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Re: same conditional?

Anonymous — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 06:14:21 GMT

Thank you so much. This is your response in a thread named "conditional."

You said:

You have another post on nearly the same subject. See my answer there.

They are mixed conditionals, and they are very awkward.

If I am not mistaken, you seem to have said the examples given there are mixed condtionals and the examples there and here seem to be pretty similar in terms of structures. Why did you say "wrong" here and said "very awkward" there? I think it is a common knowledge that a mixed conditional can be established by mixing an imagined (could it be a real event??) in the past with its present result.

Also, I saw something like this, is this correct? I think it is rare to the modal "would" in the if-clause.

Take it if you would like to have it.

Why not make it a first conditional like this?

Take it if you like to have it.

Re: conditional

CalifJim — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 05:12:08 GMT

You have another post on nearly the same subject. See my answer there.

They are mixed conditionals, and they are very awkward.

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Anonymous — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:41:48 GMT

Hi,

Is this a mixed conditional where a present result is predicated upon a hypothetical past action?

I would apologize if there had been a sign of uneasiness on my part toward you at the meeting.

Is this somewhat the same as this?

I would apologize if I had sown a sign of uneasiness toward you at the meeting.

If yes, would you say both are a mixed conditional?

Re: How to transform this sentences

Tanit — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:58:43 GMT

Thanks for your feedback, Barb.
As for no. 8, students are generally expected to write standard types of conditionals, so I guess Anex' sentence would be the correct choice in a test.
I posted the one with the mixed conditional because I was wondering if native speakers would perceive any difference between them. My idea was that type 3 (If I had been a good cook...) might imply that in the meantime I learnt how to cook, while the mixed type (If I were a good cook...) might stress the fact that I did not make any improvement (still not a good cook while speaking).
However, you write that you don't perceive much difference, so I was probably on the wrong track.

Re: have/has/were

Mister Micawber — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 05:28:46 GMT

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1-- Were is the SUBJUNCTIVE form of the verb, here used in a mixed conditional sentence (more crefully written, it should read If I were there, I would do that.

2-- Your sentence is wrong. It should read: Doesn't Vincent have any homework? The singular '-s' is in 'doesn't'.
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Re: tense difference

Anonymous — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:08:57 GMT

Thank you. I think my version is called a mixed condtionl with present-time implications, whereas Mr. M's correctional effort could be called a type 3 conditional.

My original writing, I believe, dealt with a person about to graduate from middle schoo. I think I wrote how wonderful it was, the teachers and students included. Then, I thought about Sue, then came to this:

Mr. M's correction:

I remember Sue, who transferred to another school just two months before this graduation date. Had she stayed in our school , she would have been expecting to graduate in a month like me.

My orginal sentences:

I remember Sue, who transferred to another school just two months before this graduation date. Had she stayed in our school , she would be expecting to graduate in a month like me.

I feel my version is OK, possibly better, since it carries a present-day implication as a mixed conditional, like "If I had studied harder at high school, I would be expecting to a good college now."

Re: If it would make you feel more comfortable...

Huevos — Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:11:47 GMT

Avangi
I think your second example is a tense problem.

It's fine. It's just a mixed conditional. It is stating with certainty that he will submit to the conditional clause if the "if" clause is fulfilled. In the "if" clause though "would" is used to show a lower possibility or lack of belief that the clause will be fulfilled.

Re: if he committed

Ant_222 — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:38:26 GMT

Yes, although it is a mixed conditional. This phrase might be said by judge, for example. Some crime was committed in the past, whereas the hypothetical punishment is in the future.

Long questions on conditional sentences

Anonymous — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:30:36 GMT

Hi,
1.How are they different? I think the first one is mixed conditional and the second one is a third conditional sentence. Both seem to contain the notion of unreality (hypothetical?) to the unlikely past actions
1.I were rich, I would have bought the house when it was on sale.
2. If I had been rich, I would have bought the house when it was on sale.

2. How would I know if any of these need to be second condtional (subjunctive??) sentences?

I got these sentence bits from the Google book search (I hope I type them right) :
1. If I was baptized the right way, God would be gracious. -- I think this shoud be the subjunctive because I sense unreality (or hypotherical) in the sentence, thus shoud be: If I were baptized ...
2. If I was restless during the service, she would give me something to eat. -- I think this is OK as a backshift of the first conditional, but as I think what CalifJim has said (might have said?) (according my unreliable vague recollection), most of the times, people would write this kind of structural sentence like "If I were restless during the service, she would give me something to eat.
3. If I was at all curious -- which I am not -- I might askyou what you you're doing in such a house -- Ditto as no. 2's argument: I think most likely people would have written: If I were at all curious -- which I am not -- I might ask you what you're doing in such a house."

Re: Conditional or not?

CalifJim — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:13:15 GMT

1, They began asking us several months ago if we would stay. Not a conditional at all. if/whether we would stay is an indirect question.
2. I said I would stay if I could do two shows a night.-- looks to be a type 2 conditional (unreal) Yes. Type 2.
3. If there would be a church in this neighborhood, it would be ideal. -- looks to be a type 2 conditional (unreal) If there were a church ... Type 2.
4. If there were a Burnham wood in ***, they probably would have shipped it. -- looks to be a type 2 conditional (unreal) Mixed conditional. 2 and 3.