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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Definite articles tag:Abbreviations' matching tags 'Definite articles' and 'Abbreviations'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aDefinite+articles+tag%3aAbbreviations&amp;tag=Definite+articles,Abbreviations&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Definite articles tag:Abbreviations' matching tags 'Definite articles' and 'Abbreviations'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3191.21962)</generator><item><title>Re: Worth...</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Worth/gxjpk/post.htm#572774</link><pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 12:41:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:572774</guid><dc:creator>Blink</dc:creator><description>Mister Micawber, I&amp;#39;ve got two more question to you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Which one of these two construction (is worth attention/is worthy of attention) is more frequently used?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Do we use the indefinite article before the abbreviation like (an) MBA essay or (a) GCSE coursework?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Many thanks.</description></item><item><title>Re: ABBREVIATIONS AND ARTICLES</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/AbbreviationsAndArticles/ghckr/post.htm#536265</link><pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:40:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:536265</guid><dc:creator>Mr Wordy</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;In cases like this, the definite article is required when the name is written out in full,&amp;nbsp;but it is in my view acceptable&amp;nbsp;to omit it before the abbreviation. So, yes, I think it&amp;#39;s fine to write:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;The&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;em&gt;Korean National&amp;nbsp;Tourism Organization (KNTO)&amp;nbsp;...&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And thereafter,&amp;nbsp;for example,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;KNTO operates tourist information centers.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;The KNTO&amp;quot; seems OK too, but&amp;nbsp;you should be consistent. You shouldn&amp;#39;t mix &amp;quot;the KNTO&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;KNTO&amp;quot;. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, with some well-known acronyms and abbreviations, conventions apply. For example, &amp;quot;the NATO&amp;quot; is wrong, even though in full it would be &amp;quot;The North Atlantic Treaty Organization&amp;quot;. On the other hand, &amp;quot;The United Nations&amp;quot; always keeps the article even when abbreviated: &amp;quot;the UN&amp;quot;. Without having studied this, I don&amp;#39;t know if there&amp;#39;s any logic here, or whether the conventions are just arbitrary and have to be learnt individually.&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>ABBREVIATIONS AND ARTICLES</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/AbbreviationsAndArticles/ghczl/post.htm</link><pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 08:33:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:536191</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>Hi,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is it common or correct to use the definite article before what looks to be the abbreviation of a govenment organization at one time and don&amp;#39;t use it at another time? I think for some government or non-government names, the definite article is put in consideration of a main noun/word.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don&amp;#39;t know this particular Korean organization exits currently or not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Korean National&amp;nbsp;Tourism Organization ... KNTO operates tourist information centers.</description></item><item><title>Re: ufo</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Ufo/vdjcn/post.htm#351471</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:38:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:351471</guid><dc:creator>Conchita57</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;Numbers 1 and 3 are correct.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Note that the abbreviation 'UFO' starts with a consonant &lt;U&gt;sound&lt;/U&gt;: &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;[&lt;a href="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/help/phonetics.htm" target="_blank" title="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/help/phonetics.htm"&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/21.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/j1.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/u1.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/03.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/02.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/e1.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/f1.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/11.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/a3.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/u2.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;/a&gt;].&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you say 'unidentified flying object', though, the indefinite article is 'an':&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;[&lt;a href="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/help/phonetics.htm" target="_blank" title="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/help/phonetics.htm"&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/21.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/v2.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/n1.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/02.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/a1.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/i2.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/11.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/d1.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/e1.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/n1.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/02.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/t1.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/i2.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/02.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/f1.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/a1.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/i2.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;IMG alt=Phonetic src="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/assets/phonetics/d1.gif" align=center border=0&gt;&lt;/a&gt;].&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: how would you write it?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/HowWouldYouWriteIt/dnbdr/post.htm#314772</link><pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 11:43:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:314772</guid><dc:creator>Feebs11</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Believer wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have a sentence I think I&amp;nbsp;saw written somewhere.&amp;nbsp;How would you rewrite it so it is correct? I think it is incorrect.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Our&amp;nbsp;company has a children's center for our employees &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;[who are]&lt;/font&gt; in need of child care.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;I can't see a problem with this sentence otherwise. The indefinite article is fine in this context&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think when you have a name in the genitive, normally the article refers to the noun that immediately follows it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;I have a student who has graduated from a CET's course.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here, let us assume CET&amp;nbsp;stands for &lt;u&gt;(the??)&lt;/u&gt; Certified Electrical Technician and for the above sentence, &lt;em&gt;a &lt;/em&gt;modifies the abbreviation 'CET', &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;doesn't&lt;/font&gt; it?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;No - it relates to "course"; CET is merely used adjectively to identify the course. The course is unspecified apart from being &lt;b&gt;a CET course&lt;/b&gt;, therefore "a" is correct. If the course was specifiied as a particular course in a particular institution, then "the" would be required.&amp;nbsp; "....the CET course at *** College."&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do you have any suggestions&amp;nbsp;that will help me to decide correctly whether there a need to put the underlined article there?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Definite articles needed in these sentences?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/DefiniteArticlesNeededThese-Sentences/czrxg/post.htm#191851</link><pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2006 14:40:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:191851</guid><dc:creator>davkett</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;If 'the' is part of the name, it is capitalized; but I'm not convinced that most newspapers have 'the' as part of their name.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In naming the organization 'Korean-American Scientists Association', the acronym would be KASA.&amp;nbsp; With 'The' in the name, I suppose it would have to be an unpronounceable TKASA.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I think, in speaking, it sounds more natural to say 'the' before any named organization that doesn't have 'the' in the official name.&amp;nbsp; The implication in saying &lt;EM&gt;the&lt;/EM&gt; is 'the organization called' [KASA].&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As for 'the United States of America', we always see the abbreviation-- 'the USA' (not 'The USA').&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: An versus a</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/AnVersusA/cbxl/post.htm#10364</link><pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:16:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:10364</guid><dc:creator>wumanfu</dc:creator><description>Hi, you asked&lt;br /&gt;Which is the correct usage please:&lt;br /&gt;" I have ordered a / an MRI (magnetic resonance scan) and will review the patient following this."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rule: With single letters and groups of letters that are pronounced as individual letters, be guided by the pronunciation: a B road, a TUC leader; but an A road, an FA Cup match, an SAS unit (assuming the abbreviations are not mentally expanded to their full forms, which would alter the " &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Answer&lt;br /&gt;I have ordered an MRIâ¦&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reference&lt;br /&gt;"a"  Pocket Fowler's Modern English Usage&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;a, an,   called the indefinite article (or, by some grammarians, determiner). In origin, a and its by-form an are versions of the Old English an meaning&lt;br /&gt;âoneâ. (1) Before all normal words or diphthongs an is required (an actor, an eagle, an illness, an Old Master, an uncle). Before a syllable beginning&lt;br /&gt;in its written form with a vowel but pronounced with a consonantal sound, a is used (a eulogy, a unit, a use; a one, a once-only). Before all consonants&lt;br /&gt;except silent h, a is usual: a book, a history, a home, a household name, a memorial service, a puddle, a young man; but, with silent h, an hour, an honour.&lt;br /&gt;â¦&lt;br /&gt;With single letters and groups of letters that are pronounced as individual letters, be guided by the pronunciation: a B&lt;br /&gt;road, a TUC leader; but an A road, an FA Cup match, an SAS unit (assuming the abbreviations are not mentally expanded to their full forms, which would&lt;br /&gt;alter the&lt;br /&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>