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boron elgar
6 yr 2 days ago
Vowels, Pronunciation, Countries, United Kingdom, Great Britain, Friendships, United States, Speaking, Chat, Speeches, Languages, Speaking English
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According to Google the British pronunciation is "quick-sote"whereas the US ... or"donkey-shot". How do you experts here handle this one ? I'd say no middle ground either "QUICK-sote" or the original(well,
alt.usage.english
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jonathan jordan
6 yr 13 days ago
Vowels, Spelling, Dialects, Pronunciation, British People, Countries, United Kingdom, Great Britain, United States, Speaking, Writing, Speeches, Languages
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It's an elliptical definition. I read Ross's line as meaning "(the vowel contained in) cot, bother...". That's still meaningless. There is no vowel that is contained in every rendition of "cot". The vowels that may
alt.usage.english
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woody wordpecker
6 yr 39 days ago
Vowels, Pronunciation, Difference Between, British English, Countries, United Kingdom, Great Britain, United States, Speaking, Speeches, Languages
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( . . . ) The RP1 reading "Arthur" starts out with stating his name. It sounds like he may be saying "Dudley Knight". See? The sound quality is so poor you couldn't even hear him saying "translated by Dudley
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To what extent is this influenced by the initial consonants ... for these vowels, both issuing from the same lip shape. Having looked in a mirror, I agree with Matti: whatever internal movement of the tongue produces the two distinct RP ... of
alt.usage.english
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woody wordpecker
6 yr 39 days ago
Vowels, Numbers, Universities, Pronunciation, Consonants, Countries, United Kingdom, Great Britain, Speaking, Writing, Students, Speeches, Schools
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In Received Pronunciation, "bother" is (bA.D@), "father" is (fA:D@). That ... "bother" is rounded, while the one in "father" is not. And the one in "bother" is noticeably shorter. Depends upon what
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( . . . ) Everyone on my father's side of the family has an ... might sound like, and I'm familiar with the Boston version. You don't have to imagine. You can listen to the difference in the speech of an Englishman. In Received
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( . . . ) Everyone on my father's side of the family has an authentic New York accent of some sort or other, and ... bother/father distinction. I can't even imagine what such a distinction might sound like, and I'm familiar with the
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( . . . ) My ears can't detect any difference between the vowels of Bob's "call" and "Bob". I don't (yet) have formant-analysis software on my computer, so without knowing whether the vowels actually are objectively
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