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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Difference between tag:Clauses' matching tags 'Difference between' and 'Clauses'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aDifference+between+tag%3aClauses&amp;tag=Difference+between,Clauses&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Difference between tag:Clauses' matching tags 'Difference between' and 'Clauses'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3125.9045)</generator><item><title>Re: has been open or has been opend</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasBeenOpenOrHasBeenOpend/ggrng/post.htm#530831</link><pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 06:37:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:530831</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Avangi&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I just broke the lightbulb.&amp;nbsp; Look! See the broken lightbulb!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; The problem is that with most verbs, including &lt;i&gt;break&lt;/i&gt;, the past participle (&lt;i&gt;broken&lt;/i&gt;) also serves as the adjective.&amp;nbsp; So there&amp;#39;s no difference between these:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;The lightbulb has been broken since 1999.&lt;/i&gt; (adjective - in the state of being broken)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;The lightbulb has been broken since 1999.&lt;/i&gt; (verb - caused to be broken)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;open&lt;/i&gt; is a different case because we have both the past participle &lt;i&gt;opened &lt;/i&gt;(for use as a verb) and an adjectival form &lt;i&gt;open&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp; So there is a difference between these:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;The store has been open since 1999.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt; (adjective - in the state of being open)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;The store has been opened since 1999.&lt;/i&gt; (verb - caused to be open)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The second version of each is a little weird with the &lt;i&gt;since&lt;/i&gt; clause.&amp;nbsp;  They force an unusual reading.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CJ&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: The difference between a phrase and a sentence (Chris)</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferenceBetweenPhraseSentence-Chris/2/gchkv/Post.htm#513149</link><pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 13:15:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:513149</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>i think this may be benificial &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://cc.ysu.edu/~tacopela/Phrases-and-Clauses.htm"&gt;http://cc.ysu.edu/~tacopela/Phrases-and-Clauses.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>because in a noun (nominal) clause and because in an adverbial clause ?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/BecauseNounNominalClauseBecause-AdverbialClause/grplq/post.htm</link><pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 10:08:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:505664</guid><dc:creator>Luke23</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi! Was just wondering whether somebody could explain to me what is the difference between the two &lt;em&gt;because&lt;/em&gt;-clauses in (1) and (2):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;(1) He punched the wall &lt;em&gt;because he was angry&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;(2) It is &lt;em&gt;because he is angry&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is it that the &lt;em&gt;because&lt;/em&gt; clause in (1) is an &amp;quot;adverbial clause&amp;quot; and that the &lt;em&gt;because &lt;/em&gt;clause in (2) is a noun or nominal clause? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;It&amp;#39;s just that I&amp;#39;ve read countless times that &lt;em&gt;because&lt;/em&gt; introduces an adverbial clause, and never seen it written that &lt;em&gt;because&lt;/em&gt; can be part of a noun clause.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;THanks for the help,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Luke&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Please, help me with this question</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Question/grpcx/post.htm#505509</link><pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:17:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:505509</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>&amp;nbsp;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Anonymous&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; ...&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt; &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;I have read a magazine&lt;/font&gt; * today&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt; ,how to explain that we don&amp;#39;t use the Simple Past, but the Present Perfect tense&amp;nbsp;here? Because&amp;nbsp;the action of reading a magazine happened &lt;u&gt;&lt;b&gt;today&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/u&gt;, time is definite! ... &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&amp;nbsp; The present perfect shows indefiniteness with respect to time, yes.&amp;nbsp; But you can restrict the indefiniteness with a &lt;i&gt;since&lt;/i&gt; clause.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have read a magazine since I saw you last.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;today&lt;/i&gt; is a special adverb that can be used in place of a &lt;i&gt;since&lt;/i&gt; clause with the present perfect, because (unlike adverbs like &lt;i&gt;yesterday&lt;/i&gt;) it includes the moment of speaking:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have read a magazine [since the beginning of this day / today].&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Anonymous&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; ... what&amp;#39;s the difference between:&lt;/p&gt;


&lt;p&gt;I &lt;b&gt;read&lt;/b&gt; a magazine &lt;b&gt;today&lt;/b&gt;. ...&amp;nbsp; and &amp;nbsp; I &lt;b&gt;have read&lt;/b&gt; a magazine &lt;b&gt;today.&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp; ... &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;The difference is subtle.&amp;nbsp; The present perfect is conceptually a step removed from the real action of the simple past.&amp;nbsp; The present perfect is indirect compared to the direct simple past.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;I read a magazine today&lt;/i&gt; expresses what happened.&amp;nbsp; It tells what I did directly. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;I have read a magazine today&lt;/i&gt; expresses the existence of a state resulting from what happened.&amp;nbsp; It tells what I have on my list of &amp;#39;things done today&amp;#39;.&amp;nbsp; It tells what I did, but only indirectly through the implication of what&amp;#39;s on &amp;#39;my list&amp;#39;, which is what the sentence is really focusing on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CJ&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: The difference between 'who' and 'whom'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferenceBetweenWhom/grkdw/post.htm#504075</link><pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 02:30:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:504075</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m sorry but I think that this example is incorrect. Since &amp;#39;Max&amp;#39; is the subject of the clause (with &amp;#39;given&amp;#39; being the verb and the &amp;#39;book&amp;#39; the object), it would then translate to Who was given the book? If the original sentence had been, Casi gave Max the book then it would translate to To whom did Casi give the book? Since Casi would become the subject of the clause. A good trick for remembering whether to use who or whom, incidentally, is to replace the word who or whom with he or him and see which one sounds right. Whom, of course, corresponds to him. So, for example: Who arrived first or whom arrived first? Obviously, using this method, he arrived first sounds much better than him arrived first so the correct word to use would be who. On the other hand, Whom do I love or who do I love?&amp;nbsp;I love him sounds better than I love he so the correct word to use would be whom. &lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: what's the difference between hate+tov and hate+v-ing?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferenceBetweenHateHate/zpwzp/post.htm#493712</link><pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:07:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:493712</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Anonymous&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;What is the difference between the two
sentences in meaning?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; There are exceedingly few cases where
there is any difference.&amp;nbsp; On rare occasions, the gerund form
allows an interpretation with a generic subject (&lt;i&gt;anybody&lt;/i&gt;) that is different from the subject in the main clause.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;He hates to lie, cheat, and steal&lt;/i&gt; can &lt;u&gt;only&lt;/u&gt; mean &lt;b&gt;he&lt;/b&gt; hates these things when &lt;b&gt;he&lt;/b&gt; does them.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;He hates lying, cheating, and stealing&lt;/i&gt; can mean &lt;b&gt;he&lt;/b&gt; hates these thing when &lt;b&gt;he&lt;/b&gt; does them, or it can mean that &lt;b&gt;he&lt;/b&gt; hates these things when &lt;b&gt;anybody&lt;/b&gt; does them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CJ&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: The difference between these two sentences (about &amp;quot;can/could&amp;quot; )</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferenceBetweenTheseSentences-AboutCould/zxxcl/post.htm#490478</link><pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 02:49:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:490478</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>&amp;nbsp;It&amp;#39;s a run-on sentence.&amp;nbsp; It should be two sentences or two independent clauses separated by a semi-colon.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Come when you like; I can see you any time.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;With the imperative (&lt;i&gt;&lt;u&gt;Come&lt;/u&gt; when you like&lt;/i&gt;) I would use only the present &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I would not mix the tentativeness of &lt;i&gt;could&lt;/i&gt; with the openness of &lt;i&gt;any time&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I find the following sentence more in keeping with the idea of &lt;i&gt;could see you&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Note that there is a restriction here -- a condition. (This is the so-called Second Conditional.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;I could see you tomorrow if you came before noon.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CJ&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: what's the difference between &amp;quot;although&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;even if&amp;quot;</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferenceBetweenAlthoughEven/zxwvk/post.htm#488777</link><pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:33:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:488777</guid><dc:creator>Cool Breeze</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;china.hyh&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And in what situation should I use B but not A?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Use &lt;i&gt;even if&lt;/i&gt; in a clause with a &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;subjunctive&lt;/font&gt; when the main clause has a &lt;font color="#00ff00"&gt;conditional&lt;/font&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Even if I &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;knew&lt;/font&gt; him better, I &lt;font color="#00ff00"&gt;wouldn&amp;#39;t &lt;/font&gt;tell him anything about this.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CB&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: before clause + will or (be going to) ??</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ClauseGoing/2/zxgkw/Post.htm#488299</link><pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:10:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:488299</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.englishforums.com/emoticons/emotion-14.gif" alt="Devil" title="Devil" /&gt;before to etudy I am going to the library&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Magic79&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;My question is regarding the difference between &amp;quot;will&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;be going to&amp;quot; in an if clause.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know the differences between them in normal sentences which are related to:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1- planned action (be going to)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2- spontaneous action (will)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3- prediction (will or be going to)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My question asks about the difference between those two forms in if clauses.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For example:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1- If it rains tomorrow, I &lt;font&gt;am going to stay &lt;/font&gt;home.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2- If it rains tomorrow, I &lt;font&gt;will stay &lt;/font&gt;home.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do the differences between &amp;quot;will&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;going to&amp;quot; carry on to other clauses?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I hope that you could help me with that. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am an non-native English teacher.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: truncation possibly this but not that</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TruncationPossibly/zxggq/post.htm#488239</link><pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:38:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:488239</guid><dc:creator>Avangi</dc:creator><description>&lt;font&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hi Anon, I was intrigued by this issue, as I too could see no substantial difference between the examples.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think it comes down to a simple misunderstanding. The Anon said, &amp;quot;The dilemma how to know what and how much to truncate, Mr.M.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When we say,&amp;quot;There is Superman, up in the air,&amp;quot; there may be two stages of truncation:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;There is Superman, (1)&lt;strike&gt;who is&lt;/strike&gt; &amp;nbsp;(2)&lt;strike&gt;flying / hovering&lt;/strike&gt; &amp;nbsp;up in the air.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You added, &amp;quot;There is Superman, &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;u&gt;flying&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/u&gt; up in the air.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mr. M. said, &amp;quot;Those are OK too-- but they&amp;#39;re not necessarily truncated. If they were they could be: &lt;i&gt;There is superman, &lt;b&gt;hovering&lt;/b&gt; up in the air.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/i&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What is meant by &amp;quot;they&amp;#39;re&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;they&amp;quot;?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mr. M. goes on to compare Anon&amp;#39;s original &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;up in the air &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;to &lt;i&gt;I have a hole &lt;b&gt;in my pocket&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;, saying they&amp;#39;re just phrases (no evidence they were once clauses and have been truncated.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When you truncate &amp;quot;who is&amp;quot; (relative pronoun and linking verb) it&amp;#39;s fairly obvious what you&amp;#39;ve truncated. It sounds to me like Mr. M. is saying that if &lt;b&gt;flying&lt;/b&gt; had been truncated you would have no way of knowing the word had been &amp;quot;&lt;b&gt;flying&lt;/b&gt;,&amp;quot; and it could just as well have been &amp;quot;&lt;b&gt;hovering&lt;/b&gt;.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I believe you&amp;#39;re taking Mr. M.&amp;#39;s words to mean that Anon&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;flying&amp;quot; addition &lt;u&gt;is not&lt;/u&gt; a correct example of a word that might have been truncated, while &amp;quot;hovering&amp;quot; &lt;u&gt;is&lt;/u&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So to answer your question, there is no grammatical difference between &amp;quot;flying&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;hovering.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regards, - A.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/font&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>