'm not yet married.  Once I am married, then Mrs will be fine, as it shows that I am part of the one 'entity' that is marriage.http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/5/qgww/Post.htm#680927Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:06:12 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:680927Anonymous16http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/5/qgww/Post.htm#680927http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-680927.xmlI never thought of all this addressing "Miss, Mrs, and Ms" in so much depth, until I got married. It's true. Why should it matter if we are married or not? Men do not have to worry about this aspect with "Mr." I used to feel awkward about which to write in emails to clients, but now I only use Ms. because it really shouldn't matter. Right? :Phttp://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/5/qgww/Post.htm#654616Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:55:46 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:654616Anonymous17http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/5/qgww/Post.htm#654616http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-654616.xmlI wanted to thank you for this awesome and informative thread. It was just what I needed!http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/5/qgww/Post.htm#642354Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:11:01 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:642354Grammar Geek18http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/5/qgww/Post.htm#642354http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-642354.xml. The use of style Ms is an informal and spoken way of addressing one who prefers not to be called Mrs. or Miss. In formal correspondence and anything written however, the only two forms that are correct are Mrs. For married women and Miss for unmarried women. For those who feel uncomfortable with style Miss. Madam is the spoken upon greeting and Ma’am subsequently. How ever please note that the use of Ms. Is not to be used in formal correspondence be it spoken or written. No, no and no. I preserve this post as a warning of how wrong some answers on grammar forums (or anywhere on the internet) can be. Students beware; know the reputability of your sources. . I just want to add my voice to how WRONG this information is!http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/5/qgww/Post.htm#641932Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:11:01 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:641932Mister Micawber19http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/5/qgww/Post.htm#641932http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-641932.xml. The use of style Ms is an informal and spoken way of addressing one who prefers not to be called Mrs. or Miss. In formal correspondence and anything written however, the only two forms that are correct are Mrs. For married women and Miss for unmarried women. For those who feel uncomfortable with style Miss. Madam is the spoken upon greeting and Ma’am subsequently. How ever please note that the use of Ms. Is not to be used in formal correspondence be it spoken or written. No, no and no. I preserve this post as a warning of how wrong some answers on grammar forums (or anywhere on the internet) can be. Students beware; know the reputability of your sources. .http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/5/qgww/Post.htm#641739Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:11:01 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:641739Anonymous20http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/5/qgww/Post.htm#641739http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-641739.xmlThe use of style Ms is an informal and spoken way of addressing one who prefers not to be called Mrs. or Miss. In formal correspondence and anything written however, the only two forms that are correct are Mrs. For married women and Miss for unmarried women. For those who feel uncomfortable with style Miss. Madam is the spoken upon greeting and Ma’am subsequently. How ever please note that the use of Ms. Is not to be used in formal correspondence be it spoken or written.http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/5/qgww/Post.htm#590675Fri, 22 May 2009 23:11:01 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:590675Clive21http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/5/qgww/Post.htm#590675http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-590675.xmlHi, Yes, it's easy to misspell some wors, isn't it? Clivehttp://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/4/qgww/Post.htm#589397Fri, 22 May 2009 23:11:01 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:589397Anonymous22http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/4/qgww/Post.htm#589397http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-589397.xmlThis is exactly what I needed explained THANK YOU.http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/4/qgww/Post.htm#574305Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:11:01 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:574305Anonymous23http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/4/qgww/Post.htm#574305http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-574305.xmlgood question dutch girl i'm an ignorant american and didn't remember they were pronounced differently. again good thinking and thanks to the author of the first replyhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/4/qgww/Post.htm#573210Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:11:01 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:573210Anonymous24http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/4/qgww/Post.htm#573210http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-573210.xmlIn addition to the other reply, which was correct, Ms can be used for a woman who has been divorced. Besides that, I agree with the other reply. Hope this is useful!http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/4/qgww/Post.htm#572425Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:11:01 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:572425Anonymous25http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/4/qgww/Post.htm#572425http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-572425.xmlDamn, I've already used Mrs. while writing to a woman, whose marital status is not known. I hope she is married:)))http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/4/qgww/Post.htm#558398Fri, 22 May 2009 23:11:01 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:558398Doll26http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/4/qgww/Post.htm#558398http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-558398.xmlHello Anon. Please read former pages, you will find the related information.http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/4/qgww/Post.htm#558396Fri, 22 May 2009 23:11:01 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:558396Anonymous27http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/4/qgww/Post.htm#558396http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-558396.xmlIf you are divorced, which should you Ms, Mrs, or Miss? Thanks,http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/4/qgww/Post.htm#554527Fri, 22 May 2009 23:11:01 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:554527Clive28http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/4/qgww/Post.htm#554527http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-554527.xmlHi, Since there seems to be a lot of misinformation here, let me put in my two cents. I'm afraid that some of your comments here are not correct. Don't discount the comments earlier in the thread. Here are just a few quick and brief comments. The general consensus in the American business world in my experience, and according to my Honors English instructor, seems to be that Ms. is pronounced "Miss" Definitely not. It's pronounced with the Z sound, ie Mizzzz. and should be used as the generic reference to any female whenever her marital status is not know, and also if it IS known that she is NOT married. Also it does not matter if she is divorced, she is still a "Miss/Ms.", as it is impolite to title her...http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/4/qgww/Post.htm#554524Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:11:01 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:554524Anonymous29http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/4/qgww/Post.htm#554524http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-554524.xmlSince there seems to be a lot of misinformation here, let me put in my two cents. The general consensus in the American business world in my experience, and according to my Honors English instructor, seems to be that Ms. is pronounced "Miss" and should be used as the generic reference to any female whenever her marital status is not know, and also if it IS known that she is NOT married. Also it does not matter if she is divorced, she is still a "Miss/Ms.", as it is impolite to title her by the fact that she is divorced. The only time when one can't be certain about the correct title is when the woman is widowed, in which case it depends upon her preference. Some widowed women like to go back to being called a...http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/4/qgww/Post.htm#546206Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:11:01 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:546206Anonymous30http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/4/qgww/Post.htm#546206http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-546206.xmlGlad to see I am not the only one to be confused about what to write when you don't know the marital status or age of a women. Ms. seems to be the way to go if in doubt. Thankshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/3/qgww/Post.htm#511625Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:11:01 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:511625Clive31http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/3/qgww/Post.htm#511625http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-511625.xmlHi, There are really no "rules" for such matters. Today, women have a great deal of freedom about these choices. Bets wishes, Clivehttp://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/3/qgww/Post.htm#511572Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:11:01 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:511572Anonymous32http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/3/qgww/Post.htm#511572http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-511572.xmlUse Mrs. for widowed woman. A divorced woman can use Miss or Ms (being unmarried again).http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/3/qgww/Post.htm#505090Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:11:01 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:505090Anonymous33http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/3/qgww/Post.htm#505090http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-505090.xmlMs (has z sound) Miss has the s sound :)http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/3/qgww/Post.htm#476036Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:11:01 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:476036Anonymous34http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/3/qgww/Post.htm#476036http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-476036.xmla lot is two words...not one. Another very common mistake.http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/3/qgww/Post.htm#462851Fri, 22 May 2009 23:11:02 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:462851Clive35http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/3/qgww/Post.htm#462851http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-462851.xmlHi, 'Ma'am is something that should never be written. It's just a spoken form. In writing, you would use the full form 'madam'. Today, that would normally be seen as very formal and quite old-fashioned. The term just survives in the standard greeting, 'Dear sir or madam'. Best wishes, Clivehttp://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/3/qgww/Post.htm#462794Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:11:02 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:462794Anonymous36http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/3/qgww/Post.htm#462794http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-462794.xmli know everyone is saying ms. but sometimes ma'am is ok depending on how you are writing... its neutral as far as i know... its just a contraction of madaam.... i guess ma'am is more respectful.. so again.. it depends on what ur going 4http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/3/qgww/Post.htm#454688Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:11:02 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:454688Grammar Geek37http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/3/qgww/Post.htm#454688http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-454688.xmlMy dear Anon, many married women use "Ms." professionally. On the other hand, some unmarried women are just fine with using "Miss" even if they are in their 20s or 30s. Lastly, not everyone who is married wears a ring. Not everyone who wears a ring is married. I will not beat around the bush: Your advice is not very sound.http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/3/qgww/Post.htm#454652Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:11:02 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:454652Anonymous38http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/3/qgww/Post.htm#454652http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-454652.xmlMiss is used to denote a younger girl, say under 16. Mrs is for married women and Ms is for single women. Don't beat around the bush. If there is no ring on her finger use Ms because she is most likely NOT married.http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/3/qgww/Post.htm#416966Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:11:02 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:416966Grammar Geek39http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/3/qgww/Post.htm#416966http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-416966.xmlClive, I'm so glad you asked that!http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/2/qgww/Post.htm#416953Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:11:02 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:416953Clive40http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/2/qgww/Post.htm#416953http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-416953.xmlHi, any divorced woman would want to be called "mrs." Please explain briefly why you have this opinion. Clivehttp://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/2/qgww/Post.htm#416935Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:11:02 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:416935Anonymous41http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/2/qgww/Post.htm#416935http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-416935.xmlany divorced woman would want to be called "mrs." and a widower is a man that has no wife due to death, so the only thing u could call a man is mr..http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/2/qgww/Post.htm#400140Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:11:02 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:400140Anonymous42http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/2/qgww/Post.htm#400140http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-400140.xmlI am probably giving my age, but so what! In the 1960s there was a move for women to use the title of "Ms." pronounced "mz." It is based on the fact that "Mr." does not tell whether or not a man is married. However, the titles of "Mrs." and "Miss" do tell whether or not a woman is married. But why should women have to let that be known? Afterall, men do not! Let's show equality in this idea of using titles! Therefore, to be equal and politically correct, we should all use Ms. for women. And for another note: Prior to the correct title of "Ms." I was always taught in school that if a woman is married and her husband is living, she would use his name. Example: Mrs. John Smith. If he was deceased or if she was divorced, then she could...http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/2/qgww/Post.htm#395380Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:11:02 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:395380Anonymous43http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/2/qgww/Post.htm#395380http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-395380.xmlhi I'm katty fROm peru and you really helped me... GOD BLESS YOUhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/2/qgww/Post.htm#381530Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:11:02 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:381530Anonymous44http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/2/qgww/Post.htm#381530http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-381530.xmlHey guys that really helps (Ms), to know that most of you guys think it just a neautral title, and anyone should use if they feel like, I like to use the title Ms, I think it is unique, I didn't know the meaning, I just got hooked on it!! To me it is more like to remain anonimous. From: Anonymoushttp://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/2/qgww/Post.htm#331457Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:11:02 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:331457Grammar Geek45http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/2/qgww/Post.htm#331457http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-331457.xmlDoes anyone still use "Master" for boys? If you used it in the U.S., no one would know what to make of it. Why can't you just use Miss for girls under 16?http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/2/qgww/Post.htm#331422Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:11:02 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:331422Anonymous46http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/2/qgww/Post.htm#331422http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-331422.xmlWhat would you call a girl under 16 tho...? Boys its Master..but..I don't know about girlshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/2/qgww/Post.htm#322883Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:11:02 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:322883Anonymous47http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/2/qgww/Post.htm#322883http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-322883.xmlI've always pronounced Ms as "muzz". Frankly I've never liked Ms because it's a horrible sound, and really hate being wrongly labelled Ms myself. If I didn't know which title someone preferred I think I would forego the title completely and simply write "Dear Forname Surname". Miss Qhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/2/qgww/Post.htm#318878Fri, 22 May 2009 23:11:02 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:318878Anonymous48http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/2/qgww/Post.htm#318878http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-318878.xmlMs. - miz Mrs. -misses Miss- misshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/qgww/post.htm#302401Fri, 22 May 2009 23:11:02 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:302401Anonymous49http://www.englishforums.com/English/MsMrsMiss/qgww/post.htm#302401http://www.englishforums.com/English/comments5-302401.xmljust wanted to thank you. im writing christmas cards at the moment and did not want to offend anyone. you helped me out alot!