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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Auxiliaries tag:Past tenses' matching tags 'Auxiliaries' and 'Past tenses'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aAuxiliaries+tag%3aPast+tenses</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Auxiliaries tag:Past tenses' matching tags 'Auxiliaries' and 'Past tenses'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3256.36449)</generator><item><title>Re: Simple, short phrase question.</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/SimpleShortPhraseQuestion/3/hdvdh/Post.htm#600600</link><pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:37:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:600600</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Eddie88&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I just know that if I see TO followed by a verb that it is an infinitive.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; Really?&amp;nbsp; Where did you get that idea?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;The men I spoke &lt;u&gt;to have&lt;/u&gt; a lot of money.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; is a verb.&amp;nbsp; So you think &lt;i&gt;to have&lt;/i&gt; is an infinitive in this sentence?&amp;nbsp; That&amp;#39;s not correct.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;____&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;Is it only the ING form that is non-finite?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; No.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The non-finite forms of a verb are its present participle, past participle, gerund, and infinitives.&amp;nbsp; Both the present participle and the gerund are &lt;i&gt;-ing&lt;/i&gt; forms, but not the others.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Eddie88&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I thought that worked is a participle as you said that I was correct.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; There are three principal parts for every verb:&amp;nbsp; infinitive, past, past participle.&amp;nbsp; Review this if you need to.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;(to) know, knew, known&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;(to) see, saw, seen&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The past and the past participle are frequently the same.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;(to) work, worked, worked&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;(to) jump, jumped, jumped&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So sometimes you can&amp;#39;t tell whether an isolated word is the second form (past) or the third (past participle).&amp;nbsp;  When you ask if &lt;i&gt;worked&lt;/i&gt; is a participle, I say yes, because &lt;i&gt;worked&lt;/i&gt; is the past participle of the verb &lt;i&gt;to work&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp; If you ask if &lt;i&gt;worked&lt;/i&gt; is a past tense, I say yes, because &lt;i&gt;worked&lt;/i&gt; is the past of the verb &lt;i&gt;to work&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp; As a past participle, it is a non-finite verb form.&amp;nbsp; As a past tense, it is a finite verb form. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In responding to that question I was saying that adding an auxiliary verb in front of another verb doesn&amp;#39;t do anything of any significance.&amp;nbsp; It certainly doesn&amp;#39;t make a sentence complete.&amp;nbsp; It seemed to me that you were claiming that adding an auxiliary could make a sentence complete.&amp;nbsp; Of course if you have a group of words that is already a complete sentence except for a missing auxiliary, then obviously adding the proper auxiliary will complete the sentence.&amp;nbsp; &lt;img src="http://www.englishforums.com/emoticons/emotion-1.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;*The children going on a picnic tomorrow.&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; [incomplete sentence]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;The children &lt;u&gt;are&lt;/u&gt; going on a picnic tomorrow.&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp; [complete sentence]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But there&amp;#39;s nothing here but a game of finding a missing word -- nothing of any grammatical significance.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;___&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And if the verb is one of those that has the same form for both the past and the past participle, then you might have a case where the sentences -- the one without the auxiliary and the one with the auxiliary -- are both complete.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;I worked three hours today.&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp; [complete sentence]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;I &lt;u&gt;have&lt;/u&gt; worked three hours today.&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp; [complete sentence]&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Here the addition of an auxiliary does nothing to &amp;quot;complete the sentence&amp;quot; because it was already complete.&amp;nbsp; &lt;img src="http://www.englishforums.com/emoticons/emotion-1.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CJ&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: Simple, short phrase question.</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/SimpleShortPhraseQuestion/2/hddbc/Post.htm#600272</link><pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:08:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:600272</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Eddie88&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Are verbals the only types of verbs that are not able to be the main verbs in a sentence, UNLESS there is an auxillary verb which can then make it the main verb?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; I don&amp;#39;t often use the term &amp;quot;verbal&amp;quot;.&amp;nbsp; It means &amp;quot;a non-finite form of a verb&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The presence of an auxiliary has nothing to do with it.&amp;nbsp; You can have auxiliaries co-occurring with both finite forms and with non-finite forms.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;having seen it&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;having&lt;/i&gt; is an auxiliary.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;having seen&lt;/i&gt; is a non-finite verb form. (i.e., a verbal)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;___&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;did not see it&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; is an auxiliary.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;did see&lt;/i&gt; is a finite verb form (past tense)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;___&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Only the finite forms (with or without auxiliaries) can be main verbs of a clause (either an independent or a dependent clause).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Non-finite forms (with or without auxiliaries) can never be main verbs of a clause.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CJ&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: It did "used" or "use"</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ItDidUsedOrUse/hcwjx/post.htm#596952</link><pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:21:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:596952</guid><dc:creator>Cool Breeze</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Anonymous&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;Or are both of them wrong? &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Many dictionaries* consider both of them right. The underlying idea is that even though &lt;em&gt;used&lt;/em&gt; with its &lt;em&gt;ed&lt;/em&gt; ending looks like an ordinary past tense verb, usage has not settled and two forms are acceptable with the auxiliary &lt;em&gt;do:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;He didn&amp;#39;t use/used to be rich.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And, since it can be considered an auxiliary, also: &lt;em&gt;He used not to be rich.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;CB&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;* One of these is Collins.&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: If - Real condition and unreal condition</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/RealConditionUnrealCondition/hbhzc/post.htm#591670</link><pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:11:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:591670</guid><dc:creator>Thomas Tompion</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;sarah88&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Hello, can someone tell me how to distinguish between real condition and unreal condition? I know that real condition is most likely to be happened, but if&amp;nbsp;we use IF, it&amp;#39;s always&amp;nbsp;an unknown, right?&amp;nbsp; Also, I like to know wheather there is a past tense in If clause, such as &amp;quot; If you meant 2pm your time, then I will be&amp;nbsp;online waiting for you.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;thanks,&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;ESL Student&amp;nbsp; &lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Hello Sarah,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wonder what your native language is, because some languages are like English in this, while others are unlike it.&amp;nbsp; My advice is to remember two basic formulae for the sequence of tenses:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1.&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="COLOR:#7f3f00;"&gt;If he goes, I will see him&lt;/span&gt; - Present&amp;nbsp; -&amp;gt; Future&lt;br /&gt;2.&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="COLOR:#7f3f00;"&gt;If he went, I would see him&lt;/span&gt; - Past -&amp;gt; Conditional&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And remember which tense goes in the if-clause, and which in the main clause: just learn by heart the two sentences, they are simple enough.&amp;nbsp; It&amp;#39;s wrong to put a conditional in the if-clause.&amp;nbsp; If you go one tense back you follow the rules as in 2. but this time apply them to the auxiliary: &lt;span style="COLOR:#7f3f00;"&gt;If he had gone, I would have seen him&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One can also use Present -&amp;gt; Present &lt;span style="COLOR:#7f3f00;"&gt;If he goes, I see him.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp; Students don&amp;#39;t have much problem with that, in my experience.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your last question suggests that you need to polish up on this elementary sequence of tenses, as in 1. &amp;amp; 2, above.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your first question, however, suggests that you&amp;#39;ve studied this rather further and are considering the difference between:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#7f3f00;"&gt;If I were you&lt;/span&gt; (subjunctive) - unreal condition - &lt;span style="COLOR:#7f3f00;"&gt;if I were you, if I were Sultan of Zanzibar, if I were Russian&lt;/span&gt;: you clearly couldn&amp;#39;t be me or Russian, assuming you are not Russian, and it would be very hard for you&amp;nbsp;to become Sultan of Zanzibar, so I suppose that is an unreal condition, too.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#7f3f00;"&gt;If I was in Salisbury&lt;/span&gt; (indicative) - real condition - &lt;span style="COLOR:#7f3f00;"&gt;if I was at my computer, if I was having supper, if I was swimming&lt;/span&gt;: you might sometime be in Salisbury, or at your computer, or swimming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;TT&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Need we say more?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/NeedWeSayMore/gqqmz/post.htm#584567</link><pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:25:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:584567</guid><dc:creator>AlpheccaStars</dc:creator><description>&amp;nbsp;Jackson:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;#1 &amp;quot;do&amp;quot; is a verb. (auxiliary) not an adverb. &amp;quot;need&amp;quot; is the main&amp;nbsp; verb; the object is the infinitive phrase..(&amp;quot;need to&amp;quot; is synonymous with &amp;quot;have to&amp;quot;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;#2 say is the main verb, Need is an auxiliary verb. Like the auxiliaries can or may, it does not necessarily agree with the subject - Need he say more? (not &lt;u&gt;needs&lt;/u&gt;) &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The 2 sentences mean the same.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is from the dictionary &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);text-align:left;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Usage Note&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;: Depending on the sense, the verb&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;behaves sometimes like an auxiliary verb (such as&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;or&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;may&lt;/i&gt;) and sometimes like a main verb (such as&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;want&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;or&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;try&lt;/i&gt;). When used as a main verb,&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;agrees with its subject, takes&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;to&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;before the verb following it, and combines with&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;in questions, negations, and certain other constructions:&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;He needs to go. Does he need to go so soon? He doesn&amp;#39;t need to go.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;When used as an auxiliary verb,&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;does not agree with its subject, does not take&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;to&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;before the verb following it, and does not combine with&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;do:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;He needn&amp;#39;t go. Need he go so soon?&lt;/i&gt;The auxiliary forms of&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;are used primarily in present-tense questions, negations, and conditional clauses. Unlike&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and&lt;i&gt;may,&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;auxiliary&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;has no form for the past tense like&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;could&lt;/i&gt;and&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;might.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: "Break, break, break", by Alfred, Lord Tennyson</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/BreakBreakBreakAlfredLordTennyson/gpllj/post.htm#578196</link><pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 06:05:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:578196</guid><dc:creator>Karim Hamed</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;AlpheccaStars&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The secret to understanding the word &amp;quot;would&amp;quot; is looking at the history of the verb &amp;quot;will&amp;quot; &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:left;"&gt;O.E.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;*willan, wyllan&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;quot;to wish, desire, want&amp;quot; (past tense&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;wolde&lt;/span&gt;),&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I didn&amp;#39;t know of that meaning of &amp;#39;will&amp;#39;. I&amp;#39;ve always used it as an auxiliary verb. Thanks a lot.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Regards.&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Need help over here.</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/NeedHelpOverHere/gzvnp/post.htm#527083</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 02:08:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:527083</guid><dc:creator>Mr Wordy</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;1. Well, &amp;quot;had&amp;quot; is the past tense of the verb &amp;quot;have&amp;quot;, but I think you&amp;#39;re asking specifically about its use as an auxiliary to form&amp;nbsp;the past perfect tense of other verbs:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;I played&lt;/em&gt; -- simple past tense&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;I &lt;strong&gt;have&lt;/strong&gt; played&lt;/em&gt; -- present perfect tense&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;I &lt;strong&gt;had&lt;/strong&gt; played&lt;/em&gt; -- past perfect (or pluperfect) tense&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, even though &amp;quot;have&amp;quot; on its own is present tense, it forms a past tense with other verbs. If you do a Google search for these tense names then you will find tons of information on their uses. See, for example, &lt;a href="http://www.englishpage.com/verbpage/pastperfect.html"&gt;http://www.englishpage.com/verbpage/pastperfect.html&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;(this page describes the past perfect; all the other tenses are linked down the left hand side).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;I have played football yesterday&amp;quot; isn&amp;#39;t right. &amp;quot;have played football&amp;quot; has the general sense of &amp;quot;played football on one or more unspecified occasions in the past&amp;quot;, and it doesn&amp;#39;t go with &amp;quot;yesterday&amp;quot;, which is a specific occasion. Instead you would say &amp;quot;I played football yesterday&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. &amp;quot;Never&amp;quot; can be used with a variety of different tenses, depending on when the thing in question&amp;nbsp;wasn&amp;#39;t/isn&amp;#39;t done or didn&amp;#39;t/doesn&amp;#39;t happen. A couple of examples:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;You&amp;nbsp;never &lt;strong&gt;told&lt;/strong&gt; me that you loved me&lt;/em&gt; -- means that you didn&amp;#39;t tell me&amp;nbsp;in the&amp;nbsp;past, but you might tell me now (or in the future).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;You never &lt;strong&gt;tell&lt;/strong&gt; me that you&amp;nbsp;love me&lt;/em&gt; -- means that you didn&amp;#39;t tell me in the past &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;you don&amp;#39;t tell me now. In other words, the absence of telling continues up to and including the present.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s not possible to use the present tense with &amp;quot;never before&amp;quot;, so &amp;quot;I never &lt;strong&gt;do&lt;/strong&gt; that before&amp;quot; is wrong. It should be &amp;quot;I never &lt;strong&gt;did&lt;/strong&gt; that before&amp;quot; (or &amp;quot;I have never done that before&amp;quot;).&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: What did he say? What was it he said?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Said/zqwjb/post.htm#498679</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:08:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:498679</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>&amp;nbsp;The auxiliary verb carries the tense. &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; shows the past.&amp;nbsp; (Otherwise it would be &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;does&lt;/i&gt;.) You can&amp;#39;t indicate tense twice in the same clause.&amp;nbsp; (&lt;i&gt;*What di&lt;b&gt;d&lt;/b&gt; I sai&lt;b&gt;d&lt;/b&gt;?&lt;/i&gt;)&amp;nbsp; The main verb shows the past tense ONLY when no auxiliary verb is present to do the job!&amp;nbsp; (&lt;i&gt;I sai&lt;b&gt;d&lt;/b&gt; so.&lt;/i&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CJ&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: Can anyone help me to explain why this sentence is incorrect?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/AnyoneExplainSentenceIncorrect/znjhd/post.htm#484197</link><pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:45:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:484197</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I think the best way to explain this is telling your friend that in English you use only one verbal element to indicate the tense. In this sentence the auxiliary &amp;quot;did&amp;quot; &amp;nbsp;is indicating the past tense so you should keep the verb in the infinitive. Otherwise it will be redundant.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;nbsp;hope your friend can understand it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best wishes,&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: Can anyone help me to explain why this sentence is incorrect?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/AnyoneExplainSentenceIncorrect/znjbc/post.htm#484094</link><pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 16:25:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:484094</guid><dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;I would appreciate any help to explain in grammatical terms why the following sentence doesn&amp;#39;t work:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;* &lt;strong&gt;I didn&amp;#39;t talked to Simon on Sunday.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;Is it because a past simple verb&amp;nbsp;cannot follow another past tense?&amp;nbsp; It is obviously incorrect, but I&amp;#39;m not sure how to explain this to my German friend.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;I&amp;#39;m not a qualified teacher, but I live in Germany at the moment and have been trying to help some of my friends with their English. They usually ask &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;for grammatical explanations &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;Your example&amp;nbsp;breaks the rules for how tenses are formed.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;How to form Simple Past tense&amp;nbsp;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;I talked&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;em&gt;Here, the suffix &amp;#39;&lt;strong&gt;-ed&amp;#39;&lt;/strong&gt; denotes the past&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;I did not talk.&amp;nbsp;&lt;em&gt;Here, the auxiliary verb &lt;strong&gt;&amp;#39;did&amp;#39;&lt;/strong&gt; denotes the past, and the main verb must be&amp;nbsp;in&amp;nbsp;base form only.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best wishes, Clive&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>