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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Direct objects tag:Regards' matching tags 'Direct objects' and 'Regards'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aDirect+objects+tag%3aRegards&amp;tag=Direct+objects,Regards&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Direct objects tag:Regards' matching tags 'Direct objects' and 'Regards'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3170.31378)</generator><item><title>Re: About the meaning of &amp;amp;quot;where&amp;amp;quot;</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/AboutTheMeaningOfWhere/zlppd/post.htm#476241</link><pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:11:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:476241</guid><dc:creator>Velimir</dc:creator><description>&lt;br /&gt;I&amp;#39;ll try to give some information on this as a non-professional.This is how it looks like in the serbian language,and I suppose,it is very similar in all other slavic languages and also the latin language.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For indicating a location the locative case of a noun is used.If the english language had similar declension of nouns then the nouns following the prepositions &amp;quot;in&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;at&amp;quot; would be in the locative case.The presence of the preceding preposition is obligatory when the noun is in the locative case.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But,if the verb indicates motion,or in plain english,if you are :&lt;br /&gt; going to, flying to, traveling to..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;like in the question given in the opening post,then the noun will be in the dative case.This case you can connect with the nouns following the preposition &amp;quot;to&amp;quot; although the preposition is not necessarily present.The word &amp;quot;dative&amp;quot; derives from latin &amp;quot;dare&amp;quot; which means &amp;quot;to give&amp;quot; and the usage is most obvious on the example of that verb: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I gave my girlfriend a flower.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you translated this in serbian,&amp;quot;girlfriend&amp;quot; would be in the dative case.Indirect object is in the dative case.The direct object (&amp;quot;a flower&amp;quot;) is in the accusative case.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &amp;quot;Cases play a major part in determining a noun&amp;#39;s syntactic role in the sentence, so word order is not as important in Latin as it is in other languages, such as English. Because of noun cases, words can often be moved around in a sentence without significantly altering its meaning, though the emphasis will have altered&amp;quot; (from a Wikipedia article on the latin language)&lt;br /&gt; Btw,changing nouns,adjectives,pronouns and numbers to different cases is pretty tough area of the language with more cases,and is often lifelong mistery for many natives,and I know that well.Luckily,english is not a case-sensitive language.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Best regards&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Identify the functions of verbs in the sentence</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IdentifyFunctionsVerbsSentence/zwxxr/post.htm#461193</link><pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 18:18:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:461193</guid><dc:creator>Avangi</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Anonymous wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;Identify the functions of verbs in the sentence below by labelling them Vt (transitive), Vi (intransitive), Vd (dative), Vf (factitive), Vc (copulative) &amp;amp; Vs (sense)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Q1: He &lt;U&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;was &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/U&gt;last &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;&lt;U&gt;seen&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt; (vs)&lt;/FONT&gt; being given a large amount of money outside a bank. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Q2: In the late nineteenth century, Chinese secret societies &lt;U&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;became&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/U&gt; &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;(vc)&lt;/FONT&gt; obessive about the possession of silver to such an extent that voilence often flared up among them.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Q3: Since the first astronaut &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;&lt;U&gt;landed&lt;/U&gt; (vi)&lt;/FONT&gt; on the moon, mankind &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;&lt;U&gt;has explored&lt;/U&gt; (vt)&lt;/FONT&gt; the idea of travelling to Mars.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Q4: The crowd &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;&lt;U&gt;was&lt;/U&gt; (vc)&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;getting larger and more agitated when, at last, the police &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;&lt;U&gt;happened&lt;/U&gt; (vi)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Q5: Since he &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;&lt;U&gt;was&lt;/U&gt; (vc)&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;always reliable and systematic, the committee unanimously &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;&lt;U&gt;voted&lt;/U&gt; (vf)&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;Mike Treasurer.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I have tried to underline the main verb for each sentence but not sure whether I'm&amp;nbsp;on the right track. Please enlighten. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Many thanks in advance.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hi Anon,&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; "Please enlighten."&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Too much light??&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I think these terms have been invented by the ESL community and are a little tough for "native speakers" who are not trained ESL teachers.&amp;nbsp; There's some overlap and ambiguity.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Transitive&lt;/EM&gt; and &lt;EM&gt;intransitive&lt;/EM&gt; are of course basic native English grammar school material. Every verb is one or the other, and often both, but not at the same time.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Q1: [to see] &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;(Vt) - &lt;U&gt;passive voice&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;(&lt;U&gt;vs&lt;/U&gt; would be &lt;EM&gt;You &lt;U&gt;look&lt;/U&gt; funny&lt;/EM&gt;.)&amp;nbsp; [I may get clobbered on this.]&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Q2: [to become]&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color=#9acd32&gt; okay&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp; (links to predicate adjective &lt;EM&gt;obsessive&lt;/EM&gt;)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Q3: [to land]&amp;nbsp; &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color=#9acd32&gt;okay&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;(no object)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; [to explore]&amp;nbsp; &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color=#9acd32&gt;okay&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp; (direct object=&lt;EM&gt;idea&lt;/EM&gt;)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Q4: [to get - in the intransitive sense of &lt;EM&gt;to become&lt;/EM&gt;]&amp;nbsp; &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color=#9acd32&gt;okay&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp; (links to adjectival phrase &lt;EM&gt;larger and more agitated&lt;/EM&gt;)&amp;nbsp; [why not underline both parts as you did in Q1: ?]&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; [to happen]&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color=#9acd32&gt; okay&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Q5: [to be]&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color=#9acd32&gt; okay&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp; (links to adjectival phrase &lt;EM&gt;[always] reliable and systematic&lt;/EM&gt;)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; [to vote]&amp;nbsp; &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color=#9acd32&gt;okay&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp; (two direct objects)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Regards,&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; - A.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: HIGH REGARD</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/HighRegard/zwrzc/post.htm#456996</link><pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2007 18:25:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:456996</guid><dc:creator>Avangi</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Stevenukd wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;Dear Teachers,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1. I didn't investigate the thing you stole that car because I have high regard for your boss. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- Is this natural to say? &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks very much to Teachers,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;Stevenukd. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hi Stevenukd,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The idea seems natural but it needs some work.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Did the second person steal the car or a "thing" from the car?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Perhaps "investigate" isn't the right word, because if you know the person is guilty, what's to investigate?&amp;nbsp; "Report" might be better.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Both "report" and "investigate" are transitive verbs and take a direct object.&amp;nbsp; As it stands, "thing" is the object.&amp;nbsp; What you might report/investigate is the &lt;STRONG&gt;theft&lt;/STRONG&gt;, not the &lt;STRONG&gt;thing&lt;/STRONG&gt;.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It might be more natural to say, "I didn't report what you stole from the car . . . ." than to say, "I didn't report the thing you stole . . . ."&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;or&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; "I didn't report your theft from the/that car because . . . " [the rest is good.]&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;or&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; "I didn't report [that] you stole something from the/that car because . . ." &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If the &lt;U&gt;car&lt;/U&gt; was stolen&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; "I didn't report your theft of that car . . . "&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;or&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; "I didn't report [that] you stole the car . . . . "&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;or&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; "I kept quiet about you/your stealing that car . . . "&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Best of luck,&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; - A.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Edit.&amp;nbsp; [Sorry, CJ, I didn't see your post.]&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Maybe I shouldn't have assumed you knew the person was guilty, but that's what it seemed like.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: The use of &amp;quot;yourself&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;myself&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;you&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;me&amp;quot;.</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/YourselfMyselfInstead/vxhnl/post.htm#405121</link><pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 01:10:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:405121</guid><dc:creator>Philip</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;DouglasM6 wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;To my way of thinking, the following use of âyourselfâ and âmyselfâ is wrong and sounds really clumsy:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;A. This morning I sent a reply to yourself.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;A. This morning you sent a reply to myself.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Surely these should be: &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;B. This morning I sent a reply to you.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;B. This morning you sent a reply to me.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My dictionary says something like this (from memory) under its entry for âyourselfâ:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;- (a) used as the object of a verb or preposition when this is the same as the subject of the clause and the subject is the person or people being addressed.&amp;nbsp; (b) used by way of emphasis as in, âYou do it yourself.â&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The use as in A. seems to have &lt;U&gt;completely&lt;/U&gt; swamped the use as in B., so that I no longer hear B.&amp;nbsp; I feel &lt;U&gt;exceedingly&lt;/U&gt; uncomfortable with this, almost to the point of finding it annoying.&amp;nbsp; Is this irritation misplaced?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Regards,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Doug&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;What you remember from your dictionary is basically&amp;nbsp;correct (although some of the first use seems a bit convoluted:&amp;nbsp; simply -&amp;nbsp;subject is same as object or direct object).&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: General Questions. Please, help!</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/GeneralQuestions/vgkcl/post.htm#366497</link><pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 12:36:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:366497</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;Hi, Clive!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Thanks&amp;nbsp;for your attention.&amp;nbsp;I see...My question&amp;nbsp;was:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;Bob&lt;/STRONG&gt;, someone's name, is the same as the &lt;U&gt;personal pronoun&lt;/U&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt; he&lt;/STRONG&gt;, when used in the beginning of sentences. Example:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;- &lt;U&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Bob&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/U&gt; is a good student (&lt;STRONG&gt;Bob&lt;/STRONG&gt; = personal pronoun &lt;STRONG&gt;He&lt;/STRONG&gt;)&amp;nbsp;,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; But when it appears &lt;U&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;after a verb&lt;/STRONG&gt; as an indirect object&lt;/U&gt; ,&amp;nbsp;for example:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; - The gift hasn't been given&amp;nbsp;to &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;U&gt;Bob&amp;nbsp;&lt;/U&gt;.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;So here, &lt;STRONG&gt;Bob&lt;/STRONG&gt; is the same as the &lt;U&gt;object pronoun&lt;/U&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;him&lt;/STRONG&gt;, &lt;STRONG&gt;and not as the subject pronoun he&lt;/STRONG&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;So because of this I thought that the grammar &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;U&gt;only accepted&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; if we &lt;STRONG&gt;always&lt;/STRONG&gt; write:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; - The&amp;nbsp;gift hasn't been given&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;U&gt;to him&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; (and not &lt;U&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;to Bob&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/U&gt;). But if&amp;nbsp; I don't misunderstood your explanation, there's any problem if I also write or say: - The gift hasn't been given &lt;U&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;to Bob&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/U&gt;, isn't it?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Best regards,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Camille&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Writing a sentence with an Indirect Object.</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/WritingSentenceIndirectObject/dwwch/post.htm#292220</link><pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 16:39:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:292220</guid><dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;I need to write a sentence in the following pattern, and I don't see how it's possible.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;The pattern is: &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;adjective + direct object + helping verb + subject + verb&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;No articles allowed?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;So, something like &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;'Great strength did he use'&lt;/FONT&gt;. This kind of odd word order seems very literary or poetical.&amp;nbsp;This doesn't seem like a typical every-day English grammar exercise.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you can add other parts of speech, you could look at normal questions, eg &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;Which &lt;STRONG&gt;red sweater did she buy?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;(As regards your thread title, this is not really an exercise that deals with indirect objects)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;Best wishes, Clive&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: indirect object or adverbial ?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IndirectObjectOrAdverbial/2/dcpwc/Post.htm#264862</link><pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 07:58:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:264862</guid><dc:creator>Selfconfident</dc:creator><description>&amp;lt;BLOCKQUOTE&amp;gt;&amp;lt;table width="85%"&amp;gt;&amp;lt;tr&amp;gt;&amp;lt;td class="txt4"&amp;gt;&amp;lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;strong&amp;gt;Hela wrote:&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tr&amp;gt;&amp;lt;tr&amp;gt;&amp;lt;td class="quoteTable"&amp;gt;&amp;lt;table width="100%"&amp;gt;&amp;lt;tr&amp;gt;&amp;lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&amp;gt;&amp;lt;P&amp;gt;Thanks a lot, Miriam. I don't know why I thought that the verbs withing this sentence pattern:&amp;lt;/P&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;lt;P&amp;gt;SVOdA = subject / verb / direct object / adverbials were also considered complex-transitive verbs. I am wrong then?&amp;lt;/P&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;lt;P&amp;gt;Best regards,&amp;lt;/P&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;lt;P&amp;gt;Hela&amp;lt;/P&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tr&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/table&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/td&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/tr&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/table&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;Miriamï¼are you here?I have the same question.&lt;br /&gt;here are some sentence:&lt;br /&gt;(1)She led me [into the drawing-room]. &lt;br /&gt;(2)I saw the movie [on Friday]. &lt;br /&gt;(3)He had a gun [with him]. &lt;br /&gt;(4)We had some guests [for dinner] last night. &lt;br /&gt;(5)The police protect him [from being attack]. &lt;br /&gt;(6)We must get the rock [out of the path].&lt;br /&gt;Is it possible for a Prepositional phrase to be an adverbial and object complements phrase at the same time?&lt;br /&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: amusing/ amused</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/AmusingAmused/dbzwx/post.htm#257071</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:16:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:257071</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>&lt;i&gt;something, nothing, much, many, few, &lt;/i&gt;and&lt;i&gt; little&lt;/i&gt; can all be used in place of nouns, yes.&amp;nbsp; They are pronouns of quantity.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
You can't use &lt;u&gt;&lt;i&gt;find it&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/u&gt; as you have done.&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;find it&lt;/i&gt; is not followed by pronouns of quantity like this.&amp;nbsp; In this case &lt;i&gt;find&lt;/i&gt; is like &lt;i&gt;discover&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;see&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;We see nothing (which is) amusing in the play&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp; You would not say &lt;i&gt;We see it nothing (which is) amusing in the play.&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp; That would create a sentence with two different direct objects of &lt;i&gt;see&lt;/i&gt;:&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;it&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;nothing&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp; And that doesn't make any sense!&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt;*We &lt;u&gt;find it&lt;/u&gt; little amusing in the play.&lt;br&gt;
*We &lt;u&gt;find it&lt;/u&gt; nothing amusing in the play.&lt;br&gt;
____________&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;In &lt;i&gt;find it&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;find&lt;/i&gt; is more like &lt;i&gt;consider&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;regard&lt;/i&gt;, not like &lt;i&gt;discover&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;see&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;find it&lt;/i&gt; is normally followed by an adjective and a &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; clause.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt;I &lt;u&gt;find it&lt;/u&gt; strange &lt;u&gt;that&lt;/u&gt; the play started so late.&lt;br&gt;
Didn't you &lt;u&gt;find it&lt;/u&gt; unusual &lt;u&gt;that&lt;/u&gt; the lights were off?&lt;br&gt;
Matthew &lt;u&gt;found it&lt;/u&gt; remarkable &lt;u&gt;that&lt;/u&gt; Janice lied about the money.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
These mean:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt;I find that it is strange that the play started so late.&lt;br&gt;
Didn't you find that it was unusual that the lights were off?&lt;br&gt;
Matthew found that it was remarkable that Janice lied about the money.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
______________&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt;find it&lt;/i&gt; can also be followed by an adjective and an infinitive.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt;I &lt;u&gt;find it&lt;/u&gt; hard &lt;u&gt;to&lt;/u&gt; understand all the rules.&lt;br&gt;
Karen &lt;u&gt;found it&lt;/u&gt; easy &lt;u&gt;to&lt;/u&gt; do the homework.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
These mean:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt;I find that it is hard to understand all the rules.&lt;br&gt;
Karen found that it was easy to do the homework.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
CJ&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: the kinds of tenses</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheKindsOfTenses/cjwgp/post.htm#213688</link><pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2006 01:27:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:213688</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Believer wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;In regard to No.2,&amp;nbsp; I can almost swear that
I have heard some English professionals saying that there is an
implicit&amp;nbsp;word "to" there and whenever you hear the sentences
without it, just remember it is to be included for a sentence to be
a&amp;nbsp;correct sentence.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;While I recognize that some
people will make this claim, I contend that it is counter productive to
rely on the implicit existence of the word to.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
The indirect object is not native to Indo-European languages. In the
simplest scenario of their usage, these nouns had to be marked because
word order alone
was insufficient to identify the function of such nouns within the
clause. With
the evolution of English to the use of prepositions, the indirect
object marker evolved in two distinct manners. When the direct object
follows
the verb and the indirect object is last, the earlier usage, the
indirect object must be
marked with a preposition, and to was selected for this purpose. When
the indirect object follows the verb and the direct object is last,
the newer usage, word order alone is sufficient to mark the function of
the indirect
object and no preposition is required.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
I consider that it is not useful to get hung up on an arbitrary marker of the indirect object,
the preposition to, and to believe that without its presence we must somehow
devolve to the recognition that it must be there because it is required
under other conditions.&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Sentence Analysis</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/SentenceAnalysis/cjzdv/post.htm</link><pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 21:29:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:212759</guid><dc:creator>X11</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;Hi Everyone.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;Is there anyone who is able to analyse a sentence in terms of form and function down to word level?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;I'll give you an example of what I mean:&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&lt;U&gt;The boys like the girls&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;like = V:VP&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;the boys = S:NP&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; --&amp;gt; where 'the' = determiner and 'boys' = Head:Noun&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;the girls = DO:NP&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; --&amp;gt; where 'the' = determiner and 'girls' = Head:Noun&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;V = Verb&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;VP = Verb Phrase&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;S = Subject&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;NP = Noun Phrase&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;DO = Direct Object&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;I dealing with a very complex one right now, and I'm rather lost with some parts of it, so I hope that someone is familiar with this kind of analysis:-)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Regards Jay&lt;/P&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>