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This is what I posted yesterday to an equal question:
The subjunctive (also called: conjunctive) and the conditional are Modi (=
forms of expressing) of a verb:
The subjunctive expresses irreal situations while the conditional
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To keep up the actual aim of the thread:
Another problem that I had while learning English was the backshift of tenses in Indirect Speech.
While in German you would always use the subjunctive when you want to express something in Indirect
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By grammar books say that modals don't follow the backshifting rule in reported speech, and I notice this rule has ... would (not 'would have') tell me). But what about relative clauses? Specifically which tenses are correct in the
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john lawler
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That was a very difficult question, I looked it up and I also needed some time
to think about it... *hehe*
The subjunctive (also called: conjunctive) and the conditional are Modi (=
forms of expressing) of a verb:
The subjunctive expresses
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1) If Murphy were to leave earlier in the morning, traffic on the 405 freeway would not be so heavy and his commute would be much more pleasant. Correct as it stands, provided that the sentence is being spoken in (or at least about) southern
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I have two questions;
What is the difference between a conditional and a subjunctive?
Can a conditional and a subjunctive be used in the same sentence?
Thanks for your help.
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From www.m-w.com:
Main Entry: should
Pronunciation: sh&d, 'shud
Etymology: Middle English sholde, from Old English sceolde owed, was obliged to, ought to
Date: before 12th century
past ofSHALL
1 -- used in auxiliary function to express
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as if i were... as mentioned in another post, this is the final remnant of the past subjunctive in english. common vernacular usage of "as if i was" shows that this last vestige might also be on its way out of the english language...
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good answer pemmican regarding the conditionals... the same can be said for the all but (sadly) extinct subjunctive in english (which is present tense, except for "were", the past subjunctive of "to be")
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Gramatically speaking, I don't think any of the three is. I would say:
"We treat your vacation like it were our own."
I know it sounds weird, but it has something to do with the subjunctive form of the verb is : were .
If you want it to
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