This is a non-sequitur argument. That the French word "lingerie" is pronounced in English with the "ay" of "hay," How strange. I would have thought the main oddity about the English pronunciation of lingerie was the

Is that where thet pronounciation of "t" as "d" in some American dialects comes from, pronouncing "water" as "wahdr", for example? More precisely, most Americans seem to merge intervocalic /t/ and /d/. But

I wonder which variety of English CyberCypher/Franke would consider "dumbed-down ... rabbit" or the version in which people say "Welsh rarebit." He wouldn't be able to tell; the pronunciation is identical. Three

Not at all (though that may be the use of ... in "cut" in the most conventionally standard varieties of English. Well, I wasn't being entirely serious. But I'm sure I've read something that implied that the 19th century RP

Isn't the conventional use of (V) just to describe whatever vowelsound occurs in "cut" in the variety of English in question? Not at all (though that may be the use of /V/). The conventional useof (V), at least with respect to ...

I think (V) - as it's conventionally used, not as ... mean the latter here to correspond to IPA "turned a". Isn't the conventional use of (V) just to describe whatever vowel sound occurs in "cut" in the variety of

rewboss infrared: In American English there are fairly significant differences among different accents in how /&/ and /E/ are pronounced. And for many foreign students (Germans certainly) the difference is infinitesimal. In a long-ago thread

I think (V) - as it's conventionally used, not as it's officiallydefined - would probably do you here; if not that, then (V"). I mean the latter here to correspond to IPA "turned a". Isn't the conventional use of (V)

Huh? The Spanish "a" is noticeably different from both the ... some influencing in New York (Largest City in America) too? You are correct, sir, but Mexicans do not dominate their number, unlike the Latino communities in the West and

Since your experience stems from NY, I'm not surprised. In California, the "father" pronunciation is quite common (the Latino influence, you know). Huh? The Spanish "a" is noticeably different from both the AmE