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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Commas tag:Quoting' matching tags 'Commas' and 'Quoting'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aCommas+tag%3aQuoting&amp;tag=Commas,Quoting&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Commas tag:Quoting' matching tags 'Commas' and 'Quoting'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3191.21962)</generator><item><title>Re: Quotations, commas, and capitalization</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/QuotationsCommasCapitalization/2/zlkpn/Post.htm#474806</link><pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 11:28:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:474806</guid><dc:creator>Yoong Liat</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Scribbler wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;
&lt;P&gt;What about in a sentence such as:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;But ultimately, he said, âsuccess really does build success.â&lt;/EM&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;(Same as stated below.)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;or&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Ultimately, he said, âthe war machinery that uses force will benefit more in the long term,â stressing that it must be considered how the people evaluating the actions of the military will judge its actions.&lt;/EM&gt; &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;(No capital is needed if the writer is not quoting all that is said by the speaker. In other words, there are some&amp;nbsp;words left out&amp;nbsp;before 'the war machinery'.)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Each of these&amp;nbsp;examples came from articles published online by well-known U.S. colleges. Is it correct NOT to capitalize the first letter in the quotation in these cases? If so, why is capitalization not required here, while it IS required in &lt;EM&gt;After a while, he said, "The scars will fade."&lt;/EM&gt;? &lt;img src="/emoticons/emotion-18.gif" alt="Huh? [:^)]" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Comma after this quote??</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/CommaAfterThisQuote/zkgzw/post.htm#468562</link><pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 01:08:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:468562</guid><dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;Where would the commas be (if any) in this sentence?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;-- The quote "Romance at short notice was her specialty" shows that she is rather skilled at making up stories like these.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;The term 'quote' is an informal versionof the word 'quotation'. I suggest that you use the full form, since you want to make your sentence as correct as possible.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;&lt;EM&gt;The quotation,&amp;nbsp;"Romance at short notice was her specialty", shows that she is rather skilled at making up stories like these.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Better yet, why say it is a quotation when that is evident from the fact that you are quoting it? I prefer something like this.&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Her remark/comment/statement,&amp;nbsp;"Romance at short notice was her specialty", shows that she is rather skilled at making up stories like these.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Best wishes, Clive&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: About quoting</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/AboutQuoting/zhlzn/post.htm#455273</link><pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:58:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:455273</guid><dc:creator>Scandza</dc:creator><description>&lt;br /&gt;Hi Zerox&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As far as I know there is no rule in quoting texts. You can either use three full stops or just a single one.&lt;br /&gt;For example, in the short story The Book of Sand, Borges cites a fragment of George Herbert's poem "The Collar"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;... thy rope of sands...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;using three full stops twice between commas. Also I've read many quotations that have three full stops in the originals but transcribed with one or no full stops.&lt;br /&gt;I think it really depends on the context. Could you write the text so we can see what is more suitable for it?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks</description></item><item><title>About quoting</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/AboutQuoting/zhldq/post.htm</link><pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:57:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:455242</guid><dc:creator>Zerox</dc:creator><description>I couldn't find any info on this on the Internet, so I ask it here. I'm doing an essay and I want to add a quote in the text. However, I do not desire to quote the whole sentence, that is, I wish to quote only the things before a comma and not the things after the comma. I just can't remember how to do it. I'm quoting from a short story. I vaguely remember it should be done like this: "This part I desire to quote..." Is it like that? Does those three full stops mean that the sentence continues but I do not wish to quote it all? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Punctuation within quotes?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PunctuationWithinQuotes/2/zdgbp/Post.htm#434110</link><pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:33:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:434110</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>I find these rules at http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/quotes.asp very helpful. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;
           
             
               
     
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                            &lt;td rowspan="4"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Rule 1&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
                            &lt;td colspan="2"&gt;Periods and commas always go inside quotation marks, 
                            even inside single quotes. &lt;/td&gt;
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                            &lt;td rowspan="3"&gt;Examples&lt;/td&gt;
                            &lt;td&gt;&lt;em&gt;The sign changed from "Walk," to "Don't Walk," to "Walk" again within 30   seconds. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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                            &lt;td&gt;&lt;em&gt;She said, "Hurry up." &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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                            &lt;td&gt;&lt;em&gt;She said, "He said, 'Hurry up.'" &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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                            &lt;td rowspan="4"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Rule 2 &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
                            &lt;td colspan="2"&gt;The
placement of question marks with quotes follows logic. If a question is
in quotation marks, the question mark should be placed inside the
quotation marks. &lt;/td&gt;
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                            &lt;td&gt;Examples&lt;/td&gt;
                            &lt;td&gt;&lt;em&gt;She asked, "Will you still be my friend?" &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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                            &lt;td&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;
                            &lt;td&gt;&lt;em&gt;Do you agree with the saying, "All's fair in love and war"?&lt;/em&gt; &lt;br&gt;
                            Here the   question is outside the quote. &lt;/td&gt;
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                            &lt;td&gt;&lt;strong&gt;NOTE&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
                            &lt;td&gt;Only
one ending punctuation mark is used with quotation marks. Also, the
stronger punctuation mark wins. Therefore, no period after &lt;em&gt;war&lt;/em&gt; is used. &lt;/td&gt;
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                            &lt;td rowspan="2"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Rule 3 &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
                            &lt;td colspan="2"&gt;When
you have a question outside quoted material AND inside quoted material,
use only one question mark and place it inside the &lt;br&gt;
                            quotation mark. &lt;/td&gt;
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                            &lt;td&gt;Example&lt;/td&gt;
                            &lt;td&gt;&lt;em&gt;Did she say, "May I go?"&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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                            &lt;td rowspan="2"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Rule 4 &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
                            &lt;td colspan="2"&gt;Use single quotation marks for quotes within quotes. Note that the period goes   inside all quote marks. &lt;/td&gt;
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                            &lt;td&gt;Example&lt;/td&gt;
                            &lt;td&gt;&lt;em&gt;He said, "Danea said, 'Do not treat me that way.'" &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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                            &lt;td rowspan="3"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Rule 5 &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
                            &lt;td colspan="2"&gt;Use quotation marks to set off a direct quotation only. &lt;/td&gt;
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                            &lt;td rowspan="2"&gt;Examples&lt;/td&gt;
                            &lt;td&gt;&lt;em&gt;"When will you be here?" he asked. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
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                            &lt;td&gt;&lt;em&gt;He asked when you will be there.&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/td&gt;
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                            &lt;td&gt;&lt;b&gt;Rule 6 &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
                            &lt;td&gt;Do
not use quotation marks with quoted material that is more than three
lines in length. Introduce the quotation with a colon and leave a blank
line above and below the quoted material. Single space the quoted
material. Some style manuals say to indent one-half inch on both the
left and right margins; others say to indent only on the left margin.
Quotation marks are not used.&lt;/td&gt;
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                            &lt;td rowspan="2"&gt;&lt;b&gt;Rule 7 &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;
                            &lt;td colspan="2"&gt;When
you are quoting something that has a spelling or grammar mistake or
presents material in a confusing way, insert the term &lt;em&gt;sic&lt;/em&gt; in italics   and enclose it in brackets. &lt;em&gt;Sic&lt;/em&gt; means, "This is the way the original   &lt;br&gt;
                            material was." &lt;/td&gt;
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                            &lt;td&gt;Example&lt;/td&gt;
                            &lt;td&gt;&lt;em&gt;She wrote, "I would rather die then [sic] be seen wearing the same outfit as   my sister has on."&lt;/em&gt; &lt;br&gt;
                            Should be &lt;em&gt;than&lt;/em&gt;, not &lt;em&gt;then&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Are these quotes correct punctuated?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheseQuotesCorrectPunctuated/zclzm/post.htm#430707</link><pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 12:01:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:430707</guid><dc:creator>Feebs11</dc:creator><description>If it dialogue, I would insert a comma after says, but where, as in your example, it is quoting what someone says, I would omit it.&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: period following a quoted material?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PeriodFollowingQuotedMaterial/zcvdg/post.htm#428644</link><pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:37:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:428644</guid><dc:creator>Feebs11</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Anonymous wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Would it be, "I was a contestant on "Who Wants to be a Millionare?".&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I'm asking if the period following the sentence is nessacary in both AP and "universally accepted" style. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is correct. &lt;br&gt;Firstly, it is the title of a programme and the question mark is a part of the title, so you need the full stop after in any case.&amp;nbsp; Secondly, when quoting a piece of text which ends with a question mark or an exclamation mark, the same situation applies. Generally full stops and commas are omitted from the end of quotations.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: proofread please</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ProofreadPlease/vxdbq/post.htm#403766</link><pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 23:49:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:403766</guid><dc:creator>Feebs11</dc:creator><description>In dialogue, punctuation goes inside the quotation marks: "I know," he replied, "but I got lost."&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Quoting titles - either underline, or italicize, or put into quotation marks.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You need to go through and check - there are many missing quotation marks and some missing apostrophes. Why do you put quotation marks round [Cara said]?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In your second passage, you have over-punctuated. Most of these sentences do not need commas.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: use of comma in &amp;quot;what do you mean&amp;quot;</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/UseOfCommaInWhatDoYouMean/vnkmb/post.htm#401048</link><pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:43:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:401048</guid><dc:creator>SJ88</dc:creator><description>i agree on that, but you see, that's cos you are directly quoting him.&lt;br&gt;what if you are not?&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Transitional words and phrases fall into this category.</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TransitionalWordsPhrasesFallInto-Category/vcwqm/post.htm</link><pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 22:38:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:346506</guid><dc:creator>Jackson6612</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;I'm quoting from a certain grammar book:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000080&gt;Parenthetical Expression:&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000080&gt;Use a comma to set off expressions which interrupt the flow of the sentence.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000080&gt;&amp;gt; If it were up to me, however, the trip would be cancelled.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000080&gt;&amp;gt; Mary Ann, as you know, has offered to baby-sit.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000080&gt;&amp;gt; Jackie, on the other hand, has refused to pitch in.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000080&gt;Transitional words and phrases fall into this category.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000080&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;What are &lt;EM&gt;transitional words and phrases&lt;/EM&gt;?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>