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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Expressions tag:Dates' matching tags 'Expressions' and 'Dates'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aExpressions+tag%3aDates&amp;tag=Expressions,Dates&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Expressions tag:Dates' matching tags 'Expressions' and 'Dates'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3161.22795)</generator><item><title>Re: Filipinisms/Filipinoisms? Ring a bell?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/FilipinismsFilipinoismsRingBell/glngp/post.htm#559043</link><pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:07:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:559043</guid><dc:creator>Mister Micawber</dc:creator><description>. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I would consider this exercise damagingly prescriptive; most are neither uniquely Filipino nor wrong.&amp;nbsp; However (and my comments refer to AmE/BrE):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Free subscription of... (Free subscription toâ¦) - prepo issue-- &lt;strong&gt;AmE/BrE uses the collocation subscribe to.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. Can I speak withâ¦? (May I speak withâ¦) - To sound more polite/ask permission?--&lt;strong&gt; Both OK.&amp;nbsp; &amp;#39;Can&amp;#39; is more casual but just as common.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. Come again? (I&amp;#39;m sorry I didn&amp;#39;t get quite get that / Excuse me? / I&amp;#39;m sorry would you please say that again?) - English trainers discourage agents to use this because they say that it could mean &amp;#39;cum again&amp;#39;)-&lt;strong&gt;- The English trainers are nuts.&amp;nbsp; Come again is common and casual.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Your examples in parentheses are overly formal for most situations.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. It&amp;#39;s for free! (It&amp;#39;s free. / It&amp;#39;s free of charge. / We&amp;#39;re sending it to you for free.) - Filipinos have been used to saying &amp;#39;It&amp;#39;s for free&amp;#39;. How do I say that it should be avoided? What makes it wrong?--&lt;strong&gt; Nothing makes it wrong; it&amp;#39;s fine.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5. Hold your line/For awhileâ¦ (Would you mind if I put you on hold for a second? / Please hold) - hold your line is absurd. any comment? what about for awhile?--&lt;strong&gt; I agree that &amp;#39;Hold your line&amp;#39; is not natural in AmE/BrE.&amp;nbsp; &amp;#39;Please hold&amp;#39; or &amp;#39;Could you hold, please&amp;#39; is the usual.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6. Open/ close the light/computer (Turn on/off the light/TV/computer) - how do I explain this? it sounds like opening/closing the tv for repair.- &lt;strong&gt;This seems to be a direct translation from Spanish? Tagalog?&amp;nbsp; At least, it is the same error that Japanese make.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;7. Do you mind waiting? Yes, I&amp;#39;ll wait. (No, not at all. / No, I don&amp;#39;t mind at all.) - YES is the issue. wrong response. any other feedback?--&lt;strong&gt; &amp;#39;Yes&amp;#39; is logically wrong but common when the tag ( e.g. &amp;#39;I&amp;#39;ll wait&amp;#39;) is also present; speakers seldom have the opportunity to stop and think about the &amp;#39;Do you mind?&amp;#39; form, and this includes native AmE/BrE speakers.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;8. Anything? (Is there anything I can do for you? / How may I help you?) - fragmented, seems vague?-&lt;strong&gt;- Yes, it seems vague and fragmentary out of context.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;9. I&amp;#39;ll ask her an apology. (I&amp;#39;ll apologize to her. / I should make an apology.) - this sounds illogical?-&lt;strong&gt;- Not a natural AmE/BrE formation&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;10. We take lunch. (We eat lunch. / We have lunch (every Sunday).)-- &lt;strong&gt;&amp;#39;Take&amp;#39; seems to be an occasional replacement in this context in many Englishe&lt;/strong&gt;s&lt;strong&gt;.&amp;nbsp; It is not an egregious variation.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;11. We accept repairs. (This shop repairs cars/cellphones, etc.)--&lt;strong&gt; Seems fine to me.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;12. We accept painting jobs. (This shop does painting jobs.)- &lt;strong&gt;Quite common.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;13. Tuck out (Untuck)- &lt;strong&gt;Odd.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;14. He was salvaged. (He was assassinated.)--&lt;strong&gt; A new meaning for the word for me, and it is not in the dictionary.&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt; Perhaps some confusion with &amp;#39;savaged&amp;#39;?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;15. She delivered her baby yesterday. (She had her baby yesterday. / Dr. Smith delivered her baby.)-- &lt;strong&gt;This is fine.&amp;nbsp; From the dictionary-- &amp;#39;to give birth to: &lt;span&gt;She delivered twins at 4 a.m. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;#39;&lt;br /&gt;16. Xerox (Photocopy)-- &lt;strong&gt;Very common in AmE at least.&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt; Among my generation, &amp;#39;to xerox&amp;#39; is perhaps more usual than &amp;#39;to photocopy&amp;#39;.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;17. Oppositor (Opposition member)-- &lt;strong&gt;A new word for me.&amp;nbsp; Not a bad formation, but perhaps difficult to understand by foreigners.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;18. Hand carry (Carry - on luggage)-- &lt;strong&gt;A new word, but reasonable.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;19. It&amp;#39;s traffic today. (Traffic is heavy.) -- &lt;strong&gt;It seems vague and fragmentary &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;20. Senatoriable (Senatorial candidate) -- &lt;strong&gt;Odder than #17&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;21. At around 2pm (At about 2pm) - around is Am? about is Brit?-&lt;strong&gt; Very common in AmE; it also appears with this meaning in the Cambridge dictionary.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;22. I failed in Accent training. (I failed accent training.)-- &lt;strong&gt;A common expression, though I prefer your alternative.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;23. We were under Mr. Johnson. (Mr. Johnson was our teacher.) - Filipinos are used to saying &amp;#39;That student is under my class&amp;#39; so this filipinism has started.-- &lt;strong&gt;In context, &amp;#39;We were under Mr. Johnson&amp;#39; sounds fine, while &amp;#39;That student is under my class&amp;#39; does not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;24. My brother is taking up law. (My brother is taking law. / My brother is studying law.) --&lt;strong&gt; &amp;#39;Take up&amp;#39; is common, but means the overall intention, not just the matriculation.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;25. Where are you studying? (Where do you go to school? / What school do you go to?)-&lt;strong&gt; &amp;#39;Where are you studying&amp;#39; is fine.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;26. Pass by my office before you go. (Drop by my office before you go.) - Brit/Am phrasal?-&lt;strong&gt;- Not AmE, at least.&amp;nbsp; &amp;#39;Stop by&amp;#39; or &amp;#39;Drop by&amp;#39;.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;27. We have one participant only. (We only have one participant.) - should they say &amp;#39;only one participant&amp;#39;?-- &lt;strong&gt;The &amp;#39;only&amp;#39; can go in several places; at the end is one of those places.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;28. I talked to her already. (I already talked to her.) - I need help on adverb order. This confuses all Filipinos and me too. Where should adverbs be placed?- &lt;strong&gt;Adverbs are relatively variable in their placement.&amp;nbsp; In this case, both are all OK.&amp;nbsp; More interesting is that AmE uses simple past more consistently with &amp;#39;yet&amp;#39; and &amp;#39;already&amp;#39; than does BrE, which prefers the perfect aspect.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;29. Will you be at the office at 7am? Actually. (Will you be at the office at 7am? Yes.)-- &lt;strong&gt;Not AmE/BrE&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;30. Actually, I like Jennifer Aniston. (I like Jennifer Aniston.) - Actually/basically has become Filipinos expressions.--&lt;strong&gt; I wouldn&amp;#39;t say that it is unique to Filipinos; many AmE speakers develop the habit in various contexts.&amp;nbsp; Too much is too much, however.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;31. As per Paul, all request forms should be signed by him. (As per Paul&amp;#39;s instructions, all request forms should be signed by him.)-- &lt;strong&gt;This is common bizspeak throughout the English-speaking world.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;32. Wanted: Sewer (Wanted: Tailor or seamstress)--&lt;strong&gt; Yes, it is certainly open to misinterpretation!&amp;nbsp; But &amp;#39;seamstress&amp;#39; is sexist.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;33. Take home (Take it home / To go. / For take out)-- &lt;strong&gt;&amp;#39;Take home food&amp;#39; seems like a regional variant of &amp;#39;take out food&amp;#39;.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;34. I felt kind of tired. (I felt rather tired.)-- &lt;strong&gt;&amp;#39;Kind of&amp;#39; is&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt; very&lt;/span&gt; common in informal AmE.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;35. As to the projectâ¦ (About the projectâ¦)-- &lt;strong&gt;A common formality in most Englishes.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;36. Thank you for that/this one. (Thank you for the information. / Thank you.) - I need to send this in a few minutes and I still couldn&amp;#39;t think of an explanation. Phrasing sounds awkward to me. But besides getting straight to the point, why did &amp;#39;for that/this one&amp;#39; make it wrong?--&lt;strong&gt; &amp;#39;One&amp;#39; is wrongly used; &amp;#39;information&amp;#39; is uncountable.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;37. I do love playing basketball/volleyball. (I love playing basketball/volleyball.) - this may sound right depending on the flow of the conversation, right? e.g. you don&amp;#39;t love playing... No, I do...-&lt;strong&gt;- You are correct.&amp;nbsp; This is called the emphatic &amp;#39;do&amp;#39;.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;38. Currently, I live in Quezon City right now. (Currently, I live in Quezon City. / I live in Quezon City.) - redundant - now and currently.- &lt;strong&gt;Yes, redundant.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;39. Actually, I like Microsoft, Symantec and Adobe (I like Microsoft Symantec and Adobe)--&lt;strong&gt; The comma is necessary if Microsoft and Symantec are different softwares.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;40. As per Mon, all request forms should be signed by him. (As per Paul&amp;#39;s instructions, all request forms should be signed by him.&lt;strong&gt;)-- This is the same as #31, and OK.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;41. I do apologize (I apologize.)-- &lt;strong&gt;This is fine indeed. It is the same as #37, and is more polite than your bracketed alternative.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;.</description></item><item><title>Filipinisms/Filipinoisms? Ring a bell?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/FilipinismsFilipinoismsRingBell/glnrm/post.htm</link><pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:26:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:558938</guid><dc:creator>samwalker</dc:creator><description>&lt;strong&gt;Has anyone heard about Filipinisms/Filipinoism?&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;hr style="COLOR:#d1d1e1;BACKGROUND-COLOR:#d1d1e1;" /&gt; &lt;div id="post_message_336030"&gt;Hi guys. In the call center industry, it refers to terms/phrases used by Filipinos in speaking and in writing (sometimes). They gave me a list with corrections and assigned me to send one Filipinism with corrections weekly. However, in my opinion, sending the filipinism and a correction seems not enough.&lt;br /&gt;I want to include reasons/explanations why a certain Filipinism is wrong but I&amp;#39;m neither a teacher nor a native Brit/Am so I don&amp;#39;t know how to exlain each entry/correction.&lt;br /&gt;I need your feedback for each entry (What makes them wrong? Is it grammatically incorrect? etc... How do I explain to agents?)&lt;br /&gt;Here is their list:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;Filipinisms are words or phrases that are ususally grammatically incorrect or are almost always results of transliteration.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Filipinism (Correct Usage)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Free subscription of... (Free subscription toâ¦) - prepo issue&lt;br /&gt;2. Can I speak withâ¦? (May I speak withâ¦) - To sound more polite/ask permission?&lt;br /&gt;3. Come again? (I&amp;#39;m sorry I didn&amp;#39;t get quite get that / Excuse me? / I&amp;#39;m sorry would you please say that again?) - English trainers discourage agents to use this because they say that it could mean &amp;#39;cum again&amp;#39;)&lt;br /&gt;4. It&amp;#39;s for free! (It&amp;#39;s free. / It&amp;#39;s free of charge. / We&amp;#39;re sending it to you for free.) - Filipinos have been used to saying &amp;#39;It&amp;#39;s for free&amp;#39;. How do I say that it should be avoided? What makes it wrong?&lt;br /&gt;5. Hold your line/For awhileâ¦ (Would you mind if I put you on hold for a second? / Please hold) - hold your line is absurd. any comment? what about for awhile?&lt;br /&gt;6. Open/ close the light/computer (Turn on/off the light/TV/computer) - how do I explain this? it sounds like opening/closing the tv for repair.&lt;br /&gt;7. Do you mind waiting? Yes, I&amp;#39;ll wait. (No, not at all. / No, I don&amp;#39;t mind at all.) - YES is the issue. wrong response. any other feedback?&lt;br /&gt;8. Anything? (Is there anything I can do for you? / How may I help you?) - fragmented, seems vague?&lt;br /&gt;9. I&amp;#39;ll ask her an apology. (I&amp;#39;ll apologize to her. / I should make an apology.) - this sounds illogical?&lt;br /&gt;10. We take lunch. (We eat lunch. / We have lunch (every Sunday).)&lt;br /&gt;11. We accept repairs. (This shop repairs cars/cellphones, etc.)&lt;br /&gt;12. We accept painting jobs. (This shop does painting jobs.)&lt;br /&gt;13. Tuck out (Untuck)&lt;br /&gt;14. He was salvaged. (He was assassinated.)&lt;br /&gt;15. She deliveredher baby yesterday. (She had her baby yesterday. / Dr. Smith delivered her baby.)&lt;br /&gt;16. Xerox (Photocopy)&lt;br /&gt;17. Oppositor (Opposition member)&lt;br /&gt;18. Hand carry (Carry - on luggage)&lt;br /&gt;19. It&amp;#39;s traffic today. (Traffic is heavy.)&lt;br /&gt;20. Senatoriable (Senatorial candidate)&lt;br /&gt;21. At around 2pm (At about 2pm) - around is Am? about is Brit?&lt;br /&gt;22. I failed in Accent training. (I failed accent training.)&lt;br /&gt;23. We were under Mr. Johnson. (Mr. Johnson was our teacher.) - Filipinos are used to saying &amp;#39;That student is under my class&amp;#39; so this filipinism has started.&lt;br /&gt;24. My brother is taking up law. (My brother is taking law. / My brother is studying law.)&lt;br /&gt;25. Where are you studying? (Where do you go to school? / What school do you go to?)&lt;br /&gt;26. Pass by my office before you go. (Drop by my office before you go.) - Brit/Am phrasal?&lt;br /&gt;27. We have one participant only. (We only have one participant.) - should they say &amp;#39;only one participant&amp;#39;?&lt;br /&gt;28. I talked to her already. (I already talked to her.) - I need help on adverb order. This confuses all Filipinos and me too. Where should adverbs be placed?&lt;br /&gt;29. Will you be at the office at 7am? Actually. (Will you be at the office at 7am? Yes.)&lt;br /&gt;30. Actually, I like Jennifer Aniston. (I like Jennifer Aniston.) - Actually/basically has become Filipinos expressions.&lt;br /&gt;31. As per Paul, all request forms should be signed by him. (As per Paul&amp;#39;s instructions, all request forms should be signed by him.)&lt;br /&gt;32. Wanted: Sewer (Wanted: Tailor or seamstress)&lt;br /&gt;33. Take home (Take it home / To go. / For take out)&lt;br /&gt;34. I felt kind of tired. (I felt rather tired.)&lt;br /&gt;35. As to the projectâ¦ (About the projectâ¦)&lt;br /&gt;36. Thank you for that/this one. (Thank you for the information. / Thank you.) - I need to send this in a few minutes and I still couldn&amp;#39;t think of an explanation. Phrasing sounds awkward to me. But besides getting straight to the point, why did &amp;#39;for that/this one&amp;#39; make it wrong?&lt;br /&gt;37. I do love playing basketball/volleyball. (I love playing basketball/volleyball.) - this may sound right depending on the flow of the conversation, right? e.g. you don&amp;#39;t love playing... No, I do...&lt;br /&gt;38. Currently, I live in Quezon City right now. (Currently, I live in Quezon City. / I live in Quezon City.) - redundant - now and currently.&lt;br /&gt;39. Actually, I like Microsoft, Symantec and Adobe (I like Microsoft Symantec and Adobe)&lt;br /&gt;40. As per Mon, all request forms should be signed by him. (As per Paul&amp;#39;s instructions, all request forms should be signed by him.)&lt;br /&gt;41. I do apologize (I apologize.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Seeing and hearing their errors frustrate me. I wanna help them and tell them why each entry is wrong/grammatically incorrect/vague/illogical/awkwardly phrased/etc. but I&amp;#39;m not a teacher.&lt;br /&gt;I would appreciate if someone could add exlanation to every entry... &lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Camp as knickers</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/CampAsKnickers/glgjh/post.htm#557063</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:29:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:557063</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;From www.m-w.com&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
      &lt;span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;3&lt;/sup&gt;camp&lt;/span&gt;
    Function:&lt;i&gt;noun&lt;/i&gt; Etymology:origin unknownDate:circa 1909
  &lt;div&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;exaggerated effeminate mannerisms exhibited especially by homosexuals&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;2 a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;something so outrageously artificial, affected, inappropriate, or out-of-date as to be considered amusing&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span&gt;b&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;:&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;a
style or mode of personal or creative expression that is absurdly
exaggerated and often fuses elements of high and popular culture &lt;span&gt;&amp;lt;a movie that celebrates &lt;i&gt;camp&lt;/i&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Most likely not the first meaning above.&amp;nbsp; Hence,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;u&gt;camp as knickers&lt;/u&gt;:&amp;nbsp; &lt;u&gt;amusingly excessive in style&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;CJ&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Memos show Clinton turmoil</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MemosShowClintonTurmoil/gkxvp/post.htm</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:05:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:554385</guid><dc:creator>Jackson6612</dc:creator><description>Memos show &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Clinton turmoil&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Question: I would have written &amp;#39;&amp;#39;Clinton&amp;#39;s turmoil&amp;#39;&amp;#39;. Why didn&amp;#39;t the author use apostrophe?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BY CRAIG GORDON AND TOM BRUNE | &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="color:#8b8b8b;"&gt;&amp;lt;email addresses removed by mod.&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;August 13, 2008&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Question: Why is semicolon used instead of comma to separate the email addresses above?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;WASHINGTON - In a fresh postmortem (=an examination of a plan or event that failed, done to discover why it failed, =autopsy) on Hillary Rodham Clinton&amp;#39;s presidential bid (=attempt to obtain or do something), newly published staff memos (=a short official note to another person in the same company or organization) and e-mails reveal a campaign hobbled (=to hobble something or someone means to make it more difficult for them to be successful or to achieve what they want) by internal rivalries (=a situation in which two or more people, teams, or companies are competing for something), faulty planning, bloated (=more than needed, =excessive) spending - and perhaps most important, Clinton&amp;#39;s own failure to make the hard decisions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Clinton offered herself to voters as a hyper-competent (=extra competent) executive ready to be president from day one. But atop (=on top of something) her own campaign, she was a hesitant leader, who allowed bitter infighting (=when members of the same group or organization argue, or compete with each other in an unfriendly way) to fester (=If an argument or bad feeling festers, it continues so that feelings of hate or dissatisfaction increase) among staffers over whether to go negative against Barack Obama, according to the Atlantic magazine.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The most bare-knuckled (=characterized by disorderly action and disregard for rules) lines of attack came from Clinton&amp;#39;s chief strategist, Mark Penn, who urged Clinton to highlight Obama&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;lack of American roots&amp;quot; due to his upbringing in Indonesia and Hawaii - saying he could only win if he faced Attila the Hun ((?406-453 AD) a king of the Huns (=an ancient people from Asia) who attacked and took control of large parts of the Roman Empire. He is famous for being violent and cruel).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But Clinton didn&amp;#39;t embrace Penn&amp;#39;s flag-waving (=the expression of strong national feelings, especially when these feelings seem too extreme) approach (=way of doing something), &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;which campaign aides (=someone whose job is to help someone who has an important job, especially a politician) insist was never seriously considered.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Question: Clinton didn&amp;#39;t embrace Penn&amp;#39;s approach because she did not consider it seriously. Therefore, what campaign aides were saying is redundant.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The article also says that Clinton at times grew frustrated and short-tempered - &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;including on the morning after her stunning third-place finish in Iowa in January, when aides on a call were silent.&lt;/span&gt; Clinton&amp;#39;s camp dismissed the story as &amp;quot;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;inside-the-Beltway gossip&lt;/span&gt;&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;old news.&amp;quot; And former campaign aides sharply disputed the notion of Clinton as an indecisive leader, with one campaign veteran saying, &amp;quot;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Nobody seems to want to remember the fact that we had so many successes and come-from-behind victories in this campaign ... and they are due in large part to Senator Clinton&amp;#39;s leadership.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Question: What does the line &lt;i&gt;including on the morning...when aides on a call were silent&lt;/i&gt; mean? If she finished third place, then why would the author describe it as stunning? What does &lt;i&gt;call&lt;/i&gt; mean in &lt;i&gt;when aides on a call were silent?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Question: What does the phrase &lt;/i&gt;inside-the-Beltway gossip&lt;i&gt; mean?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Question: What does the line &lt;/i&gt;Nobody seems to want to remember...to Senator Clinton&amp;#39;s leadership&amp;#39;&amp;#39; mean?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But the e-mails and memos offer vivid (=very clear and detailed) new details about &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;what had long been reported&lt;/span&gt; - that Clinton&amp;#39;s &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;headquarters was&lt;/span&gt; beset (=to make someone experience serious problems or dangers) by caustic (=bitter) internal battles involving Penn and former President Bill Clinton, who wanted to forcefully attack Obama, and others who wanted the New York senator to take a more positive tack (=method, =way of doing something). At one point, it was Bill Clinton &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;- and not Hillary -&lt;/span&gt; who approved the famed 3 a.m. phone call ad.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Question: &lt;i&gt;what had long been reported&lt;/i&gt; is passive past perfect tense. Am I right?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Question: I think &lt;i&gt;headquarters&lt;/i&gt; should take plural verb. What do you say?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Question: Why are the hyphens used in &lt;i&gt;-and not Hillary-&lt;/i&gt;? I believe commas would do instead?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Adding to the turmoil was the fact that the campaign had little strategy and no money left to seriously compete in the &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;post-Super Tuesday&lt;/span&gt; contests - having (=the form having with a past participle can be used to introduce a clause in which you mention an action which had already happened before another action began) &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;burned through&lt;/span&gt; $106 million before Iowa. That allowed Obama to win 12 straight contests and effectively wrap up (=to finish a job, meeting etc) the nomination.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Question: What does &lt;i&gt;burned through&lt;/i&gt; mean?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the end, the campaign&amp;#39;s strategy came to reflect some of the internal turmoil, as Clinton veered (=changed course) from attacking Obama to emphasizing &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;her personal side&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Question: What does &lt;i&gt;her personal side&lt;/i&gt; mean?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Penn did offer some advice in March 2007 that &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;proved on the mark&lt;/span&gt; - Clinton&amp;#39;s path to victory lay with women and lower- and working-class voters.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Question: What does &lt;i&gt;proved on the mark&lt;/i&gt; mean? I couldn&amp;#39;t find it in the dictionary.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But by the time Clinton finally settled on that strategy to win the later primaries, it was too late.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Excerpts from the memos&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;All of these articles about his boyhood in Indonesia and his life in Hawaii are geared towards showing his background is diverse, multicultural and putting that in a new light ... It also exposes a very strong weakness for him - his roots to basic American values and culture are at best (=even when considered in the most positive way) limited. I cannot imagine America electing a president during a time of war who is not at his&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt; center&lt;/span&gt; fundamentally American in his thinking and in his values.&amp;quot; Strategist Mark Penn, from a March 19, 2007, memo to Hillary Rodham Clinton advising her to attack Barack Obama for his &amp;quot;lack of American roots.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Question: What does &lt;i&gt;centre&lt;/i&gt; mean in the above context?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;The &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;right&lt;/span&gt; knows Obama is unelectable except perhaps against Attila the Hun, and a third party would come in then anyway.&amp;quot; Penn, from the same memo.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Question: Does &lt;i&gt;right&lt;/i&gt; refer to right wing in the above context?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;This has been a very instructive call, talking to myself&lt;/span&gt;.&amp;quot; Clinton, before angrily hanging up on a staff &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;conference call&lt;/span&gt; the day after &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;coming in third&lt;/span&gt; in Iowa in January. &amp;quot;She complained of being outmaneuvered (=to gain an advantage over someone by using cleverer or more skilful plans or methods) in Iowa and being painted as the establishment candidate,&amp;quot; according to the Atlantic - but was met with near-silence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Question: I would have written &lt;i&gt;This has been..., talking to me&lt;/i&gt;. Why did she use &lt;i&gt;myself&lt;/i&gt;?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Question: What is a &lt;i&gt;conference call&lt;/i&gt;? Is it some kind of telephone call which address many poeple?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Question: Why is &lt;i&gt;in&lt;/i&gt; used in &lt;i&gt;coming in third&lt;/i&gt;?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;STOP IT!! &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;I have help my tongue for weeks&lt;/span&gt;. After this morning&amp;#39;s WP story, no longer. This makes me sick. &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;This circular firing squad&lt;/span&gt; that is occurring is unattractive, unprofessional, unconscionable, and unacceptable ... It must stop.&amp;quot; Robert Barnett, a Clinton lawyer and Washington insider, from a March 6, 2008, e-mail to campaign staff after a Washington Post story detailed the infighting.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Question: What does &lt;i&gt;I have help my tongue for weeks&lt;/i&gt; mean?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Question: What does &lt;i&gt;This circular firing squad&lt;/i&gt; mean?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Question: Were the comments in the last paragraph made by Robert Barnett?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: please check a short copywriting text.</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/CheckShortCopywritingText/gkxrz/post.htm#554307</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:52:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:554307</guid><dc:creator>ernest1a</dc:creator><description>I made wrong expression. It is not copywriting text but script text for speaker for website video tutorial. Here is corrected version, I would like to ask you if you can check for any nonsense or any huge grammar mistake. Tnx! :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Â»Hi,&lt;br /&gt;This is Nick, welcome to [name of portal]. Let&amp;#39;s go to the tour!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[name of portal] is about living places, people from those places and their customs. You can explore most famous places like Paris or Rio de Janeiro for example, or you can discover idyllic places which you have never heard of before.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Most important, you can find somebody from the place you want to visit. A person who lives there must know a lot of information about that place. And not just that! You can also find a free hosting or a person who will guide you or making you company.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[name of portal] gives you all the information you need about the place. And if any information you need is not posted yet, you can simply send an automatic request to all our members from that place.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even if you don&amp;#39;t plan to travel you can use [name of portal] to show to the world where you live, share photos, videos, updates and other stuff.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your living place is showed in your profile and everybody from the same place can edit that place, add new sections, photos or videos. It can be very funny to build a page of your living place together with many other members near you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Behind that it is a fully secured network system. The system calculates peoples credibility score which makes sure only credible members can contact other credible members.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So it is Useful, funny and also highly secured.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ready to start? [name of portal]!&amp;quot;</description></item><item><title>Re: drum vs barrel</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/DrumVsBarrel/gwrkb/post.htm#540601</link><pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 03:40:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:540601</guid><dc:creator>Avangi</dc:creator><description>Just my impression (I&amp;#39;m way out of date on this.)&amp;nbsp; In my experience, industrial products, especially lubricants, were purchased in 55-gal. steel drums&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; sometimes 30-gal.&amp;nbsp; These were cylindrical, with two ridges formed into the circumference for reinforcement.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think of barrels as wooden, assembled from curved &amp;quot;staves,&amp;quot; giving the barrel a &amp;quot;bulging&amp;quot; shape.&amp;nbsp; I think of Budweiser being &amp;quot;beechwood aged&amp;quot; in such barrels.&amp;nbsp; The famous polka, &amp;quot;Roll Out the Barrel&amp;quot; refers to a barrel of beer being rolled across the floor at a dance.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Going back even before my time, some food items such as pickles were sold in bulk from barrels in the store.&amp;nbsp; You still hear the expression, &amp;quot;cash on the barrel head.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Of course these days the most famous barrel is a barrel of oil, which is actually just a unit of measure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Everything is now made of plastic, as your referenced pictures show.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Best wishes,&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; - A.</description></item><item><title>Re: The "on" before date or day</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheOnBeforeDateOrDay/gghkn/post.htm#532810</link><pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:00:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:532810</guid><dc:creator>Cool Breeze</dc:creator><description>&amp;nbsp;The preposition is indeed sometimes dropped before the days of the week in newspapers: &lt;i&gt;He will arrive in Cairo [on] Wednesday. &lt;/i&gt;The resultant &lt;i&gt;Wednesday&lt;/i&gt; becomes what in some other languages is called an accusative of time. Dropping the preposition is also fairly common in informal style, which has led some people to think that dropping the preposition isn&amp;#39;t as good English as having it in the expression.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;However, it is wise to use discretion in leaving out the preposition. If omitting the preposition is liable to cause confusion or misunderstanding, don&amp;#39;t drop it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CB &lt;br /&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: fishing trip</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/FishingTrip/gzdbw/post.htm#526583</link><pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:48:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:526583</guid><dc:creator>Avangi</dc:creator><description>Most of what we call &amp;quot;capes&amp;quot; are big enough to accomodate a town or two or three&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; Cape Canaveral,&amp;nbsp; Cape Cod.&amp;nbsp; In New England, Cape Cod is simply referred to as &amp;quot;the cape.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; The ones you&amp;#39;re referring to are usually called &amp;quot;points,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;a point of land,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;where the land juts out.&amp;quot; &amp;nbsp; The larger ones often have (proper) names.&amp;nbsp; &amp;quot;Point Magu&amp;quot; is a town up the coast from LA which has a military installation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yes, what you describe is common and okay for fishing.&amp;nbsp; Watch out for a rogue wave that can sweep you off the rocks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Ray&amp;#39;s right about the weather expression.&amp;nbsp; It&amp;#39;s a bit unusual.&amp;nbsp; You need to cut the weather guys a little slack.&amp;nbsp; &lt;em&gt;It looks good/ should be good/&amp;nbsp; is supposed to be good according to the forcast.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/em&gt;We often say&lt;em&gt;, They&amp;#39;re expecting/ predicting good weather.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BTW, I&amp;#39;m still thinking about the metal detector guys, hoping for a lucid moment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; - A.</description></item><item><title>Re: as of</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/AsOf/2/gzrbd/Post.htm#525711</link><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:15:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:525711</guid><dc:creator>Avangi</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I agree too, and have for all of my adult life, except for three or four hours last night, when I understood that the definition from the questioner&amp;#39;s dictionary was the correct one.&amp;nbsp; When I found that MW Unabridged defined the expression as &amp;quot;at or on (a specific time or date),&amp;quot; with nothing about &amp;quot;starting at&amp;quot; and nothing about a second usage, I knew the questioner&amp;#39;s dictionary was wrong.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The definition he quoted simply does not allow the Bush example he quoted, which is what I was calling the first type, and which MrWordy and CJ have recently supported.&amp;nbsp; The MW Unabridged definition (which Marius also gave) allows both types.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Best regards,&amp;nbsp; - A.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: from an apology of poetry</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/FromAnApologyOfPoetry/gvxbl/post.htm#524852</link><pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:27:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:524852</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;Stephen
Conway&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;1995&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p style="text-align:center;" align="center"&gt;&lt;span&gt;Literature and Virtue in Sidneyâs âApology for
Poetryâ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In &amp;quot;An Apology for Poetry&amp;quot;
Sir Philip Sidney attempts to reassert the fundamental importance of literature
to society in general as well as to other creative and intellectual endeavors.
Though Sidney&amp;#39;s work does provide a synthesis (and in some cases an aberration)
of much Greek and Roman literary theory, his argument aspires to go beyond an
esoteric academic debate. Literature can &amp;quot;teach and delight&amp;quot; in a
manner which other methods of communication do not possess (138). The
moral/ethical impact any literary text has upon a reader is of paramount
importance to Sidney. The argument Sidney presents and develops is built around
the assumption that literature has the capacity to teach most effectively and
to demonstrate virtue. Perhaps in better understanding how Sidney specifically
supports this claim, we can better assess its strength or validity &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Sidney places literature in an
hierarchical relationship with all other forms of learning; literature inhabits
the highest and most influential tier. Literature is &amp;quot;the first
light-giver to ignorance&amp;quot;, and from it all other sources of knowledge have
been nurtured (135). As the first use of language beyond the completely
utilitarian, literature stretches and expands language to accommodate broader
and more conceptual inquiries. Though an ardent admirer of Platonic philosophy,
Sydney, in order to serve his intellectual exercise, rewrites or rehabilitates
Plato&amp;#39;s harsh stance on the worthlessness of literature. Unlike Plato&amp;#39;s poet
who perpetuates images far removed from the Truth, Sidney&amp;#39;s poet can dip into
the world of Forms, the Ideal, and provide us with knowledge of virtue. While
the tangible world of appearances &amp;quot;is brazen, the poets only deliver a
golden&amp;quot; (137). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Against the established disciplines
of history and philosophy, Sidney also uses a revision of Aristotle&amp;#39;s &lt;u&gt;Poetics&lt;/u&gt;
to help demonstrate how literature mediates the interests of both forms of
knowledge in order to teach virtue. Where philosophy deals solely with the
universal, history is consumed with the particular. Literature is able to deal
with the same abstract&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;moral/ethical
(universal) concepts with which philosophy grapples by providing examples
rooted in concrete, albeit fictionalized, details. History is too concerned
with the accurate recording of facts to make any conjectures on such broad,
less substantiated concepts. Literature exists between and above history and
philosophy because the knowledge it conveys (knowledge of the good) is the best
and most useful knowledge that exists. As Sidney states, &amp;quot;no learning is
so good as that which teacheth and moveth to virtue, and that none can both
teach and move thereto so much as poetry&amp;quot; (149).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Sidney attempts to provide an
utterly rational foundation for his claims, however. He develops a systematic
analysis of the mechanisms employed by literature to teach virtue. He sorts
literature according to its works and its parts. The works of a literary text
can be seen in four specific ethical effects which it should seek to elicit in
a reader. Sidney defines these four as: the purifying of wit, enriching of
memory, enabling of judgement, and enlarging of conceit (139). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In order to purify the wit,
literature must engage the intellect in new and different ways. By allowing the
reader to view a particular idea, character, or situation from a new or novel
vantage point, literature is able to provide a vicarious, condensed education
available through no other medium. Memories gathered from these fictional
experiences provide a common frame of reference between otherwise disparate
individuals. Fictional examples become touchstones which can be understood and
experienced more easily by others. Literary memories point toward a more
universal experience and invite the reader to find new and possibly profound
meaning(s) in personal experiences as well. Sidney implies that a life without
such memories would surely be impoverished. Building upon the first two works,
literature also provides a reader with ample and necessary practise in making
moral/ethical judgments. A literary text provides a safe outlet for such
judgments to be made, discussed, and re-examined. Personal and societal codes
of behavior are shaped, both strengthened and challenged, by this practise.
Literature engages the reader actively with virtue as a part of this decision
making process. To enlarge the conceit, literature also expands a reader&amp;#39;s
knowledge and understanding of language (in terms of style, structure, form) as
well. This, in turn, opens new modes of expression, new metaphors, to a reader.
The ability to create new and different texts is stamped into the very nature
of literature. The ability to articulate and teach virtue effectively is
constantly in flux from generation to generation. Literature is constantly in
demand of new metaphors in order to remain resilient and relevant. Each
narrative, housing the potential to fundamentally redefine and reevaulate
itself, represents a metaphor for the&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;world. Thus it is vital that literature possess this self perpetuating
but continually evolving quality.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;To discuss literature in its various
parts, Sidney develops a series of stylistic, structural, and thematic
categories: pastoral, elegiac, iambic, satiric, comic, tragic, lyric, and
heroic. Each category (part) of literature also attempts to elicit a specific
ethical response from the reader. The parts themselves are arranged hierarchically
as well, with the heroic being placed at the top. Though an interesting (if
historically outdated) method of division, Sidney&amp;#39;s categories seem to
elaborate more than advance his general argument, however. He places more
emphasis on the ethical questions posed by the works of a literary text, rather
than its parts.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Sidney concludes his comprehensive
defense of literature by attempting to answer various challenges to its merit
and continued support. The most serious of these allegations, that literature
is &amp;quot;the nurse of abuse, infecting us with pestilent desires&amp;quot;, Sidney
is forced to acknowledge as true to a greater or lesser extent. This might
seem, at first glance, to refute or undermine the argument he has labored so
long to create. Sidney, however, has qualified his praise of literature from
the onset. Literature can contribute to learning virtue but does not ensure
virtuous action. Because he is aware of the fact that literature can and is
abused by some, Sidney describes literature as a tool with the greatest
potential for good, but not an inherently virtuous invention in and of itself.
The destructive qualities evoked by literature are products of the fallible
fragile human beings who created it, rather than an indictment of the evil
nature of all literature in general. Do not, as Sidney states, &amp;quot;say that
poetry abuseth man&amp;#39;s wit, but that man&amp;#39;s wit abuseth poetry&amp;quot; (150). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Sidney&amp;#39;s responses have become the
mainstay of the supporters of a liberal arts education. Unfortunately,
literature has become sanctified to the extent that knowledge of literature has
become practically synonymous with virtuous action. Such modern interpretations
of Sidney&amp;#39;s defense of literature seem to strike against the very heart of his
argument. Sidney seems to understand all too well that human beings house both
virtuous and vicious impulses; it is within our power to infuse our creations
with both the sinister and the sublime. Because this is true of any human
invention, Sidney counsels that the potential of literature for good or ill
should not be easily discounted or dismissed.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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