True. However, when you tell someone else how to pronounce a word, You switched the discussion to a different condition. My "when people use phonemic notation to tell someone else how they pronounce a word" is equivalent to "when A

That's okay if that's the sort of thing we want ... reader knows somehow what sounds are included in the phoneme. True. However, when you tell someone else how to pronounce a word, You switched the discussion to a different condition. My

of the Eh? I didn't want to say that some people are CIC. The two words in theexample could have the same vowel sound, regardless of spelling. The problem here is that you said "in English", as though it is a property of the language

What logic? Both 'pavilion' and 'canceled' follow normal spelling rules; a double L would be unnecessary in the first case, and wrong in the second. What spelling rules? In fact, why is it "spelling" why isn't this

What is the "aw vowel"? We do have an "aw" ... some people, and their "aw" would be more like "or." Most people from the US that I have heard say sah, pah, and lah, precicely because they lack the

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I find it interesting that even Evan Kirshenbaum, the father ... difference, but he chooses to leave it as it is. I don't think this is a good thing, at least for purposes of discussions of English accents (that's "English not ...

( . . . ) I find that I can switch between "bother-sans-b" and "father-sans-f" without moving my lips in the slightest, a bit like a vent would do, perhaps. This shows that you don't speak the English accent that has been

http://alt-usage-english.org/AUE gallery/mike barnes.html What does everybody think? This particular everybody thinks it's spot-on! This one, too. Looking at your rendition of your name got me wondering about something, though. You're