(snip) I see it as a pronunciation spelling for those who pronounce the word as (drO:) and that includes rhotic AmE speakers in my experience (it may be a Midland phenomenon). MWCD11 includes (drO) as a dialectal pronunciation of

I have no luck in vowel discussions. All I can ... put in such a word. I'd call theirs a diphthong, Chances are yours is also a diphthong, though it may be a different diphthong from that which most BrE speakers ... seems to me to be

I've followed this thread with some amazement at how 'thing' ... the 'thing' in 'another thing coming' supposed to represent? Retribution? This issue was pretty much beaten to a pulp in AUE a couple of years back. So

Is that where thet pronounciation of "t" as "d" in some American dialects comes from, pronouncing "water" as "wahdr", for example? More precisely, most Americans seem to merge intervocalic /t/ and /d/. But

Not at all (though that may be the use of ... in "cut" in the most conventionally standard varieties of English. Well, I wasn't being entirely serious. But I'm sure I've read something that implied that the 19th century RP

Isn't the conventional use of (V) just to describe whatever vowelsound occurs in "cut" in the variety of English in question? Not at all (though that may be the use of /V/). The conventional useof (V), at least with respect to ...

rewboss infrared: In American English there are fairly significant differences among different accents in how /&/ and /E/ are pronounced. And for many foreign students (Germans certainly) the difference is infinitesimal. In a long-ago thread

Since your experience stems from NY, I'm not surprised. In California, the "father" pronunciation is quite common (the Latino influence, you know). Maybe so, but query whether my PNYPS /&/ ('cat') is not closer to

MW and AHD give both pronunciations ('father' and 'cat'). MW ... that in my experience the 'father' pronunciation is not common. Since your experience stems from NY, I'm not surprised. In California, the

Interesting examples. Those are one (sic) syllable words for me. . . . Two syllables for me; no diphthong. But they all have about the same quantity! so to say that has oneof something but has two ... to say that Miss Moore's syllable-count