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Re: The Relationship between Macbeth and Lady Macbeth

MrPedantic — Tue, 13 May 2008 22:17:19 GMT

Thank you for that, Anon. Though as a speaker of BrE, I'm concerned that the mention of "pants" has generated the automatic tag "contractions".

MrP

Re: The Relationship between Macbeth and Lady Macbeth

Anonymous — Tue, 13 May 2008 15:27:19 GMT

it should also be 'who's got his pants', not whose!

you use 'who's' as a contraction of 'who has' or 'who is',

and you use 'whose' as a possesive form of who ("to whom do these pants belong?" = "whose pants are these?")

BL x

Re: The Relationship between Macbeth and Lady Macbeth

Clive — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 06:03:20 GMT

Hi,

Perhaps you didn't notice that the error about Ireland was made, and corrected, in 2004.

Clive

Re: The Relationship between Macbeth and Lady Macbeth

Anonymous — Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:02:59 GMT

Irish King?! MacBeth was Scottish for a start

Re: The Relationship between Macbeth and Lady Macbeth

Anonymous — Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:01:08 GMT

a band of rebels were attacking scotland and duncan sent his most trusted captains macbeth and banquo to defeat them.

duncan was the kind of scotland

the thane of cawdor behaved treacherously and therefore macbeth was given the title rightfully.

-ashley

email if you have anymore questions.

Re: The Relationship between Macbeth and Lady Macbeth

Anonymous — Mon, 05 Dec 2005 02:10:27 GMT

ok.... but he actually didnt decide to die he didnt know that he is going to die until Macduff told him something that he should have known by that time. Macduff wasnt born like a normal person. So i think if MAcbeth knew that he is going to die i dont think he go out side and fight , he was sure that he is not going to die but after he didnt have any choice but fight.

Good luck

Re: The Relationship between Macbeth and Lady Macbeth

Anonymous — Tue, 15 Nov 2005 02:06:23 GMT

its not that their united in their crimes, theyre not at all actually. They both go crazy yeah, but not cuz they both want him to be king. At first its mostly Lady Macbeth who wants Macbeth to be king, Macbeth is hesitant...after the king is dead Lady macbeth doesn't so much feel that way. she gets freaked out, kills herself, Macbeth doesn't even care that she dies, so really theyre not that great of lovers.

Re: The Relationship between Macbeth and Lady Macbeth

Anonymous — Thu, 22 Sep 2005 02:59:42 GMT

Macbeth was king of Scotland, not Ireland.

Re: The Relationship between Macbeth and Lady Macbeth

Lukas — Tue, 23 Nov 2004 00:13:10 GMT

2.the wife who stands behind their deeds

that sounds better ?

3.pushes onto a murderers path ?

4.Not only to...but also - I'd re-phrased it

5. However, Lady Macbeth could not cope with the situation and the heavy burden of their deed.

is this better ?

6. The psychological effects of their deeds, especially the first one, were too heavy to handle.

7. she has committed ???

@MrPedantic - I will get on this back tomorrow

thank you all for your time

Re: The Relationship between Macbeth and Lady Macbeth

MrPedantic — Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:17:26 GMT

Hello Lukas

a) Look at Iv, where Lady M. talks about M's character. Then look at the scene where M. hears of Lady M's death: 'she should have died hereafter'. How do these two people regard each other?

b) Look at the 'milk' imagery in Iv and Ivii â especially the latter. What does the fact that Lady M. can talk like this to her husband tell you about this curious couple?

MrP

Re: The Relationship between Macbeth and Lady Macbeth

nona the brit — Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:22:06 GMT

It is said that a man wears the pants in the family. This means that the man is the head of the house. However, looking closer at Shakespeareâs play, this image varies during the hole1 play. Macbeth might be the man, but it is his wife which stays behind 2their deeds. Nevertheless, she also cannot bear the heavy burden of responsibility.
Macbethâs great ambition of becoming the new Irish King was not enough to push him into a deathâs 3 path. After encounter with the witches Macbeth had directly dreadful thoughts:

Whose horrid image doth unfix my hair,
And make my seated heart knock at my ribs,
Against the use of nature? Present fears
Are less than horrible imaginings:
My thought, whose murder yet is but fantastical,
Shakes so my single state of man, that function
Is smother'd in surmise; and nothing is
But what is not.

However it is Lady Macbeth ,who shows determination and fearfulness pushing her husband into the path of the crime. Putting his manhood in doubt âWhen you durst do it, then you were a man; / And, to be more than what you were, you would / Be so much more the man.(l.54)â She achieves her goal. Macbeth and his wife become partners in crime. The roles are quite obvious with Lady Macbeth being the mind behind the felony and Macbeth putting her plan into work. Ladyâs Macbeth words gave her husband the courage not only to kill his first victim 4. Now as King of Ireland, Macbeth kept on walking this path of death, drawn by his mistress. Unfortunately the role of the man was not to handle for Lady Macbeth.5 The psychological effects of their deeds, especially the first one, were too strong to handle for her.6 The visions of innocent blood on her hands were too strong to cope with. Finally, uncertain of her own future, she commit 7 suicide, the easiest way to deal with the problems. On the other hand, she knew that the death from her enemies would be much more dreadful, humiliating and painful.

I've gone through the first couple of paragraphs for you. Your second paragraph is rather long. I would break again at the point of 'Unfortunately the role of man...'

1 whole not hole.
2. Not sure about this phrase. the wife who stands? behind their deeds?
3. (not a) death's or a murderers path
4. 'Not only to... but also' or re-phrase this sentence.
5. Unfortunately the role...this sentence does not make sense.
6. Not great phrasing and too many 'too strong'.
7. check the tense.

Re: The Relationship between Macbeth and Lady Macbeth

Lukas — Mon, 22 Nov 2004 18:14:02 GMT

3. It's an analogy witch is used to convine Macbeth of killing Duncan.

in the view of their relationship, it's bit more complicated, at least for me
It might be that the 'babe' is actually a male,

on the other hand all scotish women of higher position did feed their own babys with breast milk, not like the british aristocratic women.

more I cannot think of

now will continue on my essays

does anybody see any punctuation or grammar mistakes ? Word didn't but I don't have so much trust in software anymore

thank you!

Re: The Relationship between Macbeth and Lady Macbeth

MrPedantic — Mon, 22 Nov 2004 07:35:34 GMT

4. I'd be honoured.

5.

It was her madness that draw the line between her and Macbeth.

Good point!

MrP

Re: The Relationship between Macbeth and Lady Macbeth

Lukas — Mon, 22 Nov 2004 01:11:49 GMT

1. Are you sure he was King of Ireland?

Scotland my poor memory and historic knowledge

2. Actually there is a good point there, there is no proof in the play that he direct his army at all

3. Actually I do not understand that part so good, we didn't had chance to talk about it during the tutorial. I dont want to use arguments that I do not fully understand. I will talk about it tomorrow in my class, maybe they can light me up

4. May I use it ?

5. well, it is possible that she was left behind, but not on purpose. It was her madness that draw the line between her and Macbeth. Macbeth just countinued their plan, without looking back.

true partners - I mean more something like : they diserve each other.

thank you for those questions, this is first time somebody ask me questions after reading my essay

now it's time to sleep for me

bye bye!

Re: The Relationship between Macbeth and Lady Macbeth

MrPedantic — Mon, 22 Nov 2004 00:06:28 GMT

Hello Lukas

1. Are you sure he was King of Ireland?

2. Why do you say that Macbeth was a great general?

3. You're talking about the relationship between Macbeth and his wife. What do you make of Lady Macbeth's speech about plucking her nipple from a baby's gums, in that context?

4. Another possible title:
"Unmannerly breeched in gore: who wears the pants in Macbeth?"

5. Do you think they're true 'partners'? Or is Lady Macbeth gradually left behind?

MrP