http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aDemonstrative+Adjectives+tag%3aNumbersSearch results for 'tag:Demonstrative Adjectives tag:Numbers' matching tags 'Demonstrative Adjectives' and 'Numbers'en-USCSMOD (Build: 3273.32735)http://www.englishforums.com/English/PossesivePronoun/gkzjd/post.htm#551857Thu, 07 Aug 2008 02:28:31 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:551857califjim quote user Huevos quote user Mister Micawber are determiners quote Just a terminology thing CJ says possessive adjectives whereas you say determiners What makes these determiners quote Possessive adjectives are just one class of determiners Articles demonstrative adjectives numbers and quantifiers are other classes of determiners my his a an the this that these those one two three some all every many are all determiners So there is no conflict between my focus on the possessive and adjectival properties and Mr M s focus on the superclass called determiners Technically a determiner is not an adjective not a central case of adjective anyway like red and round so maybe possessive determiner and demonstrative determiner are better terms It all depends on which author you read They all have different preferences as regards terminology CJ http://www.englishforums.com/English/ComesFirstNumberSuperlative/cwczv/post.htm#207013Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:02:16 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:207013rvwThe following is from Mary Ansell s English Grammar Explanations and Exercises In your sentences the numbers should precede the superlatives Otherwise one might get the feeling that there are several groups of 50 people each and you are selecting the most beautiful group Usual Order of Attributive Adjectives1 certain determiners such as all both and half2 determiners including the articles a and and the possessive adjectives e g my his her our and their demonstrative adjectives e g that these this and those and certain other determiners such as another any each either enough every neither no some what and which3 cardinal numbers e g one two three and certain other determiners such as few many and several4 determiners such as fewer fewest least less more and most5 general descriptive adjectives often in the following order a adjectives indicating size e g large long narrow b adjectives indicating weight e g heavy light c participles and other adjectives e g clever excited interesting d adjectives indicating temperature e g cold hot warm e adjectives indicating humidity e g dry damp wet f adjectives indicating age e g new six month old young g adjectives indicating shape e g barrel shaped round square6 adjectives indicating color e g blue grey white7 adjectives indicating materials e g cloth leather metal8 proper adjectives e g American Victorian9 defining adjectives usually indicating purpose method of operation location time or categories of people http://www.englishforums.com/English/QuestionAboutGeneralGrammar/mnjz/post.htm#62871Wed, 22 Dec 2004 12:49:44 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:62871mister micawberThese cover most instances 1 When the noun is plural and is referring to all like items generally Lions are big cats 2 When the noun is uncountable and is referring to all like substances generally Sugar is sweet 3 When the noun is preceded by another determiner a possessive or a demonstrative adjective My elephant is pregnant This banana is overripe 4 There are a number of idiomatic cases of omitted articles on foot at school by airmail in bed after midnight etc There are some other minor instances but these four will cover 95 of the zero articles I think http://www.englishforums.com/English/UsingABeforeANoun/kbvg/post.htm#49493Fri, 08 Oct 2004 06:03:55 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:49493mister micawberBecause the English language uses number which requires a determiner before a singular countable common noun either an article a demonstrative adjective or a possessive adjective You don t have to use a car if you choose instead to use the car this that car or my his their Jesus car Additional adjectives are optional an old car James s stolen car this decrepit car Sorry guest it s just part of the language How about your language any unusual features http://www.englishforums.com/English/FirstQuestionOther/3/bxrk/Post.htm#8969Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:29:41 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:8969wumanfuHi this is my first post to the group I ve just pasted information from Pocket Fowler s Modern English Usage To be quite frank I don t really understand these definitions fully but I hope the information is useful to you So regarding the words 1 Than 2 that 1 Than is normally used to introduce the second element in a comparison and acts either as a conjunction He is older than I am or as a preposition He is older than me In uses such as He is older than I than is normally regarded as a conjunction with the verb following I understood but in spoken English at least the more usual choice is the type He is older than me 2 that is a word with many roles and plays a major part in English sentence structure The following are its main grammatical functions DEMONSTRATIVE PRONOUN That was what I meant DEMONSTRATIVE ADJECTIVE Why did you take that picture of me DEMONSTRATIVE ADVERB I was that angry It didn t hurt that much RELATIVE PRONOUN It was not the drug that had done it CONJUNCTION He had assumed that we would want to see him 1 As a demonstrative pronoun and adjective that normally refers to something already mentioned or known pronoun She had not meant it so but it could have been read like that How the hell did you manage that The witnesses if they could be called that continued to repeat that they knew nothing adjective If I were you I would keep an eye on that young man It wasn t a nature reserve that Ark of yours There are also a number of familiar idiomatic or formulaic uses Something worth a lot of money that s for sure She had a small pretty face I ll give you that She cleared her throat to speak but left it at that I just wanted to see her that s all 2 Its use as a demonstrative adverb equivalent to so or very or so very dates from the 15c and has been slipping in and out of standard usage ever since In current English it is regarded as informal in both positive and negative contexts Shut up says Claudia It s not that funny David Lodge 1988 You and your brother you re not really that alike are you Encounter 1989 In other contexts however it verges on the formal or at least neutral The questioning attitude that comes naturally at student age is not that easily abolished Listener 1987 3 As a relative pronoun that becomes an alternative to which and occasionally who Although they are often interchangeable there are some uses that are peculiar to each a When that is used it normally introduces a so called restrictive clause which defines or gives essential rather than additional information about the noun or noun phrase that comes before the pen that my father bought for me the pen that is over on the table in each case the that clause defines which pen is meant See further at RELATIVE CLAUSES In these cases the that clause normally follows on without a comma Which can also be used in these examples but in conversational English that is more usual and in some cases it is possible to omit the relative pronoun altogether and say the pen my father bought for me That can also replace who or whom especially when the reference is non specific as in The person that I saw was definitely a woman and when there are two antecedents one inanimate and the other human It was the drug and not her brother that had upset her b That is also more idiomatic than which in a number of cases 1 when which already occurs earlier in the sentence in another role Which is the house that you bought 2 after indefinite pronouns such as anything everything nothing and something There is something that I forgot to mention and 3 after a construction with the impersonal it It is the new one that we want When that is the object of the verb in its clause it is regularly omitted especially in speech There is something I forgot to mention c Which not that has to be used in so called non restrictive clauses which give additional rather than essential information A new edition of the book which has taken ten years to write will be published this week Which is also used when a preposition precedes it Is this the book to which you are referring in a corresponding construction with that the preposition has to come at the end Is this the book that you are referring to or Is this the book you are referring to 4 That is used as a conjunction to introduce a subordinate clause principally after verbs of saying feeling believing knowing learning etc The President admitted that he had lied We would hate to think that they were corrupting you I understand that you wanted to see me A that clause of this type can also occur after the impersonal it It was natural that they should think so Normally the conjunction that can be omitted especially in speech I understand you wanted to see me It was natural they should think so In inverted constructions however in which the that clause comes before the main clause that is obligatory That they are guilty is assumed by everybody Notes from Pocket Fowler s Modern English Usage