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Re: IN SPEECH

Clive — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:31:08 GMT

Hi,
I was listening to some types of speeches and have some questions.

1.When someone says this, does he have to make it known that it is quoted? Not if he doesn't want to. Such 'rules' are not governed by grammar. A teacher, for example, may insist that a student identify every quotation. I think the written version should be in quotation marks because not being in quotation marks doesn't make sense to me.

Next time is later again.<<< This doesn't make any sense to me. What does it mean?

2.Can we have a present perfect after a dependant clause like "After you heard it" in the past tense? It certainly sounds odd in this example. I can't think of another example in which it sounds OK, although I don't like to say an absolute 'No, never'.

After you heard it, you have decided to come back again. Thank you. Nice to see you all here again.

Best wishes, Clive

IN SPEECH

Anonymous — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:17:49 GMT

Hi,

I was listening to some types of speeches and have some questions.

1.When someone says this, does he have to make it known that it is quoted? I think the written version should be in quotation marks because not being in quotation marks doesn't make sense to me.

Next time is later again.

2.Can we have a present perfect after a dependant clause like "After you heard it" in the past tense?

After you heard it, you have decided to come back again. Thank you. Nice to see you all here again.

Re: tense problems

Cool Breeze — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 16:42:18 GMT

In the first sentence the use of a present tense (think) emphasises what your opinion is now. The past tense (thought) refers to the past; your opinion may have changed by now.

"I told her that I am (was?) happy in my job" Both are right. The sequence of tenses would require was but if you are still happy, the present tense is also possible.

"I said to her that I do (did?) not know where Bob had gone to" I would use did in your sentence because of the that clause. If you had a quotation within quotation marks, even do would be correct in some contexts. The last preposition should be omitted.

tense in quotation marks and conditional

Anonymous — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 01:46:41 GMT

Hi,

1. Let us say this was in quotation marks. How would you validate the use of the underlined tense?

The people who built houses; their walls have crumbled, as if they had never been!

2. TWO more questions:

Does 'as if' in normal sentential situations mean the same as 'if', like here.

He splurged as if he had unlimited amount of money. -- this wouldn't be a good example to confirm my argument but this would be good though.
He would splurge as if he had unlimited amount of money. -- no. 2 conditional?

I meant to ask you this. Could we have the modal word 'would' in the if-clause? I think 'would' has a sense of (conditional??) past, so this would be good.
If you would bring cake, I would bring cola to the party.

Re: Slanting words

Believer — Mon, 19 May 2008 21:53:32 GMT

Thank you.

Would you say that quotation can be used for emphasis. I think a lot of people in this forum has said in the past that a person can't use quotation marks just to highlight a single word or whole phrase or clause, but I think I gleaned over at a source that said it can be used such a way.

He called what he saw "milky red", but it seems me, it shouted "furnace read."

I think the use as this is different from what people seem to call "quote and unquote." What is this "quote and unquote" anyway?

Slanting words

Believer — Mon, 19 May 2008 10:56:44 GMT

Hi,

What is the reason for slanting the word here? I seem to see slanting done almost in a nonchalant fashion. I thought slanting is a possible subsitutue for quotation marks. Can slanting be used to highlight a word or phrase or clause?

... takes the sovereignity of God so seriously that you might actually be suprised by God every once in a while.

Re: article sentence analyses

Clive — Thu, 15 May 2008 03:15:36 GMT

Hi,

I was reading the May 14, 2008 (May (Web-only) article of the ChristianityToday magazine titled "Double Divorce" by Sarah Pulliam and have the following questions.

A paragraph from the article:

Wheaton's Community Covenant requires the upholding of "the sanctity of marriage between a man and woman." The college employee handbook states that the college will consider retaining a divorcing employee "when there is reasonable evidence that the circumstances that led to the final dissolution of the marriage related to desertion or adultery on the part of the other partner."

Recopy of the above paragraph:

Wheaton's Community Covenant requires the upholding of 1)"the sanctity of marriage between a man and woman." The college employee handbook states that the college will consider retaining a divorcing employee 2)"when there is reasonable evidence that the circumstances that led to the final dissolution of the marriage related to desertion or adultery on the part of the other partner."

1. No 1 seems to be just a lifting of words for a highlighting purpose. I think I have asked in the past about this but didn't seem to have gotten clear answers. Does a lifting of words or phrases or clauses for a sole purpose of emphasis or an illustration allowed? No quoting of anybody's words but a writer's desire to hightlight the words or phrases or clauses.

I don't fully understand your question. If you are asking if it is OK to quote words from another source, the answer is that it usually is. Often, the source should be acknowledged. This particular phrase is very commonly used by people who support this aspect of marriage.

2. No. 2. seems to be a partial lifting or quoting from a source, in this case, it seems to be the college employee handbook. I think the writer could have quoted more but have decided to put quotation marks on that portion only for his purpose. Correct? Yes.

3. Do you need to italicize what looks to be names of an online magazine, student newspaper and blog in writing? No, you don't have to use italics. It's just a matter of choosing a suitable style and using it consistently. Various style guides offer different ways to do this. Colleges often give new students instructions on which style to use. I would say that, before the advent of personal computers, italics weremuch more uncommonly used for this purpose.

I think I have the name of a newpaper not italicized in writing. Partial sentences from the article:

..., Gramm told Christinity Today in an e-mail

Wheaton's student newspaper, The Record, found ...

..., Alan Jacobs, wrote in a First Things blog post that ...

4. I have trouble with the phrases like "less of something" or "more of something" or "less a thing" or "more a thing" -- when do we put "of" there and when not?? I' say the simplest approach is just to think of these as standard, set phrases. You can say 'less of a need' or 'less need', 'more of a need' or 'more need'.

From the article:

"We leave issues like spiritual discipline in the hands of the churches, so there's less of a need for us to handle these issues," Calvin spokesman Phil de Haan said.

Best wishes, Clive

article sentence analyses

Anonymous — Thu, 15 May 2008 02:46:50 GMT

Hi,

I was reading the May 14, 2008 (May (Web-only) article of the ChristianityToday magazine titled "Double Divorce" by Sarah Pulliam and have the following questions.

A paragraph from the article:

Recopy of the above paragraph:

3. Do you need to italicize what looks to be names of an online magazine, student newspaper and blog in writing? I think I have the name of a newpaper not italicized in writing. Partial sentences from the article:

..., Gramm told Christinity Today in an e-mail

Wheaton's student newspaper, The Record, found ...

..., Alan Jacobs, wrote in a First Things blog post that ...

4. I have trouble with the phrases like "less of something" or "more of something" or "less a thing" or "more a thing" -- when do we put "of" there and when not??

From the article:

"We leave issues like spiritual discipline in the hands of the churches, so there's less of a need for us to handle these issues," Calvin spokesman Phil de Haan said.

Re: A FEW QUESTIONS

Tanit — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 21:55:26 GMT

Hi,

So many questions in one post only!!! I'm answering only some of them.

Newguest wrote:
Does the phrase I'm thinking of going to Vienna mean the same as I'm planning ~~on going~~ to go ..?

Roughly the same meaning. However, a plan is something more definite than a thought. If I am planning a trip, I might have decided when I want to leave, where I am going to stay etc.

Newguest wrote:

Oh yes, of course, I was forgetting: Luke's birthday is on Sunday. WHY "I WAS FORGETTING"? Why not "I forgot"? (by the way: shall I put the question mark before the quotation mark or after it?)

Because you didn't forget! A past continuous form is sometimes used to indicate that an action in the past was interrupted at a certain point in time. So, think of it as "I was forgetting that Luke's birthday is on Sunday, but luckily I didn't forget" or as "I was forgetting to tell you that Luke's birthday is on Sunday, but it came to my mind when ..."

As for the question mark, it must come after the quotation mark in both your questions (it comes before the second speech mark when the quotation contains a question).

Newguest wrote:

I know that I can omit the pronouns in this sentence: The man who/that I met last week....

However I don't know why I cannot omit the pronouns in this sentence: The man who/that met me....

In your first example, you can leave out who/that because it's the object of the relative clause. You cannot leave it out in the second one because it's the subject.

Newguest wrote:

Could you tell me what the difference in meaning is between these two sentences: (shall I put a question mark at the end of this sentence?)

a) My sister who lives in London is a lawyer.

b) My sister, who lives in London, is a lawyer.

In sentence a (defining relative clause) you have more than one sister. The relative clause specifies which sister you are referring to (the one who lives in London, not the one who lives in Cambridge).
In your sentence b (non-defining relative clause), you have only one sister, and you're adding a bit of extra information (i.e. the fact that she lives in London).

Re: more examples please

Believer — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 01:57:40 GMT

Thank you, Calif.

Can you tell me what you mean by the same rules can be applied to parenthetical content?

As to the application of the rules to quoted content, I think mostly we focus on some content that is taken from a writing content but can it be done for the case where you are not quoting from any source but using it to bring out a content like this?

A possible title to a post:

What does "It's awesome" mean? -- Here, a person did not pull the content in quotation marks out from anywhere or referring to anything special, but rather decided to put the quotation marks around the clause for the purpose of bring it out for an inquiry, thus making it to act as a noun that shows general meaning.

Jesus wants to be the "someone else" in our lives whom we put first. -- Usually, we use the phrase "someone else" without any articles but in this case we can use "the' because we are specifying a specific someone else, but can we write without the quotation marks like this?

Jesus wants to be the someone else in our lives whom we put first.

Is quotation marks necessary because it is a not-so-usual use of the word "someone else"?