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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Before and After tag:Numbers' matching tags 'Before and After' and 'Numbers'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aBefore+and+After+tag%3aNumbers&amp;tag=Before+and+After,Numbers&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Before and After tag:Numbers' matching tags 'Before and After' and 'Numbers'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3170.31378)</generator><item><title>Help with essay</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/HelpWithEssay/zmlqp/post.htm</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:33:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:480027</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;Could you please help me with making this more persausive? My teacher says it is more imformative. I just don&amp;#39;t have a clue.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;Heart disease is the number one cause of death among men and women in the United States. Our high fat diet, sedentary lifestyles, stressful environment and various vices like tobacco, alcohol, and many recreational drugs harden the heart and its arteries, this increases the risk of heart disease and early death. We need to get with the program and realize this problem is not going away until we take a stand and say enough is enough. It is time to get our nation eating right and exercising regularly. We should aim for heart healthy goals like eating foods that help lower cholesterol and maintain a healthy weight.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Cholesterol is a type of fat your body needs it for many things, such as making new cells, but too much cholesterol in your blood increases your chances of having a heart attack and stroke. &lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;Cholesterol is a fatty, wax-like substance found in the cells of your body and blood. It comes from your diet and is produced by the body. Total cholesterol in the blood includes various components including HDL- &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;High-density lipoprotein&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:navy;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;(good), LDL- &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;Low-density lipoprotein&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:navy;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;(bad) and triglycerides. Cholesterol has an important role in the overall healthy functioning of the body. The body needs the right level of cholesterol to function properly, but too high levels of cholesterol increase the risk of cardiovascular disease. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;Heart healthy diets are hard for many to stick with but it is important to do so to keep your heart strong and healthy. There are many things you can eat for heart healthy diet things like fish, poultry, and lean meats. Broiled, baked, roast and poached foods. Drink low fat or skim milk low fat cheeses and yogurts. You should eat at least five fruits and vegetables a day. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;Cereals, breads, rice, and pasta made from whole grains (such as &amp;quot;whole-wheat&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;whole-grain&amp;quot; bread and pasta, rye bread, brown rice, and oatmeal). Foods that you should avoid are things like, Organ meat (liver, kidney, brains) Egg yolks, Fats (butter, lard) and oils, Packaged and processed foods. Doing these things will help you get your heart strong and keep it strong.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Exercises that can be done without over exerting yourself &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;can be divided into three basic types. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;Stretching or the slow lengthening of the muscles. Stretching the arms and legs before and after exercising helps prepare the muscles for activity and helps prevent injury and muscle strain. Regular stretching also increases your range of motion and flexibility. Cardiovascular or aerobic is steady physical activity using large muscle groups. This type of exercise strengthens the heart and lungs and improves the body&amp;#39;s ability to use oxygen. Aerobic exercise has the most benefits for your heart. Over time, aerobic exercise can help decrease your heart rate and blood pressure and improve your breathing (since your heart won&amp;#39;t have to work as hard during exercise). Strengthening exercises are repeated muscle contractions (tightening) until the muscle becomes tired. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font&gt;Unless there is a broad cultural and behavioral change among Americans regarding diet and exercise in America, heart disease rates will most likely continue to rise.&lt;br /&gt;Some types of heart disease closely linked to diet and lifestyle choices, are preventable others are due to genetic inheritance, infections or uncontrollable factors. The one thing I want to see happen is for us as Americans change the two out of five average to one in a hundred and work on one in every thousand. We need to take a stand for our on bodies&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font&gt;We are only given one and how we treat it is on us so take a stand to prevent the preventable and make the lifestyle changes need to cure heart disease for everyone. Making changes is a hard thing to do but it can be done with support and strength&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Could you please help me check my essay?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/CouldCheckEssay/2/zmlqz/Post.htm#480017</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:07:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:480017</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Julielai I am trying to make this essay more persausive can you help with this. My Teacher says it is more imformitive and it shouldn&amp;#39;t be. I am not sure what shes asking for.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;Heart disease is the number one cause of death among men and women in the United States. Our high fat diet, sedentary lifestyles, stressful environment and various vices like tobacco, alcohol, and many recreational drugs harden the heart and its arteries, this increases the risk of heart disease and early death. We need to get with the program and realize this problem is not going away until we take a stand and say enough is enough. It is time to get our nation eating right and exercising regularly. We should aim for heart healthy goals like eating foods that help lower cholesterol and maintain a healthy weight.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Cholesterol is a type of fat your body needs it for many things, such as making new cells, but too much cholesterol in your blood increases your chances of having a heart attack and stroke. &lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;Cholesterol is a fatty, wax-like substance found in the cells of your body and blood. It comes from your diet and is produced by the body. Total cholesterol in the blood includes various components including HDL- &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;High-density lipoprotein&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:navy;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;(good), LDL- &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;Low-density lipoprotein&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:navy;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;(bad) and triglycerides. Cholesterol has an important role in the overall healthy functioning of the body. The body needs the right level of cholesterol to function properly, but too high levels of cholesterol increase the risk of cardiovascular disease. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;Heart healthy diets are hard for many to stick with but it is important to do so to keep your heart strong and healthy. There are many things you can eat for heart healthy diet things like fish, poultry, and lean meats. Broiled, baked, roast and poached foods. Drink low fat or skim milk low fat cheeses and yogurts. You should eat at least five fruits and vegetables a day. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;Cereals, breads, rice, and pasta made from whole grains (such as &amp;quot;whole-wheat&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;whole-grain&amp;quot; bread and pasta, rye bread, brown rice, and oatmeal). Foods that you should avoid are things like, Organ meat (liver, kidney, brains) Egg yolks, Fats (butter, lard) and oils, Packaged and processed foods. Doing these things will help you get your heart strong and keep it strong.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Exercises that can be done without over exerting yourself &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;can be divided into three basic types. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;Stretching or the slow lengthening of the muscles. Stretching the arms and legs before and after exercising helps prepare the muscles for activity and helps prevent injury and muscle strain. Regular stretching also increases your range of motion and flexibility. Cardiovascular or aerobic is steady physical activity using large muscle groups. This type of exercise strengthens the heart and lungs and improves the body&amp;#39;s ability to use oxygen. Aerobic exercise has the most benefits for your heart. Over time, aerobic exercise can help decrease your heart rate and blood pressure and improve your breathing (since your heart won&amp;#39;t have to work as hard during exercise). Strengthening exercises are repeated muscle contractions (tightening) until the muscle becomes tired. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font&gt;Unless there is a broad cultural and behavioral change among Americans regarding diet and exercise in America, heart disease rates will most likely continue to rise.&lt;br /&gt;Some types of heart disease closely linked to diet and lifestyle choices, are preventable others are due to genetic inheritance, infections or uncontrollable factors. The one thing I want to see happen is for us as Americans change the two out of five average to one in a hundred and work on one in every thousand. We need to take a stand for our on bodies&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font&gt;We are only given one and how we treat it is on us so take a stand to prevent the preventable and make the lifestyle changes need to cure heart disease for everyone. Making changes is a hard thing to do but it can be done with support and strength&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Elementary Dictionary.</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ElementaryDictionary/zvdcn/post.htm#438171</link><pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 03:54:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:438171</guid><dc:creator>Philip</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Sultanx wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hello. I want to learm more vocabulary. I have this book "Elementary Dictionry" from LOGMAN. It's very wonderful book. I liked it. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My qusetion is how to pick up the words from that book. Alphapitical or by random way? &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;Tell me please, I wait your reply.&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;I've studied a number of foreign languages, and this practice has always been helpful to me.&amp;nbsp; When I look up a "new" word, I pencil a check mark next to it (so I will know in the future that I have looked it up before and should probably learn it).&amp;nbsp; I also look at the words immediately before and after, so I can often get "3 for the price of 1".&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: past tense or past perfect tense?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PastTensePastPerfectTense/2/vkgmh/Post.htm#385159</link><pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 03:04:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:385159</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Anonymous wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Iâm not sure when to use past tense and when to use past perfect tense. For number 1 and 2, my answers are &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;met &lt;/font&gt;and &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;went&lt;/font&gt;, but the correct answers are &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;had met&lt;/font&gt; and &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;had gone&lt;/font&gt;. Can anyone explain it to me? Thanks!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jack came home at twelve last night. He &lt;u&gt;&amp;nbsp;1 &lt;/u&gt;&amp;nbsp;(meet) a friend in the street at six oâclock and &lt;u&gt;&amp;nbsp;2 &lt;/u&gt;&amp;nbsp;(go) to the movies with her. When he got home, &lt;font style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"&gt;the&lt;/font&gt; house was dark. Everyone had gone to bed.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Write the events in the order they &lt;u&gt;happened&lt;/u&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt;1&amp;nbsp; met a friend (6:00)&lt;br&gt;
2&amp;nbsp; went to the movies (between 6:00 and 12:00)&lt;br&gt;
3&amp;nbsp; (Everyone went to bed.)&lt;br&gt;
4&amp;nbsp; came home&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Write the events in the order they are &lt;u&gt;told&lt;/u&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
1&amp;nbsp; came home&lt;br&gt;
2&amp;nbsp; met a friend&lt;br&gt;
3&amp;nbsp; went to the movies&lt;br&gt;
4&amp;nbsp; (Everyone went to bed.)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Tell the whole story in the past tense until you get to events which
preceded an event you have already told.&amp;nbsp; At that point switch to
past perfect.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
1&amp;nbsp; came home&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; Use past.&amp;nbsp; (It's the starting point of the story.) - 4 in time sequence&lt;br&gt;
2&amp;nbsp; met a friend&amp;nbsp; - 1 in time sequence - Use past perfect.
(This event preceded "came home", which has already been told.)&lt;br&gt;
3&amp;nbsp; went to the movies - 2 in time sequence - Use past
perfect.&amp;nbsp; (This event preceded "came home", which has already been
told.)&lt;br&gt;
4&amp;nbsp; (Everyone went to bed.) - 3 in time sequence - Use past
perfect.&amp;nbsp; (This event preceded "came home", which has already been
told.)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
So:&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;came; had met; had gone; had gone.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;If you have an adequate number of words like &lt;i&gt;before&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;after&lt;/i&gt;, you can substitute past for past perfect with no loss of meaning.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
CJ&lt;i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: What do you think about the war between Israel and Lebanon?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/AboutBetweenIsraelLebanon/20/vbbzp/Post.htm#339386</link><pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:46:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:339386</guid><dc:creator>Aleen</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Anonymous wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;Right to take a land? What is it? Did the Brits have a right to take over North America? Did the Spanish have a right to take over South America? Who gave the English people their right to occupy Australia and New Zealand? Who gave the Anglo-Saxons their right to occupy Britain, and the Francs to take over Gaul?&lt;BR&gt;The area of Israel was occupied time and again by different people and different empires. Who gave the Assyrian and Babylonian empires their right to occupy it? And what about the Persians, the Hellenists, the Romans, the Byzantines, the Arabs, the Crusaders, the Mamluks, the Ottomans? Who gave them their right to occupy the land?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;sure no one has this right also the jews don't have this right as well, and probably u've forgotten that jews had occupied the land of Canaans (which is eretz israel&amp;nbsp; now) &amp;nbsp;and they burnt it and killed them if not genocided them so they occupied it&amp;nbsp; and they came back to occupy it again &lt;img src="/emoticons/emotion-2.gif" alt="Big Smile [:D]" /&gt; so it's not their land as u claim&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;at least we palestinians are the ones who lived here for the last 17 (btw arabs were here before the 17 centuries it's islam which came to the holy land in the 17 century not the arabs)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Let us all forget for a moment that the Jewish settlement in Israel was confirmed formally by the UN as a state, and that it was backed up by the British Mandate of Palestine (who was, for itself, a formal and authorized mandatory, backed up by the League of Nations)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;haven't u just said that no one has the right to occupy i guess we shoudn't also consider the jewish settlement as legal settlements they were just taken by power,&amp;nbsp; just as it was backed up by the League of Nations no one consider that the Brits don't have the right to live in North america, what is that contradiction u believe that those don't have the right&amp;nbsp; to take over noth america while the jews have the right to take over palestine not to mention the massacares they've done to palestinians?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;you cannot ignore the simple fact is that no one "invaded" to someone else's home, because it never was "his home".&lt;BR&gt;The Arabs of Israel (Palestinians, that, by the way, invaded the land just like every other nation before and after them), just like the Jews of Israel, just like the Christians of Israel, lived since ever under someone else's rule. They never had a sovereign country; their sovereignty was never breached, because they never had one!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;btw what u call the christians of israel are Palestinians (clear enough u don't know a lot about this land huh?)&amp;nbsp;, and what u yourself don't get the not all the palestinians are arabs and the palestinains are&amp;nbsp;a mix of all these nationalities they are arabs greeks and&amp;nbsp;the jews who have converted to islam or christainity ya it's&amp;nbsp; sad that we were under occupation many times but we were living&amp;nbsp;always living here even if we were under occupations&amp;nbsp;but it's still our home definitely&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR&gt; if we've been many times under occupation&amp;nbsp; that means it's ok to occupy us? to kill us? i don't&amp;nbsp; get your logic&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;As for the killing, I'm sorry to break this one, but the Arabs are not less guilty then the Jews, maybe even more. Just open a history book and read for yourself: 1920 riots, Jaffa riots of 1921, 1929 riots, Arab revolt of 1936-1939â¦&lt;BR&gt;Practically all of the wars that Israel had since 1948 (including) were started by its "peaceful" neighbors.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;so your usual response for an occupation is to keep watching them kicking out your people?&amp;nbsp;(not to mention the israeli troops that came it was clear enough that they were setting up for a war ,killing&amp;nbsp;and occupying)&amp;nbsp; and see the number of death; isrealis killed around 15000&amp;nbsp;arab while 6000 israeli was killed in it 4000 were troops and what about Sabra and Shatila deer yaseen thousands were dead and israel start the attacks!forgot the 17000 palestinians who were massacared they even followed them in lebanon! wasn't it enough to kick them out of their lands?&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Why do we call the Palestinians terrorists? That is your interpretation. I don't like generalizations and I don't call innocent people "terrorists".&lt;BR&gt;And still, the truth is that the tactics of Hezbollah, Hamas, Fatach, the Islamic Jihad and the rest of the Palestinian "freedom fighters" target Israeli civilians. They, as opposed to the Israeli army, aim their attacks at innocent men, women and children.&lt;BR&gt;How would you call a man who bombs himself in a club, killing 21 teenagers (in the range of 14-19 years of age) and injuring 120 more? "Freedom fighter"? I wouldn't say&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;teens? cuz the israeli soldiers are teens a 17 or 18 years old israeli can be enlisted for the army. your source of information is wrong&amp;nbsp;cuz they don't aim civiliasn many times they've bombed soldiers and the last three attacks were at the israeli soldiers while israelis as i see kill nothing but civilians they even shoot and hit children&amp;nbsp; not to mention the bombs that are surrounding east jerusalem that target children (they put them in toys to attract teh children to play with the and god knows how many were killed by them) at least i see what's happening but obviously you're one of those who are brainwashd by media &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;well&amp;nbsp;i don't care if u called them terrorists but i wonder why don't u call the israeli ones? a man enters a mosques and kill nearly ten what is that called? a women hits badly a palestinian girl what do u call this?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;i don't know why don't you condem that attacks of israelis that kills a lot of kids and civilians what about their massacares? not to mention that they attack without any reason and break into our houses&amp;nbsp; what about the expel?? the treatment on checkpoints? and don't they the israeli politicians wish for a drown Gazza in public isn't it clear enough that they want and ethnic cleansing?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: How to enlarge my vocabulary?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/HowToEnlargeMyVocabulary/2/djgqm/Post.htm#296798</link><pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 17:12:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:296798</guid><dc:creator>Philip</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;CalifJim wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;Memorize the dictionary, you say? &lt;img src="/emoticons/emotion-6.gif" alt="Sad [:(]" /&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I don't think so! &lt;img src="/emoticons/emotion-1.gif" alt="Smile [:)]" /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;A monolingual dictionary can be rather cumbersome, but here are a couple of&amp;nbsp;hints I've found useful&amp;nbsp;while studying a number of languages.&amp;nbsp; Using a bi-lingual dictionary to look up a new word, jot it down &lt;STRONG&gt;as well as&lt;/STRONG&gt; the listings immediately before and after.&amp;nbsp;Be sure&amp;nbsp;(if it's your own dictionary) to put a little check mark by the word each time you look it up.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;By the time you have 3 checks, you know it's a word you should commit to memory!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: sex before marriage , I'm not sure (READ THIS)</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MarriageSureRead/6/dwcxm/Post.htm#290695</link><pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 14:27:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:290695</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;Response from a Christian&amp;nbsp;women who has been married to the same man for over 25 years and has a sexually active daughter.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;From my own experience sex before marrage can't compare to sex after marriage.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Think about all the different flavors of food.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; There are that many different flavors of sex.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Think about all the different songs and melodies.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Sex is that varried also.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; The sexual act with someone you totally trust,&amp;nbsp; who is trying to meet your needs,&amp;nbsp; who knows your body,&amp;nbsp; your timming,&amp;nbsp; your reactions&amp;nbsp; can't be beat.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Sometimes it rough and playful and sometimes it's sweet and tender.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; It can take years to explore the different types of music you can make together.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;No number of sexual acts before marriage can tell you what sex will be like after marriage.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Some couples settle down to a single song other's continue to explore&amp;nbsp;the&amp;nbsp;variaty of music that they can make with there bodies.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Even after 20 years of marriage there are times I think WOW another song of love.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Because the tune of the act was so totally different then before.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I will be honest,&amp;nbsp; we had sex before marriage,&amp;nbsp; but one of the most important things we did during our courtship was to have a period of 6-8 weeks without sex so we could concentrate on our relationship.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Also,&amp;nbsp; if my man can control himself around me who he adors, loves and finds very attractive,&amp;nbsp; why should I ever fear that he can't control himself around others and vice a versa.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; There will be times during marriage that sex will have to stop for a period.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Surgury on either partner.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Right before and after the birth of a baby.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; It would be good to know that your future partner/spouse can controll themselves before you make a marriage bond. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;We are called to LOVE.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Which is care and concern for the other person.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Therefore if either partner is hesitant on this occasion.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; STOP.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Control&amp;nbsp;meeting the needs of the flesh.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; But don't harbor too much guilt over sharing an expression of love.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; After all we have an awesome God who forgives all our sins.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Its not so much what we do as why we do it.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;May God bless all the readers of this message to discern Gods will for them at this time.&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The Unicorn Lady&lt;img src="/emoticons/emotion-2.gif" alt="Big Smile [:D]" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Armenian Genocide</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ArmenianGenocide/8/cxbvv/Post.htm#236185</link><pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 01:07:06 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:236185</guid><dc:creator>YoungCalifornian</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;You again misunderstood me. But I think this confusion stems from understaning of the term politics. I tried to say even such an organization which doesnt have to do anything regarding to this case (an historical event)&amp;nbsp;can make decisions because of the diaspora.As for Sub-Commission on the Promotion and Protection of Human Rights it is obviously a problematic commision and there are several criticism about the decisions of them .some of them from wikipedi&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The Commission has been repeatedly criticized for the composition of its membership. In particular, several of its member countries themselves have dubious human rights records, including states whose representatives have been elected to chair the commission.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Another criticism is that the Commission has not been used for constructive discussion of human rights issues, but as a forum for politically selective finger-pointing and criticism. The desire of states with problematic human rights records to be elected to the Commission is largely to defend themselves from such attacks.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;And even if you reach wikipedi you will see that this commision was even unable to&amp;nbsp;reach an agreement about the adverse treatment in AbuGharib, which was proved and obvious to the world by photos and videos.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Again, I'm not trying to argue that any one person, organization, or other source of information is going to be 100% objective.&amp;nbsp; It's simply impossible.&amp;nbsp; However, despite that fact, some sources are still more reputable than others.&amp;nbsp; The Sub-Commission on the Promotion and Protection of Human Rights may not be perfect, but it's a much more reliable source than any I've seen you provide.&amp;nbsp; I also notice that of all the criticisms you've presented, none center around the truthfulness of any claims the sub-commission has made.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;Did i say i am not biased? Quite the contrary. But i am trying to find the true way.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;B&gt;Who brought up this whole UNESCO discussion?&lt;/B&gt; Oh dont say this.It was you who had brought several so-called&amp;nbsp; objective sources. I only responded to show you there cannot be any objectivity in such a historical matter. &lt;B&gt;Get it?&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;And you compared it with *** while we should have been discussing if it was a gencoide or not in terms of the initial aim of Turks. And worst than all, it is a very common and&amp;nbsp;rotten&amp;nbsp;method which is used by everyone to elicit pity in people,that is to say comparing whatever at hand with Nazi torture.And about torture against armenians you also started it by sending a source contains photos but i didnt want to respond it by sources that show massacred Turks because i think it is not what we should discuss here and nor does it help us to come to an agreement. I dont think it is good way for an efficient discussion&amp;nbsp;to show photos in order to elicit pity in people.Now is it me who is off topic?&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You may not have said that you are unbiased, but your attitude and comments directed towards me have implied as much.&amp;nbsp; You've accused me of bias because one of the names I provided as an example of a&amp;nbsp;very (not &lt;EM&gt;entirely&lt;/EM&gt;, but very) impartial organization which accepts the Armenian Genocide as fact has received some criticism in the past.&amp;nbsp; Well, more accurately, you attack the organization because one of its sister organizations was criticized for censorship.&amp;nbsp; You then go on and&amp;nbsp;act as if pointing out that the fact that any organization is liable to have some bias is some sort of great point.&amp;nbsp; If that's the case, why believe anything anyone says?&amp;nbsp; Afterall, we're all biased.&amp;nbsp; If that's the crux of your argument I think you should rethink your position, because I can make the same point regarding any sources you provide.&amp;nbsp; Besides, that was only &lt;EM&gt;one&lt;/EM&gt; of the names I listed.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'm trying to reach people in this discussion on an&amp;nbsp;analytical level, not an emotional one.&amp;nbsp; Still, if some of the arguments I've made tug at people's heart strings, I'm not going to apologize for that.&amp;nbsp; It's a very sad event in human&amp;nbsp;history.&amp;nbsp; I think I've made it clear why I chose to link some photos and make the comparison to the Holocaust, and neither were to elicit sympathy.&amp;nbsp; I chose to link the photos so people could see that there is indeed photographic evidence of the genocide (those photos were not taken by Armenians, by the way).&amp;nbsp; I explained the parallels to the Holocaust in my last post which addressed your claim that I was only making the comparison to elicit sympathy.&amp;nbsp; Even you should be able to admit that &lt;EM&gt;&lt;B&gt;if&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/EM&gt; one accepts the truth of the Armenian Genocide, the parallels to the Holocaust are uncanny.&amp;nbsp; Since you seem to be a fan of Wikipedia (which is, admittedly, not a great source), I thought I've provide this well-stated excerpt from the discussion of the "Armenian Genocide" entry:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;What can be termed âhostile and incivil [sicâ¦uncivil]â in this case are the attempts of genocide denialists, historical revisionist and obviously insufficiently educated commentators and fiction writers such as yourself and others here to obscure and rewrite history in an attempt to shield historical criminals of some of the most serious crimes against humanity that have ever occurred in history. In doing so you perpetuate the genocide of an innocent population of Armenians whose survivors suffer through the mental anguish not only of the loss of their relatives and kin and the destruction of their nation â but by the insult and defamation caused by the continued active and ugly denial of the truth of what occurred. This is not â as you attempt to portray it â the âArmenian version of the storyâ â it is a depiction of the history as was documented and corroborated by numerous eyewitnesses and is accepted by the vast majority of scholars, historians, Encyclopedic and history book entries â and it in fact is the truth â as known at the time it occurred and as is known today. It is not the âArmenian versionâ â your contention that it is such is completely false. It is the denial of the true history that is a POV version. &lt;B&gt;No one is required to ârespectâ or acknowledge the denial of the Holocaust except in acknowledging what it is â an ugly twisting of the truth to support a particular racist and hateful viewpoint â and there is absolutely no difference between Holocaust denial and denial of the Armenian Genocide accept for the fact that Armenian Genocide denial is a view that is actively officially held by and sponsored by a nation state. Otherwise each every and all aspects of these denials are the same! &lt;/B&gt;If eyewitnesses described camps as concentration camps â by exact word or by description of the activities held in and around them â or more appropriately âdeath campsâ for some â then it matters not if the Turkish government has chosen to call them âway stationsâ or âbeach front villasâ. While we may never be able to know the exact number of Armenians killed or murdered â as we will never know the exact numbers of Jews (and this has been disputed in the very same manner and for the very same reasons as the Turkish deniers dispute the Armenian figures) etc â this does not invalidate the fact that certain figures are (and have always been) accepted as reasonable approximations and that the resulting disparity of Armenian population within Anatolia before and after this time is relatively unchanged in its relationship. Thus disputing the exact numbers in know way obviates the genocide claim and again there is no real controversy of any bearing as what the Turkish Government or their paid/sponsored/held hostage supporters might claim has no validity as the position itself (that genocide did not happen or that no significant numbers of Armenians beyond the norm for the time died and/or that there was no specific campaign against themâ¦etc) is already discredited and obviously spurious and in fact there is no valid dispute of the relative loss of the Armenian population, how and why it occurred and that it was with certainly and absolutely a state sponsored genocide. As for genocide âartâ or what-have-youâ¦this might be the only place were we even remotely agree. I think it is relevant and should be referenced â however considering the article lacks all of the sufficient descriptive elements of the how, why, where, when and by who and to who information that I think is relevant and necessary â I would argue that there is undue emphasis on clearly secondary issues as âartâ etc. However, Pamukâs case IMO â needs to be expanded onâ¦not his specific case â but the systematic campaign of genocide denial by the Turkish government â through laws and prosecutions, destruction of cultural monuments, changing of place names and even names of plants and animals, and of course active international sponsorship of genocide denial â through paid academic sponsorship and restrictions on independence of researchers positions, to pressures upon and threats against governments, corporations and individuals.&lt;/EM&gt; --&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:THOTH" target="_blank" title="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:THOTH"&gt;THOTH&lt;/a&gt; 17:40, 19 May 2006 (UTC)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Clearly, I'm not the only one who sees the parallel between the Armenian Genocide and the Holocaust.&amp;nbsp; In fact, the same discussion page has a whole section titled "Those who deny the Holocaust use the same rational and arguments as Turks who deny the Armenian Genocide"!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;From the very beginning, I have told you it doesnt make any&amp;nbsp;sense to me to say if something is commonly believed it is true. Actually, quite the contrary in such a world that is swayed into a direction by power holds and diasporas and so on.Look what I have found.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I do not deny that just because a belief is widespread, that doesn't necessarily make it true.&amp;nbsp; Still, when the majority of academics studying an issue reach the same conclusion, that has to be given some weight.&amp;nbsp; You can't brush aside every point I make by saying everyone is biased, and just because most experts agree, that doesn't make it true.&amp;nbsp; How is anything to be believed then?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I think that the example you've provided of historic propoganda is an ironic one.&amp;nbsp; The author of that passage intends the Indians to be analogous to the Turks, but I think that the situation of the Indians more clearly mirrors that of the Armenians in Turkey.&amp;nbsp; The difference there is that after years of oppressing Native American peoples, the American government and people eventually began to question their perceptions and re-examine history.&amp;nbsp; In the Western world, there is a tradition of questioning events of the past and recognizing that one's own side is not always the right one.&amp;nbsp; Turkey, in contrast,&amp;nbsp;would seem to have&amp;nbsp;no such tradition.&amp;nbsp; Apart from the fact that your government will prosecute people for questioning Turkish history (as evidenced by Orhan Pamuk's situation), the fact that you've been unwilling to say one negative thing about Turkish history (even debating the fact that the Turks pillaged Constantinople) throughout this debate suggests as much.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Also, I hope you don't seriously believe that the website you've provided is an accurate source of information.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Lastly, I leave you with some another excerpt from that same Wikipedia discussion.&amp;nbsp; This one is actually an excerpt of an excerpt:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;In Istanbul, a Crack In the Wall of Denial - We're Trying to Debate the Armenian Issue &lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;By Elif Shafak - Sunday, September 25, 2005; ISTANBUL &lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;I am the daughter of a Turkish diplomat -- a rather unusual character in the male-dominated foreign service in that she was a single mother. ... throughout my childhood, the word "Armenian" meant only one thing to me: a terrorist who wanted to kill my mother. Faced with hatred, I hated back. But that was as far as my feelings went. It took me years to ask the simple question: Why did the Armenians hate us? My ignorance was not unusual. For me in those days, and for most Turkish citizens even today, my country's history began in 1923, with the founding of the modern Turkish state. The roots of the Armenians' rage -- in the massacres, atrocities and deportations that decimated Turkey's Armenian population in the last years of Ottoman rule, particularly 1915 -- were simply not part of our common historical memory. But for me today, and for a growing number of my fellow Turks, that has changed. Until my early twenties, like many Turks living abroad, I was less interested in history than in what we described as "improving Turkey's image in the eyes of Westerners." As I began reading extensively on political and social history, I was drawn to the stories of minorities, of the marginalized and the silenced Yet it was not until I came to the United States in 2002 and started getting involved in an Armenian-Turkish intellectuals' network that I seriously felt the need to face the charges that, beginning in 1915, Turks killed as many as 1.5 million Armenians and drove hundreds of thousands more from their homes. I focused on the literature of genocide, particularly the testimony of survivors; I watched filmed interviews at the Zoryan Institute's Armenian archives in Toronto; I talked to Armenian grandmothers, participated in workshops for reconciliation and collected stories from Armenian friends who were generous enough to entrust me with their family memories and secrets. With each step, I realized not only that atrocities had been committed in that terrible time but that their effect had been made far worse by the systematic denial that followed. I came to recognize a people's grief and to believe in the need to mourn our past together. I also got to know other Turks who were making a similar intellectual journey. Obviously there is still a powerful segment of Turkish society that completely rejects the charge that Armenians were purposely exterminated. Some even go so far as to claim that it was Armenians who killed Turks, and so there is nothing to apologize for. These nationalist hardliners include many of our government officials, bureaucrats, diplomats and newspaper columnists. They dominate Turkey's public image -- but theirs is only one position held by Turkish citizens, and it is not even the most common one. The prevailing attitude of ordinary people toward the "Armenian question" is not one of conscious denial; rather it is collective ignorance. These Turks feel little need to question the past as long as it does not affect their daily lives. There is a third attitude, prevalent among Turkish youth: Whatever happened, it was a long time ago, and we should concentrate on the future rather than the past. "Why am I being held responsible for a crime my grandfather committed -- that is, if he ever did it?" they ask. Meanwhile, the Armenian question has been prominently featured in Turkish media. Hurriyet, the nation's most popular newspaper, ran a series of pro and con interviews on this formerly taboo subject, called "The Armenian Dossier." The upcoming trial of acclaimed author Orhan Pamuk, charged with "denigrating" Turkish identity for talking about the killing of Kurds and Armenians, has been fervently debated. Various columnists have directly apologized to the Armenians for the sufferings caused to their people by the Turks. And stories have been reported of orphaned Armenian girls who saved their lives by changing their names, converting to Islam and marrying Turks -- and whose grandchildren are unaware today of their own mixed heritage. All this activity has triggered a nationalist backlash. That should be expected...Foreign Minister Gul,in New York, lamented what effect this would have on Turkey's quest to join the European Union: "There's no one better at hurting themselves than us," he said.Through the collective efforts of academics, journalists, writers and media correspondents, 1915 is being opened to discussion in my homeland as never before. The process is not an easy one and will disturb many vested interests. I know how hard it is -- most children from diplomatic families, confronting negative images of Turkey abroad, develop a sort of defensive nationalism, and it's especially true among those of us who lived through the years of Armenian terrorism. But I also know that the journey from denial to recognition is one that can be made. &lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Here's a link to the discussion, by the way: &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_Genocide" target="_blank" title="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_Genocide"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Armenian_Genocide&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>please help me with my Personal Statement</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PersonalStatement/bqzqp/post.htm</link><pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:27:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:163861</guid><dc:creator>Tubo</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;this is my personal statement. i 'm not sure about it especially the 5th paragragh. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;thank you very much for any help!!!&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;As a senior majored in business Administration, I have been exposed systematically to concepts and theories of every aspect of management such as logistic, marketing and human resource management. I am now applying for acceptance into your MSc program of &lt;a href="http://www.wau.nl/msc/2006/mecs.html" target="_blank" title="http://www.wau.nl/msc/2006/mecs.html"&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;Management, Economics and Consumer Studies&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/a&gt; because I want to be trained in modern business theories and practice. I believe that holding a masterâs degree of your school is the key for the door of success.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;I am in the state of being maximum energetic, doing my best for a promising future. Throughout four years in university, I had an interest in participating in student activities as well as class-room learning. One such activity in which I took part in was the donation for Red Across Association. I was an executive member of this organization where I directed events such as getting touch with Red Across, assigning the donation collection, distribution and transporting as well. My duties within this organization included managing our budget, supervising the actions of volunteers, and making preparations with regards to facilities and transportation. For me, this extracurricular involvement was very important because it was the very first time in which I was able to act as a manager! &lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;My study process was not roses all the way; however I struggled to overcome all handicaps and won finally. Students in our school have to choose whether to take part in A-level or B- level class in math. Although I was not good at math, I chose the A-level, the harder one; because I know it is one of the most important subjects for students majored in management. Unfortunately, I failed at the final examination of math that semester. The feeling of disappointed defeated and helpless suddenly came hourly. A senior advised me to ask the professor pass me through the back door. But the telephone numbers were so hard for me to press at that time, when my fatherâs face constantly obtruded, smiling at me. His eyes glittered with encouraging. The ray of light tinged my fingers and pushed me handed up the phone. I dropped the chance of makeup and told my tutor that I would like to study math again so that I can master the mathematic knowledge. My professor quite supported me for my preciseness. Not only did he give me lots of encourage but also analyze the cause of my failure. He suggested me to do my lessons before and after classes and spent more time in self-studying. Everything comes to him who waits. I passed the exam of A-level course. And now, when I reflect on those days, I realize that since I can tackle the difficulty in math, I wonât be afraid of any other obstacles no matter in future study nor life.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Besides academic study and activity, I was send to the youth palace learning folk dancing when I was 6 years old; I really liked this activity because all the teachers would like to pick me up as the principal dancer. Whirled across the stage to the music gave me the sense that I was the most elegant one among all the girls. I started learning sketching when I was 12, my father even sent me to the China University of Art to have some training. Although I lost the stage, magnesium light and applause, I got a quiet space for drawing along, tasting the joys and fascination from another aesthetics. I have to say that dancing gave me confidence and taught me how to work in a team, and drawing shaped my taste of esthetics as well as the virtue of patience. When I was a high school student, I was appointed as an art editor for our school magazine. During that period, with the assistance of some friends and teachers, I organized picture shows. Like any one who fascinated with art, I am absolutely mad about the art of advertisement. Apart from these, being impressed by my father, I love music, especially playing musical instruments. All of these have greatly influenced my romantic and preciseness personality.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;A question that I often ask myself is "What shall I do to make sure reaching my goals?" Having these goals will help motivate me to do something. The goal in front of me is to acquire the kind of education that will enable me to contribute to the development of business studies in my native land as an instructor in university. To achieve this, I believe that I should hold a masterâs degree before I have the ability to pursuit a doctorâs.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Personally, I feel that I am a strong leader and shall be able to communicate well with people. I take pleasure in working one on one with individuals, but also in working in a group effort. I am persistent when needed, and I am confident in myself. I am excited about finishing school and being able to start my career in marketing. I have no doubt that I will persevere and be successful.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: GRAMMER, REVISIONS, ANYTHING for CHARACTER LETTER!</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/GrammerRevisionsAnythingCharacter-Letter/bzdjj/post.htm#109115</link><pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:04:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:109115</guid><dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator><description>I made a few revisions, can you look over this and see what you think, thanks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Honorable Judge Nettles-Nickerson &lt;br /&gt;Judge of the 30th Judicial Circuit Court &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dear Judge Nettles-Nickerson:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The detrimental actions of Alex Hamil have caused a great amount of distress and have been devastating to everyone involved. No amount of remorse, no matter how heartfelt, can excuse his actions. Despite the poor choices made by Mr. Hamil, I believe his actions to be out character. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first time I met Alex was when he outran me in a workout as a freshman. Alex was always one of the hardest workers on the team. He was a middle distance runner, while I was a long distance one. Most middle distance runners trained with the sprinters, but Alex was one who chose to train with the long distance runners, which required much more work. Alex was well liked by everyone. He was the prom king his senior year. He was outgoing and sociable, and on the track he befriended many members of opposing teams, most notably one of our rivals, which made running against them more rewarding. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the two years I trained with Alex, the members of our 3200 meter relay team grew close, almost inseparable. Before meets we would have dinner together, and the four of us would often socialize both before and after meets. In my senior year, through hard work, dedication, and teamwork, our relay set the school record, and qualified for the state meet. Alex was a key component toward the success of our team. Since graduating, I have kept in touch with Alex and have come back to watch him run on a number of occasions. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I believe the time I spent with Alex, along with my current credentials allow me to accurately judge Alexâs character.  I am currently a student at Tri-State University, where I am studying Civil Engineering and hold a 3.5 grade point average. After I graduate in the spring, I plan on attending graduate school, and further my education with a degree in Structural Engineering. Over the past two summers, I have been employed at the Michigan Department of Transportation, where I have been interning and gaining valuable experience in my field of study. While attending Marshall High School, I was a two-time academic All-State runner, and a three-time captain of the cross country team, along with being the captain of the track team my senior year. Currently, I am the captain of our Tri-States cross country team. I am also involved in the American Society of Civil Engineers, where last year I was the secretary of our local chapter at Tri-State University. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While Alex was out on bond, I was able to spend quite a bit of time with him. We went to church together every Sunday morning. On Sunday nights, after he got out of Alcoholics Anonymous, we would play euchre at his house. Alex insisted on going to AA every night he could, and told me that it was good for him. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After Alex serves his debt to society for the poor choices he made, I have no doubt that he will return to being a productive member of society.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Respectfully Submitted,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>