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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Dates tag:Present tenses' matching tags 'Dates' and 'Present tenses'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aDates+tag%3aPresent+tenses&amp;tag=Dates,Present+tenses&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Dates tag:Present tenses' matching tags 'Dates' and 'Present tenses'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3168.38637)</generator><item><title>Re: tense difference</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TenseDifference/glqmq/post.htm#560013</link><pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:07:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:560013</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>Hi,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Can any one confirm whether this I wrote&amp;nbsp;is a correct mixed condition with&amp;nbsp;present-time meaning and goes well with the present tense of the sentence it is preceding? Thank you&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I remember Sue, who transferred to another school just two months before this graduation date. &lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;Had she stayed in our school , she would be expecting to graduate in a month like me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: tense checking</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TenseChecking/glmbj/post.htm#558663</link><pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:10:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:558663</guid><dc:creator>Grammar Geek</dc:creator><description>&amp;nbsp;I should have edited the post - they are clearly related, but the first three seemed unrelated to each other.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I broke them into each line so I could comment one by one.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;I think the probable date I noted for his visit is one month from
the day of writing&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;b&gt;You wrote&lt;/b&gt;, &amp;quot;If I sleep one more day, I will be meeting my nephew who will be visiting us from the Phillipines.&amp;quot; &lt;b&gt;That sounds like he is coming tomorrow to me. How could I guess that it&amp;#39;s actually another month away? You wrote that &lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;he&amp;#39;s coming home &amp;quot;for a month vacation.&amp;quot; It sounds like he&amp;#39;s coming tomorrow, and staying for one month. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/b&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;and I think I also have noted that the probable
period&amp;nbsp;of completion will last two months.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;What made you think the
writing gives out an idea that I will try to finish the project in one
day?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;You said that he comes tomorrow, and you are starting today - so naturally that sounds like you&amp;#39;ll do one month&amp;#39;s worth of work in one day. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt; &lt;/b&gt;You changed the tense of the last sentence to&amp;nbsp;present
perfect; (semicolon OK?)&amp;nbsp;but I don&amp;#39;t think a past is wrong but a
present tense is better because the choice made is current and
currently related.&lt;/i&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Yes, you made the decision quite recently. The present tense is appropriate. If you used the past, the entire thing should be written in a past tense, not the present.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Where did you want to use the semi-colon?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: tense checking</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TenseChecking/glmbr/post.htm#558654</link><pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:39:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:558654</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>Thank you so much.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How would you divide this type of writing (diary or reflection piece?) into paragraphs, especially when the content of a possible paragraph is two or thre sentences long?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You asked:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;I am starting to work on my two-month project on &lt;strike&gt;today&lt;/strike&gt; &lt;strong&gt;this&lt;/strong&gt; afternoon&lt;strike&gt;;&lt;/strike&gt;&lt;strong&gt;,&lt;/strong&gt; and when my nephew gets here, I will probably have finished half the project.&lt;strong&gt;Tenses are okay. You can finish half of a two-month project in one day?&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think the probable date I noted for his visit is one month from the day of writing and I think I also have noted that the probable period&amp;nbsp;of completion will last two months. What made you think the writing gives out an idea that I will try to finish the project in one day?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You changed the tense of the last sentence to&amp;nbsp;present perfect; (semicolon OK?)&amp;nbsp;but I don&amp;#39;t think a past is wrong but a present tense is better because the choice made is current and currently related.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;Last sentence that you made a change:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Yes, I &lt;strong&gt;have &lt;/strong&gt;made the choice and that is to finish the project on time.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: would</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Would/gjdqz/post.htm#546487</link><pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 03:07:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:546487</guid><dc:creator>Tuongvan</dc:creator><description>Thank you very much Grammar Geek,but to be frank ,I&amp;#39;m still confused aout the use of&amp;#39; Would&amp;#39; here.Can we use WILL instead of WOULD in #1 ?and&amp;nbsp; why don&amp;#39;t they use WILL in # 2?Similarly your sentence is &amp;quot; If the candidate &lt;strong&gt;has&lt;/strong&gt; such proficiency, it &lt;strong&gt;would &lt;/strong&gt;be preferable .Why not &amp;quot;WILL be preferrable&amp;quot; ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Normally my grammar books say &amp;quot; If + present tense , WILL +verb&amp;nbsp;.For example :If I &lt;strong&gt;am&lt;/strong&gt; free I &lt;strong&gt;will&lt;/strong&gt; go out&amp;nbsp;.&amp;nbsp; It seems to me WOULD in the original #1 and #2 here refers to something uncertain in the present and future.&lt;br /&gt;Could you help me use the modal WOULD exactly?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Best Wishes</description></item><item><title>Re: Felt like...</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/FeltLike/gvddq/post.htm#521712</link><pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 15:42:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:521712</guid><dc:creator>Avangi</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Mad,&amp;nbsp; With this scant context, it could be taken either way.&amp;nbsp; It&amp;#39;s pretty confusing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Friends&amp;quot; is plural. Was she paired with one particular guy?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whom is she talking to?&amp;nbsp; Her date??&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Felt&amp;quot; is past tense, but &amp;quot;is&amp;quot; is present tense.&amp;nbsp; Is she still on the date with this guy (or guys) (or girls) when she makes this statement? (like maybe at the very end of it?)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is Neil her main squeeze?&amp;nbsp; (Sorry, my eyes are getting bad.)&amp;nbsp; Is Nell her main squeeze?&amp;nbsp; Who the h--- is Nell?&amp;nbsp; (Is Lana a guy?)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyway, I&amp;#39;m assuming &amp;quot;tonight&amp;quot; is a noun rather than an adverb.&amp;nbsp; &amp;quot;I had to explain &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;about&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; tonight.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; Not, &amp;quot;Tonight, I felt like I had to explain to Nell.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s still &amp;quot;tonight&amp;quot; when she makes the&amp;nbsp;statement.&amp;nbsp; It sounds like Nell is not present.&amp;nbsp; If she has already explained to Nell, she must have covered a lot of ground.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But on the other hand, we don&amp;#39;t know what it is she wants to explain.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Did she feel she had to explain &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;what happened tonight&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, or did she&amp;nbsp;feel (in the past) that she had to explain that she was planning to go on a date without him/her??&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If she&amp;#39;s talking to the guy and they&amp;#39;re still on the date, maybe it&amp;#39;s, &amp;quot;I felt like I had to explain to Nell, but, you know what?&amp;nbsp; I don&amp;#39;t feel that way any longer.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; Maybe she&amp;#39;s just telling him that she feels wierd about having felt obligated to tell Nell all her private business.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Or maybe she&amp;#39;s warning &amp;quot;him&amp;quot; that this &amp;quot;date&amp;quot; is no secret from Nell, because she felt obligated to tell her/him.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You&amp;#39;re asking me, &amp;quot;Did Lana explain to Nell about tonight?&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; I&amp;#39;ll tell you.&amp;nbsp; I don&amp;#39;t know.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: I thought a spider is/was an insect</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ThoughtSpiderInsect/2/gcbgr/Post.htm#511343</link><pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 18:25:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:511343</guid><dc:creator>Grammar Geek</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;If you&amp;#39;ll note the time of post, Jim and I posted a minute apart, clearly writing our posts at the same time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&amp;nbsp;thought *only* simple present is (oops, should be was) correct, but I thought wrong.&amp;nbsp; I now know that both present tense and past tense are possible&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;NO! &amp;quot;&lt;em&gt;I thought...&amp;quot; &lt;/em&gt;REQUIRES past. Present tense is NOT possible!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It doesn&amp;#39;t have to turn out to be false.It can turn out that what you thought came true.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A: You&amp;#39;re so smart to have brought your umbrella. Can I share it?&lt;br /&gt;B: Of course you can. Even though the forecast didn&amp;#39;t call for it, I thought it might rain. I&amp;#39;m sure glad I brought it!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A: Why didn&amp;#39;t you want to date me in high school?&lt;br /&gt;B: Back when we were in high school, I thought you were a jerk. Now I KNOW you are a jerk. Go away.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You avoid the confusion by &lt;em&gt;always&lt;/em&gt; using the past after &amp;quot;I thought,&amp;quot; (unless it&amp;#39;s an internal dialogue as Jim suggests above, which is NOT part of typical narrative writing).&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Need help on correct sentences.</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/CorrectSentences/zxgcn/post.htm#488168</link><pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:29:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:488168</guid><dc:creator>Goodman</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font&gt;Hi LW,&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;sup&gt;I am afraid the teacherâs comment was valid. When we use present tense, we are inferring something that regularly happens as a routine. &lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;i.e. &lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span&gt;The mailman usually delivers the mails around &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;11 oâclock&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt; &lt;span style="COLOR:green;"&gt;everyday.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;sup&gt;I go to the grocery &lt;span style="COLOR:green;"&gt;stores twice a week.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;sup&gt;We need a &lt;span style="COLOR:green;"&gt;tense qualifier&lt;/span&gt; to validate the tense. &lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#444444;"&gt;He wrote&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:blue;"&gt;: I bring my pet to school &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:red;"&gt;for show and tell&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:red;"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#444444;"&gt; &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Letâs not be concerned with &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#444444;"&gt;â&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:red;"&gt;for show and tell&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#444444;"&gt;â.&lt;strong&gt; &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;There is no time qualifier here. If the sentence were: â I brought my petto school yesterdayâ or : I will bring my pet to school &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:green;"&gt;tomorrow&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#444444;"&gt; to show my friendsâ then they were both correct.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#444444;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;* Title: My Friend &lt;br /&gt;He wrote: My friend&amp;#39;s name is Devan. I fish with him. &lt;br /&gt;Teacher said &amp;#39;I fish with him&amp;#39; is incorrect, may not use present tense. Should be &amp;#39;go fishing&amp;#39; or &amp;#39;fished.&amp;#39; But I think, &amp;#39;I fish with him&amp;#39; is a correct sentence. &lt;br /&gt;Please help.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#444444;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#444444;"&gt;âFishâ is rarely used alone as a verb for the act of fishing. &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;So âI fish&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;with himâ, although may sound correct, it is not really &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;correct.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#444444;"&gt;Usually â&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:blue;"&gt; go fishingâ &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;is the corret term.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Therefore, the sentence sounds more correct if we change it to âDevin is my friend and I go fishing with him &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:green;"&gt;every weekendâ.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:teal;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;Again, verb tense needs a time qualifier.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#444444;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Sequence of tenses (#4)</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/SequenceOfTenses4/zwwxr/post.htm</link><pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 13:03:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:459459</guid><dc:creator>Gori</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;Could anybody please help me understand why the following underlined parts are kept as a present tense, not a past tense? In my understanding, if they are followed by the rules of the "sequence of tenses," they should be a past tense, no?? &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Example 1: It would be unforgivable if this &lt;U&gt;turns&lt;/U&gt; out to be true.&lt;BR&gt;Example 2: He told the directors he would sue them if the company&lt;U&gt; takes&lt;/U&gt; anti-takeover measures.&lt;BR&gt;Example 3: She said that she would not run if that political party &lt;U&gt;fields&lt;/U&gt; its own candidate.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If the above unerlined parts were changed to the past tense, how would they sound?&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: wish clauses</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/WishClauses/3/zcvbd/Post.htm#428607</link><pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:52:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:428607</guid><dc:creator>Goodman</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Yoong Liat wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;Hi Goodman&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&lt;B&gt;You wrote: &lt;I&gt;I have been labeled and called by many descriptions, hinted being âIgnorantâ is the first ... &lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/B&gt;I'm not hinting that you're ignorant. I say that if &lt;B&gt;a learner &lt;/B&gt;tells me "informal" means "wrong", I'll understand that he says so because he is &lt;B&gt;ignorant.&lt;/B&gt;&amp;nbsp; But you are not a learner.&amp;nbsp; You're one of the members who &lt;B&gt;have a good command of English.&lt;/B&gt; So that's why I say it's not correct for you&amp;nbsp; to say that a usage, which is classified as "informal", is wrong. &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I've reproduced below what Michael Swan has to say about "I wish I was ... " and "I wish it wasn't ..." and let the members decide whether you're right to say "I wish it was not raining" or "I wish it wasn't raining" is a wrong usage.&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;B&gt;We can use 'wish' to express regrets - to say that we would like things to be different. We use a past tense with a present meaning in this case.&lt;BR&gt;I wish I &lt;/B&gt;&lt;B&gt;was better-looking.&lt;BR&gt;I wish it &lt;/B&gt;&lt;B&gt;wasn't raining.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;B&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In a formal style, we can use 'were' instead of 'was' after 'I wish'.&lt;BR&gt;I wish I &lt;/B&gt;&lt;B&gt;were better-looking.&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;(&lt;B&gt;&lt;I&gt;Basic English Usage&lt;/I&gt; by Michael Swan)&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/B&gt;Best wishes.&lt;B&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt; &lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Liat,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;With our differences in point of view, I appreciate your reply.&amp;nbsp; For all intents and an purposes, I am still a learner on a different level but I perhaps have the advantage being in a completely English environment and therefore, I may appear to have better command. That said, I do feel there is a certain slight inconsistency among all the different English websites, particularly on the subjunctive. There should not be any argument that âIf I wereâ or âI wish I wereâ is a subjunctive mood. The difference&amp;nbsp;of&amp;nbsp;the agruement really lies in the defining of the rules and the mood expressed in the senstence.&amp;nbsp; The early website quoted âI wish I wasâ as informal. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In reality, after reading this article, that is indeed incorrect.&amp;nbsp;The bottom line, " I wish&amp;nbsp;I was" is against the subjunctive ruels.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Take a look at the explanation on this website then you may come to agree with what I said in my earlier threads. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;

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&lt;P&gt;Confusingly enough, in the "self test", some of of the answers are considered "acceptable" or "informal" by some. I should hope that this piece will settle all questions about indicative and subjunctive moods.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;The Subjunctive Mood 
&lt;P&gt;Examine the verbs in each of the following sentences: 
&lt;P&gt;1. If Harrison were chosen to be the next chief executive officer of the corporation, several controversial hiring practices would change. 
&lt;P&gt;2. If I were you, I would increase my weekly contribution to the company-sponsored retirement fund. 
&lt;P&gt;3. I wish that his report were longer. 
&lt;P&gt;4. We recommend that the trip be postponed because of violence in the region. 
&lt;P&gt;5. The finance department requests that he submit updated budget projections each month. 
&lt;P&gt;All the above sentences are correct. 
&lt;P&gt;Two terms apply to the mood of English verbs: indicative and subjunctive. An indicative verb makes a statement that is factual, whereas a verb in the subjunctive mood is used to indicate a situation or condition that is hypothetical, doubtful, or conditional. 
&lt;P&gt;In the indicative mood, we would never write "Harrison were," "I were," "report were," "trip be," or "he submit," but these verbs are correct in the examples above because each of the sentences is written in the subjunctive mood; that is, in every case, the sentence is describing a situation that is hypothetical or conditional: 
&lt;P&gt;1. Harrison is not now the C.E.O., but hypothetically he could be chosen for that position. The conditional nature of the position is suggested by the word &lt;I&gt;if&lt;/I&gt;. 
&lt;P&gt;2. Again, as the word &lt;I&gt;if&lt;/I&gt; makes clear, I am not, in fact, you. So once again the situation is hypothetical and conditional: I would save more only under the condition that I became you. 
&lt;P&gt;3. His report is not, in fact, longer, so the sentence speaks of a hypothetical situation. 
&lt;P&gt;4. The trip is not currently postponed, so the subjunctive mood is appropriate to suggest a possibility, not an actuality. 
&lt;P&gt;5. He is not currently submitting reports monthly, so we use the subjunctive mood to discuss the possibility--not the actuality--of his doing so. 
&lt;P&gt;For all verbs except &lt;I&gt;to be&lt;/I&gt;, the present subjunctive mood is most often made by omitting the characteristic &lt;I&gt;s&lt;/I&gt; ending on verbs with third-person singular subjects. Thus, whereas in the indicative mood we would write "man leaves," in the subjunctive mood we would omit the &lt;I&gt;s&lt;/I&gt; on the verb &lt;I&gt;leave&lt;/I&gt;: "The judge insisted that the man not leave town." For the verb &lt;I&gt;to be&lt;/I&gt;, we simply use &lt;I&gt;be&lt;/I&gt; for all present tense subjunctive mood verbs and &lt;I&gt;were&lt;/I&gt; for all past tense forms, regardless of whether the subject is singular or plural. 
&lt;P&gt;&lt;I&gt;The Columbia Guide to Standard American English&lt;/I&gt; (New York: MJF Books, 1993) points out that while many subjunctive-mood phrases are commonly used in ordinary speech--"if I were you," "if need be," "far be it from me," and so on--strict use of the subjunctive mood is rare, even in the most formal speaking and writing situations (243). Very few people would write, for example, "If he arrive on time, we will have dinner before the show." However, if a form of the verb &lt;I&gt;to be&lt;/I&gt; were used in that sentence, all polished writers would agree that the subjunctive is necessary: "If he were [not was] to arrive on time, we could have dinner before the show." 
&lt;P&gt;&lt;I&gt;The Harbrace College Handbook&lt;/I&gt; (13th edition) lists other common, fixed expressions that are stated in the subjunctive mood: "so be it," "be that as it may," "as it were," and "God bless you" (99-100). 
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;TEST YOURSELF &lt;BR&gt;Which of the following sentences need verbs in the subjunctive mood? &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;1. If I was Sam, I would hire an assistant now before the hiring freeze takes effect. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;2. The committee suggested that Dr. Jones is chosen as the next chief of staff. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;3. As August approaches, every school child wishes that his or her vacation was longer. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;4. It is critical that every potential donor gives blood during this shortage. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;ANSWERS &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;1. If I WERE Sam, I would hire an assistant now before the hiring freeze takes effect. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;2. The committee suggested that Dr. Jones BE chosen as the next chief of staff. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;3. As August approaches, every school child wishes that his or her vacation &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;WERE longer. This is&amp;nbsp;almost the exact sentence&amp;nbsp;identified as correct in your&amp;nbsp;past post. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;4. It is critical that every potential donor GIVE blood during this shortage&lt;/FONT&gt;. 
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: suitable tense</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/SuitableTense/vrmhh/post.htm#337678</link><pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 07:59:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:337678</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;"is growing" is better than&amp;nbsp;"has been growing"&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Sorry
to spoil your party, but this is just a matter of opinion.&amp;nbsp; I
think "has been growing" is better, and I would definitely have chosen
that.&amp;nbsp; I'm not comfortable with the
present tense there with "in modern times", i.e., "during the course of
past years extending into the present" and when a date in the 1800's is the
very next thing
mentioned.&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src="/emoticons/emotion-6.gif" alt="Sad [:(]" /&gt; &lt;br&gt;
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CJ&lt;br&gt;
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