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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Apostrophes tag:Grammar' matching tags 'Apostrophes' and 'Grammar'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aApostrophes+tag%3aGrammar&amp;tag=Apostrophes,Grammar&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Apostrophes tag:Grammar' matching tags 'Apostrophes' and 'Grammar'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3161.22795)</generator><item><title>Re: Memos show Clinton Turmoil Part 1</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MemosShowClintonTurmoilPart/gkqnw/post.htm#555109</link><pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:47:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:555109</guid><dc:creator>Feebs11</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;Question: I would have written &amp;#39;&amp;#39;Clinton&amp;#39;s turmoil&amp;#39;&amp;#39;. Why didn&amp;#39;t the author use apostrophe? &lt;font color="#000000"&gt;It is a headline - they do not use standard grammar.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;Question: Why is semicolon used instead of comma to separate the email addresses above?&amp;nbsp; &lt;font color="#000000"&gt;Addresses are better separated by semicolons - it establishes that they are different.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:rgb(255, 0, 0);"&gt;Question: Clinton didn&amp;#39;t embrace Penn&amp;#39;s approach because she did not consider it seriously. Therefore, what campaign aides were saying is redundant. &lt;font color="#000000"&gt;They are the people to whom the journalists talked in order to find out what is happening.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re:   Proper Use of Apostrophes (Dos and Don'ts about Do's and Don't's)</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ProperApostrophesDontsAboutDonts/2/gkckk/Post.htm#551014</link><pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 05:12:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:551014</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>Evening!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&amp;#39;m an author and dislike the everchanging rules of grammar as much as anyone else does.&amp;nbsp; Grammar was invented to&amp;nbsp;facilitate communication, especially written communication when voice inflection cannot be heard.&amp;nbsp; However, I write serious novels, as&amp;nbsp;opposed to trashy stories,&amp;nbsp;and my readers don&amp;#39;t care about grammar rules (for the most part) when abiding by them makes reading difficult or awkward.&amp;nbsp; The last thing I want to do in the middle of an engaging paragraph is jolt my readers from the mood I&amp;#39;ve (hopefully) lured them into just to satisfy some arbitrary grammar rule.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wouldn&amp;#39;t consider writing do&amp;#39;s and don&amp;#39;t&amp;#39;s or dos and don&amp;#39;ts.&amp;nbsp; I write do&amp;#39;s and don&amp;#39;ts and that&amp;#39;s that, so to speak.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;I&amp;#39;ve never had a single complaint about my use of grammar, let alone a book&amp;nbsp; returned&amp;nbsp;yet.&amp;nbsp; I have, on the other hand, had requests to refrain &lt;br /&gt;from using &amp;#39;Words I have to look up,&amp;#39; such as jejune, abstruse, evanescent, recondite, and so on.&amp;nbsp; I guess education ain&amp;#39;t what it used to be, LOL!&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Consistency is mandatory in whatever one chooses to write and that&amp;#39;s tough when one is writing a seven-novel saga!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Blessings to you all - J.&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re:  Proper Use of Apostrophes (Dos and Don'ts about Do's and Don't's)</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ProperApostrophesDontsAboutDonts/gjbdb/post.htm#545684</link><pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:32:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:545684</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>According to the Gregg Reference Manual: &amp;quot;To form the possessive of a singular noun that ends in an s sound, be guided by the way you pronounce the word. If a new syllable is formed in the pronunciation of the possessive, add an apostrophe plus s.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Ex: your boss&amp;#39;s approval (you pronounce it as bosses); therefore, add the apostrophe.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Also according to the Gregg Reference Manual: &amp;quot;However, if the addition of the extra syllable would make a word ending in s hard to pronounce, use the apostrophe only.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Ex: Los Angeles&amp;#39; freeways (try saying Los Angeleses). Difficult to do; therefore, just use the apostrophe.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Best grammar books are The Gregg Reference Manual and the Simon &amp;amp; Schuster Handbook for Writers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have no problem with boss&amp;#39; approval. At least this is a rule where one can understand why people get it wrong.&amp;nbsp;There are&amp;nbsp;grammar errors that bother me more; I&amp;nbsp;cannot understand why&amp;nbsp;people misuse apostrophes.</description></item><item><title>the possessive of 'her'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ThePossessiveOfHer/gwzbp/post.htm</link><pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:35:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:541907</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>Hello, &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In&amp;nbsp; the sentence, &amp;quot;It had been Thomas&amp;#39;s and her&amp;#39;s secret hiding place when they were children.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; Is the apostrophe after &amp;#39;her&amp;#39; correct?&amp;nbsp; It seems that it should be, but my MS Word Grammar check does not recognize it.&amp;nbsp; Thank you for your great service.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: "4 week notice period" or "4 weeks notice period"</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/WeekNoticePeriodWeeksNoticePeriod/ghplw/post.htm#540047</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:12:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:540047</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>Erm..... this &amp;quot;grammar geek&amp;quot; objects to your misplaced apostrophe.&amp;nbsp; Four weeks&amp;#39; notice - with the apostrophe after the &amp;#39;s&amp;#39;.&amp;nbsp; Thanks.</description></item><item><title>Re: we wait until the last moment before boarding</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/WaitUntilLastMomentBoarding/gvqvx/post.htm#525484</link><pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:06:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:525484</guid><dc:creator>optilang</dc:creator><description>&amp;nbsp;If you do a search on google you will find it with and without the apostrophe. A grammar expert (which I&amp;#39;m not) will tell us if it is required. I must admit, I don&amp;#39;t think that before today I&amp;#39;d ever written the phrase, but have said it many many times - in fact I&amp;#39;m still waiting for my few minutes&amp;#39; peace!&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src="http://www.englishforums.com/emoticons/emotion-20.gif" alt="Sleep" title="Sleep" /&gt; </description></item><item><title>Re: Help with apostrophe's</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/HelpWithApostrophes/gcpvg/post.htm#515361</link><pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 22:50:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:515361</guid><dc:creator>Feebs11</dc:creator><description>&amp;nbsp;See here:&amp;nbsp; http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/grammar/g_apost.html&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: Apostrophe Grammar Question</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ApostropheGrammarQuestion/gbjpb/post.htm#508896</link><pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 09:28:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:508896</guid><dc:creator>Takoyaki-English</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hello.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Neither of them would be correct.&lt;br /&gt;I would write:&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;The author fully develops the character of Kate Miller, the protagonist.&amp;quot; &lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Apostrophe Grammar Question</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ApostropheGrammarQuestion/gbjxp/post.htm</link><pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 09:08:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:508893</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>&amp;nbsp;I had a question about apostrophes in conjunction with nonrestrictive modifying elements.&amp;nbsp; I am writing an essay and would like to know if you need to put an apostrophe twice, as in:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;The author fully develops Kate Miller&amp;#39;s, the protagonist&amp;#39;s, character.&amp;quot; -or- is it &amp;quot;The author fully develops Kate Miller&amp;#39;s, the protagonist, character&amp;quot;?&amp;nbsp; I would like to think the first choice with 2 apostrophes is correct.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Could someone help me with this?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: Plural of s = s'es?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PluralOfSSes/zqwxn/post.htm#498776</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:52:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:498776</guid><dc:creator>Pter</dc:creator><description>Sorry Yoong Liat, I think I didn&amp;#39;t made it clear.&amp;nbsp; The abbreviation of PS was made up arbitrarily.&amp;nbsp; I didn&amp;#39;t mean postscript.&amp;nbsp; I could have used anything like BS, CS, DS, etc. in my question.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Regarding the apostrophe for abbreviations, let me quote some of the references I&amp;#39;ve read:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Columbia Guide to Standard American English&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.bartleby.com/68/50/4650.html&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#0000ff;"&gt;usually add &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#0000ff;"&gt;-s: two Xs, Ph.D.s, MIAs, 1990s, the â20s.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#0000ff;"&gt; Use an apostrophe only when you need it to prevent confusion: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#0000ff;"&gt;Mississippi has four&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#0000ff;"&gt; i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#0000ff;"&gt;âs. He got Aâs in both courses.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Economist Style Guide&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.economist.com/research/styleGuide/index.cfm?page=673905&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#0000ff;"&gt;Thus &lt;strong&gt;IOUs&lt;/strong&gt;, &lt;strong&gt;MPs&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;#39; salaries, &lt;strong&gt;SDRs&lt;/strong&gt;, etc.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Times Online Style Guide&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/tools_and_services/specials/style_guide/article986718.ece&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#0000ff;"&gt;An apostrophe should be used to indicate the plural of single letters - p&amp;#39;s and q&amp;#39;s.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(Note that it doesn&amp;#39;t say an apostrophe should be used for plurals of abbreviations.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Guide to Grammar and Style by Jack Lynch&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~jlynch/Writing/a.html&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#0000ff;"&gt;Apostrophes are sometimes used to make acronyms or other abbreviations plural (another matter of a local house style). My preference: don&amp;#39;t use apostrophes to make abbreviations plural â not &amp;quot;They took their SAT&amp;#39;s,&amp;quot; but &amp;quot;They took their SATs.&amp;quot; The only exception is when having no apostrophe might be confusing: &amp;quot;Two As&amp;quot; is ambiguous (it might be read as the word as); make it &amp;quot;Two A&amp;#39;s.&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Back to my original question.&amp;nbsp; What I would like to ask is whether I should use &amp;quot;s&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;es&amp;quot;, i.e. the choice of &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1a. There are two s&amp;#39;es in the sentence.&lt;br /&gt;1b. There are two PSes in the meeting. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;OR&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2a. There are two s&amp;#39;s in the sentence.&lt;br /&gt; 2b. There are two PSs in the meeting. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;In addition, how should they be pronounced?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PS I have never seen P.SS. or p.ss.&amp;nbsp; My copy of Random House Webster&amp;#39;s Unabridged Dictionary does not have such an entry nor does any other dictionary I checked.</description></item></channel></rss>