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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Conversations tag:Past tenses' matching tags 'Conversations' and 'Past tenses'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aConversations+tag%3aPast+tenses&amp;tag=Conversations,Past+tenses&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Conversations tag:Past tenses' matching tags 'Conversations' and 'Past tenses'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Debug Build: 3110.25895)</generator><item><title>Re: she's talking about or talked about</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ShesTalkingAboutTalkedAbout/gdlxz/post.htm#519287</link><pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 18:40:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:519287</guid><dc:creator>New2grammar</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Maybe the purpose of my second example isn&amp;#39;t clear. I was just trying to emphasize the fact that the conversation took place in the past. So when referring to the past exchanges, we should use the past tense. Similarly, the act of the nurse telling the patient was in the past so when one refers to the act, logically, the past tense should be used like &amp;quot;My dog bit me&amp;quot; and not&amp;quot; My dog is biting me&amp;quot;. I&amp;#39;m not sure if my explanation makes any sense to you. The focus is the timeline.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: "I would be surprised..."</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IWouldBeSurprised/3/gckxx/Post.htm#514094</link><pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:19:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:514094</guid><dc:creator>New2grammar</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;CJ, I&amp;#39;m not quite sure I get your explanation. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;MH has a very good point but I remember you said a long time ago (probably a year) that in cases like this, native&lt;br /&gt;speakers tend to use the past tense throughout. I&amp;#39;ve been trying to apply that but&lt;br /&gt;I have to say, MH&amp;#39;s view makes more sense and more natural to me.&lt;br /&gt;Could you please &amp;#39;defend&amp;#39; native speakers&amp;#39; tendency?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;An example that I always keep in mind as reference is&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;lt;A is a double agent and is tipping her handler&amp;gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;handler: If Kate knew we WERE having this conversation, she would have us killed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: taking out the windows of the car</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TakingWindows/3/gccqc/Post.htm#511804</link><pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 21:46:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:511804</guid><dc:creator>Goodman</dc:creator><description>&lt;em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;Hi Ant222,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;My English skill is not in the âgrammarianâ class but I will give it my best attempt to explain it. It may not may not be agreeable with the experts.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;In many instances during casual conversations, we can bet by with simple past tense and no one will flag you for errors. However, to be grammatically correct, the right tense should be followed and observed consistently. &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Besides using present perfect to connect events from the past to present, sometimes, we will see past reference combined into a present perfect structure. i.e. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;John seems to &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:blue;"&gt;have forgotten&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt; who &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:blue;"&gt;helped him 2 years ago&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt; when his lost his job. This is perfectly legal.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;General simple present statement with timeless reference.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;I &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:blue;"&gt;have never seen&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt; movies as bad as this one!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;I &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:blue;"&gt;have tried many times&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt; to quit smoking but failed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;With time reference, past to present:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;Jane has changed 3 jobs since the beginning of this year.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;She hasnât made any car payment for the past 6 months. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;If you already understood the above, just disregard my post. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: tenses</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Tenses/zqhjq/post.htm#498405</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 09:34:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:498405</guid><dc:creator>New2grammar</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;em&gt;In fact, it&amp;#39;s probably a mixture of both - they are still trying to solve the problem so some elements are past and some are present.Maybe he still thinks, and they still resent, but his communication with them is past.&lt;/em&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;GG, thanks for the reply. I like this comment of yours because that&amp;#39;s what I think too. For example, the feeling &amp;#39;resent&amp;#39; may still persist&amp;nbsp;even though the communication is past. So I believe the past tense version probably can&amp;nbsp;use the present tense &amp;#39;resent&amp;#39; to emphasize their&amp;nbsp;continuing feelings toward their step father. Learners are advised to stick to one tense and I probably understand why- It&amp;#39;s easier to follow and sounds more formal. However, native speakers don&amp;#39;t speak in one tense and maybe that&amp;#39;s the reason you sound pretentious&amp;nbsp;or&amp;nbsp;too formal in a casual conversation&amp;nbsp;if you speak in that manner. Of course this is the least I should worry about as I still have other major grammatical problems to fix.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the reply, GG. It helps me understand grammar better.&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Difference between Say and Said</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferenceBetweenSaid/zxnbp/post.htm#490176</link><pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 06:20:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:490176</guid><dc:creator>New2grammar</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;This is a tricky one and I personally think there&amp;#39;s no right or wrong, at least in most cases. It depends on the time frame the speaker has in mind most of the time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, I have some preferences. In everyday conversation, if I use the past tense said, I wouldn&amp;#39;t quote the speech, instead I would change the speech tense to the past tense. For example,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mary: What time will you be home?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Kate: I&amp;#39;ll be home before dinner.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jerry, guess what the first thing my mom asked when I told her I was going out with you?&amp;nbsp; She asked what time I would be home. (I dont think &amp;#39;said&amp;#39; fits well, &amp;#39;ask&amp;#39; is better)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If I want to quote, either tense is OK with me though I&amp;#39;d prefer the present &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m not a native. You might want to confirm with the natives&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: was or is</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/WasOrIs/zlrcb/post.htm#471683</link><pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 00:02:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:471683</guid><dc:creator>MrPedantic</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;Hello FH,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1. While waiting in line, the man told me that the nacho stand around the corner is great.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. While waiting in line, the man told me that the nacho stand around the corner was great.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Both forms are common. The present tense "is" in #1 suggests that the nacho stand continues to be "great", as it was at the time of the conversation. The past tense "was" in #2 is in accord with the past tense "told", and reflects the fact that the conversation took place in the past.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;(Although "was" may open the door to ambiguity, as you say, "is" opens the door to misleadingness, as the speaker only knows that the nacho stand was considered "great" at the time of the conversation. It may have deteriorated sadly since then...)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Best wishes,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;MrP&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: HOW START A QUESTION?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/HowStartAQuestion/vqxlv/post.htm#416929</link><pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:29:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:416929</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>Those words are left out only in &lt;u&gt;very&lt;/u&gt; casual conversation between friends.&amp;nbsp; I don't recommend it.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
In the case of the first, the past tense is missing if you leave out &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt;, so if you say &lt;i&gt;You know how ...?&lt;/i&gt; it will be interpreted as &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Do&lt;/b&gt; you know how ...?&lt;/i&gt;, not as &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Did&lt;/b&gt; you know how ...?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
CJ&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: I was hoping</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IWasHoping/vqbpn/post.htm#413249</link><pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 18:12:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:413249</guid><dc:creator>Yankee</dc:creator><description>.&lt;br&gt;The use of the past tense adds "distance" and that makes expressions such as "I was hoping" sound a bit more tentative and polite.&lt;br&gt;I would not say that it is necessarily only "formal" since I think this sort of usage of past tense forms occurs even in very informal conversation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Page 1: Please answer the following questions...</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PageAnswerFollowingQuestions/vqrnl/post.htm#412924</link><pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 04:01:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:412924</guid><dc:creator>Wanwo</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Jackson6612 wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;font color="#000080"&gt;The TOEFL is produced and administered by Educational Testing Service, a professional test &lt;strong&gt;&lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;development&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; organization in Princeton, New Jersey, USA.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Couldn't the above be written as:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;The TOEFL is produced and administered by Educational Testing Service, a professional test &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;developing&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/font&gt;organization in Princeton, New Jersey, USA?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&lt;font color="#000080"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt; No. The organization's business is 'professional test development'. You can't say developing in that context.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&lt;font color="#000080"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;2:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; In the Writing section, students write in response to two questions. One question is about a &lt;strong&gt;&lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;reading&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; passage and a lecture, and the other question is about a general topic.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Is &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;reading &lt;/font&gt;being used as an adjective in the above sentence?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That's a good question. I think you might be right but I'm not sure. Sorry not much help here.&lt;br&gt;&lt;font color="#000080"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#000080"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;3:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; The content of the new TOEFL test reflects the language that is used in real academic settings. The content is based on a collection of spoken and written language that Educational Testing Service &lt;strong&gt;&lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;obtained&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; from educational institutions throughout the United States. The spoken language &lt;strong&gt;&lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;came&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; from lectures, class discussions, office hours, study groups, and service interactions such as conversations at the library. The written language &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;was&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt; collected from textbooks and other course materials.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Couldn't the above be written as:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;The content of the new TOEFL test reflects the language that is used in real academic settings. The content is based on a collection of spoken and written language that Educational Testing Service &lt;strong&gt;&lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;obtains&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; from educational institutions throughout the United States. The spoken language &lt;strong&gt;&lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;come&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; from lectures, class discussions, office hours, study groups, and service interactions such as conversations at the library. The written language&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;is&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; collected from textbooks and other course materials.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Change 'come' to 'comes' and yes, it can be re-written as you have done. What you are doing is putting it all in the present tense. But it may be better to express it in the past tense. A new TOEFL test has been created. It's finished. So how it was created concerns things that happened in the past. &lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;</description></item><item><title>Why Did He Not Use The Past Tense Here?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PastTense/vpxbj/post.htm</link><pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 23:16:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:411851</guid><dc:creator>The Graduate</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;Hi there,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Please take a look at this conversation quoted from Seinfeld (A Comdy TV Series):&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Cosmo Kramer&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;: The bus is outta control. So I grab him by the collar, I take him out of the seat, I get behind the wheel, and now I'm driving the bus. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;B&gt;Jerry&lt;/B&gt;: Wow. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;B&gt;George Costanza&lt;/B&gt;: You're Batman. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;B&gt;Cosmo Kramer&lt;/B&gt;: Yeah, yeah, I am Batman. Then the mugger, he comes to and he starts choking me. So I'm fighting him off with one hand and I kept driving the bus with the other, ya know. Then I managed to open up the door and I kicked him out the door, ya know, with my foot, ya know, at the next stop. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;B&gt;Jerry&lt;/B&gt;: You kept making all the stops? &lt;BR&gt;&lt;B&gt;Cosmo Kramer&lt;/B&gt;: Well, people kept ringing the bell.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The question is .. why did &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Cosmo Kramer&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;not use the past tense to describe the situation he faced and instead he used the simple present and present contineous tense?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Please .. Correct Any Mistakes You Find In My Writing As Well .. Thanks In Advance &lt;img src="/emoticons/emotion-1.gif" alt="Smile [:)]" /&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>