http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aDialects+tag%3aFootballSearch results for 'tag:Dialects tag:Football' matching tags 'Dialects' and 'Football'en-USCSMOD (Build: 3273.32735)http://www.englishforums.com/English/BritishAmericanEnglishPotaytoe-Potaatoe/8/mckw/Post.htm#59712Mon, 06 Dec 2004 18:59:31 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:59712a.desouzaAll languages change and develop over time with new words being added and different meanings being applied English has changed just as much as American english from what the language was like in the 18th century no one goes around talking like Charles Dickens or Jane Austen anymore naturally American english started of the same as British english because it derived from the British In fact relatively few people in England speak with what most of the world sees as the traditional posh proper British accent with the exception of people in the Royal family and those in Parliment Up in the north there are a variety of dialects but down south around London the accent is a mild cockney among the working class youngsters or neutral among those who are older or better off It amazes me to here that some people learning English learn it in a American accent surely if you are learning a language you learn it in the accent of the people who originally spoke it If you are learning Spanish you learn it in Spanish accent not a south American one If people are learning American English you might as well teach carribean English too lastly I have no problem with words being different in America but some are just not logical Such as the change from football to soccer everyobody else calls it football because you play it with your feet unlike American football which you play with your hands so why call it soccer that is one change i really do not understand http://www.englishforums.com/English/ViciousDangerousSportsBanned/wwkn/post.htm#41799Thu, 12 Aug 2004 00:30:58 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:41799eagleHi First of all I am not at all sure what is the definition Vicious and Dangerous sports Sports are meant to enhance your energy level excitment teach you team work help you overcome stress and so on Now when I say this game is dangerous it may be that the past I might have had a base experience while playing that particular game When I play football with a few group of children its totally different experience than when I play the same game in a Club That means that we make the sport dangerous ourself and not that the particular sport is dangerous in itself As for the word Vicious it confuses me if you meant addiction to sport Even if you mean addiction to sport I do not see it as a threat untill and unless an employee is glued to the TV set instead of being involved in his work but again it is not the sport that has to be blamed it is the habbit Addiction If you are not working because of addiction to Sports someone else might not be wortking due to addiction to something else More over if a sports person is addicted to sports it shows his her involvement in the sport which is necessary getting addicted to your work is not wrong getting overly addicted to something which is not your job is destructive That should not prompt us to point out fingers at a particular sport however before we say futher we need to know and categorize sports in to definition of being dangerous Definition of dangerous changes the way dialects change in this world http://www.englishforums.com/English/GoodEnglish/hgbwb/post.htm#614551Mon, 24 May 2004 02:13:14 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:614551tom nq 2 This is perfectly good English and was undoubtedly drawn up by a lawyer nq nq 1 Is it really good English not only legal English nq ensure that you have read and understand the relevant policy When I say it s perfectly good English I mean it s technically correct depending on how the relevant policy is actually worded but would rarely be used in that style It would normally be have read and understood It s not quite right as it is it s drawing unnatural attention to the present tense It s being too specific and as someone else pointed out probably deliberately so If I had to use that sentence I would put in at least one comma and probably two but then lawyers are famous for not using punctuation The mixing of tenses like this is probably best left for lawyers poets and local dialects The wording is very particular It s legalese or maybe even a typo Maybe it s management speak I ve read the regulations and understand them sounds fine to me I ve read the regulations and understood them sounds a bit wrong I ve cooked my dinner and eat it sounds all wrong I ve read the book and say it s good sounds fine go figure you probably at least need to be referring to the same noun in both tenses That s why I say the wording you left out is relevant I ve bought a football and kick it doh http://www.englishforums.com/English/ReviewHarryPotterVolume/hjlbn/post.htmFri, 08 Aug 2003 00:41:25 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:632073peter moylanIt s not the custom I know of this group to publish book reviews My excuse is that this isn t really a review of one specific book It is rather a gripe about some disturbing trends in the publishing industry As a result there aren t any significant spoilers in this article If you haven t yet read Potter 5 and you plan to read it you may safely read on Plot summary Harry Potter spends another year at school He spends time with his usual friends and has conflicts with his usual enemies Some of the teachers are pleasant and some aren t There is as usual a new Defence Against the Dark Arts teacher The classes are much as expected but are set against a background that holds a growing sense of unease At the end of the book there is a major battle between the Good Guys and the Bad Guys In other words it s the same book you have already read four times The only really new element is the length The length I must say really bothered me Someone presumably an editor convinced the author to take a 100 page idea and pad it out to 750 pages You ve heard of fast paced action This is treacle paced action and I say that from the viewpoint of someone who read the book in mid winter Throughout the book one keeps thinking Yes but when is she going to get to the point I blame the editor and or publisher for this rather than the author because I see it happening with too many other authors Somebody somewhere has shares in the wood chipping industry and is not too concerned about the destruction of the global ecosystem We the readers are paying the price in terms of boredom The authors must take some of the blame in terms of their sacrificing artistic integrity but we all know that they re under pressure to increase the page count Never mind the quality feel the width When I started reading this book I was reminded of my reaction to the fifth volume of the Foundation Trilogy Yes I knew that the good ideas had already been mined out and that I was about to read a somewhat pedestrian work I read it anyway on the grounds that no book by a first class author could be a total failure And I was right in both cases Foundation 5 and Potter 5 were both worth reading They were probably even better than most novels published that year Nevertheless they were not brilliant and that saddened me Let me say right now that I consider Rowling to be a brilliant author She proved that with her first book How many people could write a children s book that also appealed to adults She writes fluently we can identify with her characters she keeps the action moving And the writing style what can I say Elegant prose bilingual puns and wordplay that would elevate the quality of any best of AUE collection She didn t write down to her audience she wrote up to it She challenged her readers You don t know Latin Well go and look it up then According to rumour this appeal to intelligence was a barrier to getting the first book published Some editors I gather did not believe that a book for intelligent readers could succeed If so they were wrong True there are couch potatoes who will never advance beyond the latest football results but they don t form part of the book buying public The book buyers are a self selected group of people of above average intelligence They will jump at anything that concedes that there is such a thing as a literate reader P T Barnum said in effect that you could never go far wrong if you assumed that people were gullible Politicians like Donald Rumsfeld now take that as an article of faith Are they right to believe so Perhaps not The Harry Potter phenomenon tells us that there are a lot more intelligent people out there than the politicians would like us to believe There might well be hope for the human race after all As usual I digress Let us get back to the book Or books because it is the downward trend that matters The first Potter book was brilliant The second still pretty good The third and fourth were readable The fifth OK I suppose If I have correctly understood the school system at Hogwarts there is still a sixth book to come I fear for the quality of that one A case in point in the fifth book we start to notice something important about a battle between wizards It all depends on who is quickest to draw his wand O Queekstraw O Pancho Are we already reduced to parodies of the Wild West Do not forsake me oh my JK Rowling I would love to enjoy your sixth book but not if it turns out to be an imitation of High Noon Why was the first book so good I ve already mentioned some of the reasons but I left out the most important factor the sheer density of ideas The novelties pile up page after page That I m sorry to say is what is missing from the fifth book I could not find a single thing in Potter 5 that was not a minor variant of something that had been introduced in the earlier books The first book was creative to the max as they say in some dialects The fifth was self plagiarism There is azulno such a thing as the one book author Think of Catch 22 an utterly brilliant book whose author then went on to produce nothing but crap I don t believe that Rowling is in that class Her second book was almost as good as the first one Nevertheless she is clearly a victim of the Successful Author Syndrome Her publishers are forcing her to write faster than she can come up with ideas It has been reported that Rowling is now so rich that she could safely retire without writing another word But of course writers must write it s something built into them I can empathise with this to some extent I myself was once a system theorist of some considerable repute Now I give lectures that build on my past glory The sad part is that most writers continue to write well beyond their most creative period To paraphrase Jacques Chirac they miss the ideal opportunity to keep their mouths shut The genius of someone like Godbeloved Godbeloved Godbeloved Mozart lies in the fact that he died young If he had died twenty years later he would have blown it Someone would have noticed that every one of his symphonies sounds like every other one Where do we go from here I don t know I happen to like Harry Potter because he resonates with some parts of my own self image For that reason I shall be sad if he mutates from being the Unsung Hero to the Man of Plastic I hope it won t happen but I fear that it will Peter Moylan Email Removed http eepjm newcastle edu au OS 2 and eCS information and software