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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Expressions tag:Punctuation' matching tags 'Expressions' and 'Punctuation'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aExpressions+tag%3aPunctuation&amp;tag=Expressions,Punctuation&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Expressions tag:Punctuation' matching tags 'Expressions' and 'Punctuation'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3164.27388)</generator><item><title>Re: subordinate clauses?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/SubordinateClauses/gdwwc/post.htm#518315</link><pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 08:57:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:518315</guid><dc:creator>Jackson6612</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Anonymous&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;p&gt;Why are number 1&amp;#39;s correct, whereas number 2&amp;#39;s are not? Please note the commas.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="color:#0000bf;"&gt;First Part:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color:#0000bf;"&gt;1. Stealing is illegal, because it is a crime.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="color:#0000bf;"&gt;2. Stealing is illegal because it is a crime.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="color:#ff8080;"&gt;Second Part:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="color:#ff8080;"&gt;1. Fishing is important to us, since it generates a lot of&amp;nbsp;income.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p style="color:#ff8080;"&gt;2. Since&amp;nbsp;fishing generates a lot income, it is important to us.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can understand what thing is baffling you. In the First Part you would be thinking about the use of that comma.&lt;strong&gt; I don&amp;#39;t think that the second sentence is incorrect.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;font color="#000000"&gt;Sometimes what choice of words/punctuation an author uses in certain expressions is completely at his discretion.&lt;/font&gt; So both sentences in the First Part are correct. &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt; is used when stating the reason for something. In the following sentence no comma is used in front of &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt;. &lt;i&gt;The President has played a shrewd diplomatic game because from the outset he called for direct talks with the United States...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now come to the Second Part. &lt;i&gt;since&lt;/i&gt; is used to introduce reasons or explanations. &lt;i&gt;since&lt;/i&gt;=&lt;i&gt;as&lt;/i&gt;. &lt;i&gt;since&lt;/i&gt; can also be used at the start of the sentences but only when the sentence begins with the subordinate clause. e.g. &lt;i&gt;Since you are unable to answer, we should ask someone else&lt;/i&gt;. In that sentence you cannot use &lt;i&gt;since&lt;/i&gt; in front of &lt;i&gt;we&lt;/i&gt; because the clause starting with &lt;i&gt;we&lt;/i&gt; is the main one.&lt;strong&gt; The second sentence is also correct. It&amp;#39;s just that it starts with the subordinate clause.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Kind regards,&lt;br /&gt;Jackson</description></item><item><title>Re: grammar help needed</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/GrammarHelpNeeded/gbzjc/post.htm#507639</link><pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:42:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:507639</guid><dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;1) Where I think we need to carve out some territory of definition in practice is to say that proselytism is relating to people different from oneself by using means and methods with ulterior motives in order to convert. But what&amp;#39;s happening in secular literature is that it is moving even beyond the ulterior method definition, where some secular specialists on human rights and international law use proselytism to mean &amp;quot;any attempt by religious believers to win converts from other religions or from your religion.&amp;quot; And when we see proselytism move into that extensive and broad &lt;b&gt;an&lt;/b&gt; expression, it then curtails &lt;font color="#000000"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;strike&gt;&lt;strong&gt;on&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/strike&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/font&gt; the invitation to witness and to make meaning for people, in terms of engaging them around the validity of Christian perspective.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;Can &lt;b&gt;an&lt;/b&gt; be deleted? &lt;font color="#000000"&gt;No. &lt;/font&gt;Kindly check punctuation usage in the above passage and insert punctuation where needed. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;You might consider not starting sebnetenes with &amp;#39;But&amp;#39; and &amp;#39;And&amp;#39;. Could you perhaps say &amp;#39;However&amp;#39; and &amp;#39;Moreover&amp;#39;?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;(2) They have a vision for what I would call &amp;amp;ldquo;soul care,&amp;amp;rdquo; without the same vision and commitment to social care. May I suggest to us that mature evangelists have discerning minds that believe in the whole counsel of God? May I suggest to us, as you listen to that definition, that evangelists are not restricted to religion?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;May I suggest to us, as we think about engagement, can we first of all give permission and take permission. That is to say, people have the right to self-define. I also need to take the responsibility to self-define.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;Is the usage &amp;quot; May I suggest to us&amp;quot; ok? Please check&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt; It seems a bit oddd to say &amp;#39;us&amp;#39; here. Why not just say &amp;#39;May I suggest&amp;#39;?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;(3) We have surrender&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;ed&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; to life-denying violence that simply incites more deadly and devastating violence.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;Is the usage of &amp;quot; We have surrender to&amp;quot; ok? Please check.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;(4) Half of them were Muslim and half of them were Christian.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt; This is OK, because the two words are used as adjectives.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;Should the above sentence have a plural usage &amp;quot;Half of them were Muslim&lt;b&gt;s&lt;/b&gt; and half of them were Christian&lt;b&gt;s&lt;/b&gt;.&amp;quot; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;This is also OK, but the two words are nouns.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;(5) We need more modeling &lt;b&gt;of&lt;/b&gt; how to deal with diversity in positive ways.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;Can &lt;b&gt;of&lt;/b&gt; be replaced with &lt;b&gt;on&lt;/b&gt;? Please check. E&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;ither is acceptable.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;(6) One of my appeals in the Canadian context has been that&lt;strong&gt;&lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;,&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; if we had been better at dealing with diversity between us as Christians in this country, we would be relating to cultural diversity &lt;b&gt;in&lt;/b&gt; a lot more positively today than we are at this point.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;Is the &lt;b&gt;in&lt;/b&gt; insertion ok? Please check. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;No, you need to remove it.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;Best wishes, Clive&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>grammar help needed</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/GrammarHelpNeeded/gbzhn/post.htm</link><pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:13:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:507616</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;(1) Where I think we need to carve out some territory of definition in practice is to say that proselytism is relating to people different from oneself by using means and methods with ulterior motives in order to convert. But what&amp;#39;s happening in secular literature is that it is moving even beyond the ulterior method definition, where some secular specialists on human rights and international law use proselytism to mean &amp;quot;any attempt by religious believers to win converts from other religions or from your religion.&amp;quot; And when we see proselytism move into that extensive and broad &lt;b&gt;an&lt;/b&gt; expression, it then curtails on the invitation to witness and to make meaning for people, in terms of engaging them around the validity of Christian perspective.&lt;/p&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;p&gt;Can &lt;b&gt;an&lt;/b&gt; be deleted? Kindly check punctuation usage in the above passage and insert punctuation where needed.&lt;/p&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;p&gt;(2) They have a vision for what I would call &amp;amp;ldquo;soul care,&amp;amp;rdquo; without the same vision and commitment to social care. May I suggest to us that mature evangelists have discerning minds that believe in the whole counsel of God? May I suggest to us, as you listen to that definition, that evangelists are not restricted to religion?&lt;/p&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;p&gt;May I suggest to us, as we think about engagement, can we first of all give permission and take permission. That is to say, people have the right to self-define. I also need to take the responsibility to self-define.&lt;/p&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;p&gt;Is the usage &amp;quot; May I suggest to us&amp;quot; ok? Please check&lt;/p&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;p&gt;(3) We have surrender to life-denying violence that simply incites more deadly and devastating violence.&lt;/p&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;p&gt;Is the usage of &amp;quot; We have surrender to&amp;quot; ok? Please check.&lt;/p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;p&gt;(4) Half of them were Muslim and half of them were Christian.&lt;/p&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;p&gt;Should the above sentence have a plural usage &amp;quot;Half of them were Muslim&lt;b&gt;s&lt;/b&gt; and half of them were Christian&lt;b&gt;s&lt;/b&gt;.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;p&gt;(5) We need more modeling &lt;b&gt;of&lt;/b&gt; how to deal with diversity in positive ways.&lt;/p&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;p&gt;Can &lt;b&gt;of&lt;/b&gt; be replaced with &lt;b&gt;on&lt;/b&gt;? Please check.&lt;/p&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;p&gt;(6) One of my appeals in the Canadian context has been that if we had been better at dealing with diversity between us as Christians in this country, we would be relating to cultural diversity &lt;b&gt;in&lt;/b&gt; a lot more positively today than we are at this point.&lt;/p&gt;&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;p&gt;Is the &lt;b&gt;in&lt;/b&gt; insertion ok? Please check.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>it's my second draft.</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ItsMySecondDraft/zxlmj/post.htm</link><pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 05:46:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:489779</guid><dc:creator>nocy</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;it&amp;#39;s my second draft.&amp;nbsp;please give&amp;nbsp;me&amp;nbsp;any advice. i want it to be natural to read.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;expression,grammar(especially,&amp;nbsp;pronoun is&amp;nbsp;difficult), punctuation marks etc..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;this is my first trial of english composition.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a title="(ë¬¸ìì ì²ì)" name="[ë¬¸ìì ì²ì]"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;=======================================================&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Wisdom for Money&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;For a long time, people have had a tendency to believe that money is the&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;root of all evil.&amp;nbsp; Even those who were rich and in high class didn&amp;#39;t like to talk&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;about money.&amp;nbsp; As far as I know, this is because in the Bible, richness is&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;considered as evil.&amp;nbsp; For example, &amp;quot;It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;a needle, than it is for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; However, can&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;we do anything without money, these days?&amp;nbsp; I guess nobody can answer &amp;quot;yes.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;Thus, it is certain that money is essential to us.&amp;nbsp; What we should do is not to&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;avoid it but learn about how to use it.&amp;nbsp; We need wisdom for money.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;First of all, we have to know how to save money. &amp;nbsp;If we know a little bit&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;about the tax system, we can save much money.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;For example,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;( i&amp;nbsp;have to&amp;nbsp;write an&amp;nbsp;example here,&amp;nbsp;but it isn&amp;#39;t easy to find )&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Secondly, we need to know how to spend money.&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp; If we spend money&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;with the plan about how to spend, we will not waste money. ( here, too )&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; In conclusion, money is such an important part of our lives that we should&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;be able to control it.&amp;nbsp; Although there are proverbs and stories in which money&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;seems to make human beings corrupted, that is actually not because of money.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;This is because the way to control it is wrong.&amp;nbsp; If we use it properly, money can&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;give us not only richness but also happiness.&amp;nbsp; We need wisdom for money.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="COLOR:#000000;TEXT-ALIGN:justify;"&gt;== THANK YOU FOR READING&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>(Unknown 22884)OHHH I FINALLY CAN POST!!!</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Unknown22884OhhhFinallyPost/zhlxk/post.htm</link><pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 01:51:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:455423</guid><dc:creator>Jen001</dc:creator><description>&lt;P dir=ltr&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"The Change of the Characteristics in the passage from &lt;EM&gt;The Hours&lt;/EM&gt;"&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The passage from the novel &lt;I&gt;The Hours&lt;/I&gt; by Michael Cunningham is intriguing. The passage illustrates the difference between the character's characteristics in different time settings: past and present. This difference is clearly shown through the contrasting structure, imagery and language.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; The structure reflects the division of the time setting and helps to contrast the different characteristics. The passage has two paragraphs, each describing the character's thoughts and perception about a same place, of the past and present. The length of each paragraph is different; the one from the past is much longer than the other one from the&amp;nbsp; present. This can be related to each of the paragraph's sentence construction. In the first paragraph, about the past, the lengths of the sentences are very long. The first sentence takes eight lines, lengthened continuously within commas, semi-colons and colons. In fact, in one sentence, there are five commas, five semi-colons and a colon. This overly-continued sentence gives a sense of unfiltered, informal, and unrestricted flowing of thoughts. Moreover, the use of brackets, âsome sort of wood(cedar? Camphor?),â seems to be less sophisticated, compared to using dashes or other punctuations of the same function. However, in the second paragraph of the present, the sentence construction is shown contrastingly. The paragraph starts with a short simple sentence: âShe turns down Bleecker, goes up Thomson.â Also, in this paragraph, there are four sentences in six lines, and three of the four sentences are written in simple sentence, including the example above. Although there are a few commas in some of the sentences, there is no semi-colon, but only a colon in the last sentence. The colon is used in a very appropriate way, functioning to introduce the list of âthingsâ, such as âjewelryâ and âjackets.â Thus, within the brief and concise sentence construction, the character in the present appears to be more mature, filtered and sophisticated than in the past. However, as a result of that, the sense of youthful, unfiltered freedom cannot be found anymore in the present.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; In addition to the structure, the contrasting imagery of each paragraph demonstrates further differences of the characteristic in the past and present. As both paragraphs are of the same setting, the image of the same place is described at each time. So, the consistent place makes the comparison between the two more distinctive and reliable. The imagery of the place is very vivid in the past, not only within the visual sense, but also within the auditory and olfactory senses, whereas that of the past only relies on the sense of sight. For example, in the past, âthe neighborhoodâ is depicted as âthe center of something new and wildâ in âthe city where the sound of guitars drifted all nightâ and âwhere the stores â¦ smelled the way â¦ Arab bazaars must smell.â This is detail, imaginative and lively, even the âArab bazaarsâ creates a somewhat mystical and adventurous atmosphere. This interesting and passionate depiction is being minimized in the present into three words: an âimitation of itself.â It is now âa watered-down carnival for tourists,â which gives a sense of inactivity and boredom. Also, the stores now âall sell essentially the same things,â such as âsouvenir T-shirts.â This seems to be dull, with no excitement or creativity or passion. This changed imagery, depicted by the character, rather shows the change in the character's perception. The change in perception is demonstrated more clearly within the notion of the âdoorâ and âalley.â In the past, she says, âif you passed through the wrong door or down the wrong alley you would meet a fate,â however, in the present, she âknows that behind these doors, and down these alleys lies nothing more or less than people living their lives.â In the past, she seems to be more concerned with the 'inner' world of thought or imagination. Whereas in the present, she seems to be more grounded in the external world of physical reality. As like the previously discussed change in the sentence structure, she is now more sophisticated, knowledgeable and realistic than the past. Also, as like the image of the place, her perception changed from the creative, interesting and adventurous to the boring, predictable and filtered way. Thus, the contrasting imagery of the past and present reflects the similar change in the character's perception.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; While the structure and the imagery convey the distinctive change in the characteristics of the character, the contrasting use of language supports those differences. More specifically, the diction [dash]shown in the past and the present[dash] is comparable. Reflecting the imagery of the varied senses, the words and expressions used in the past are also varied and animated, such as âincense and richâ and âdung-y dustâ describing the smell of the stores. These two expressions, âincense and richâ and âdung-y dustâ are contrasting; they express the diversity of the object. Moreover, the speaker creates a non-existing adjective, âdung-y.â The extra adding of â-yâ grants a more animated image, and it gives a sense of freedom and even somewhat childishness. The âsmellâ is then described as âsomething fruitily, fertilely rotting.â Again, she creates a non-existing adverb, âfruitily,â expressing the scent rather vividly, which would be sour as it ârots.â The other adverb âfertilelyâ contributes to create a sense of abundance and richness of the imagery. However, the use of those two positive adverbs, modifying the negative verb ârottingâ seems to be oxymoron in âfruit[full]â or âfertile,â as well as the use of adjective âdisreputable,â following ânew and wild.â The oxymoron adds an unpredictable sense to the imagery and hence to the depicter's thoughts. On the other hand, in the present, the adjectives used to describe the âcityâ and the âstores,â are ânothing,â âless,â âsame,â and âstill.â All of them are negative and reflect the boredom, dullness and hopelessness. More significantly, the speaker uses the adverb, âGrotesquelyâ before describing how âthe same bars and coffeehouses are still [th]ereâ, showing the character's cynical characteristic. So does the use of the adjective âcheapâ for the goods at the stores. Thus, in the past, the character uses language interestingly [dash] it is diverse, lively and creative [dash]&amp;nbsp;whereas that of the past is inactive, hopeless and cynical. These differences are directly reflecting the character's contrasting, changed characteristic.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; The change of the characteristic seems to be abrupt. As a cause, something would have happened to her, that is not shown in the passage. However, an assumption can be drawn within the evidences from the passage. There is a shift in the first paragraph within âHere,â showing the shifted tense from the past to the past perfect. In the past perfect, there is a scene of Clarissa, the major character, and her boyfriend Richard. She seems to appreciate Richard a lot, for example, she does not use the pronoun 'he' for âRichard,â even though he is the only male character. So, in a sentence, Richard is successively repeated three times, âwith Richard, when Richard â¦ when Richard.â Moreover, she describes his appearance in detail; he âwas nineteen,â âa firm-featured, hard-eyed, not-quite-beautiful dark-haired boy with an impossibly long and graceful, very pale neck.â So, to describe Richard, she combines an adjective and a noun to create a single adjective, such as âhard-eyed.â This shows her seriousness about describing him precisely. His âimpossibly longâ and âvery paleâ neck would seem negative, if not for the complementary adjective âgraceful.â Also, the adverb âimpossiblyâ gives a sense of special and unusual feeling for the person. Besides the use of language, the use of punctuation should also be noted. There are many commas, causing the sentences to seem choppy. This would be imitating the feeling of uncertainty and the tension in the situation. The uncertainty of the situation is shown in the line, ââ¦about what? A kiss? Had Richard kissed her, or had she, Clarissaâ¦,â also the tension created as they âhad certainly argued.â Then, the reason for the âargu[ment]â is explained: âClarissa wanted her freedom and Richard wanted, well, too much.â It is notable that as Richard âwanted â¦ too muchâ relating to the âkiss,â the pronoun 'he' is used as âdidn't &lt;I&gt;he&lt;/I&gt; always?â In this case, however, the pronoun 'he' seems to more likely indicate every 'man', rather than particularly âRichard.â Thereafter the paragraph ends, and the paragraph of the present starts. It is not sure whether the abrupt change in Clarissa's characteristic is due to âRichardâ or not. Although it is not, it is evident that Clarissa once considered and cared about him quite specially.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Despite of the uncertain reason, the change in the Clarissa's characteristic from the past to the present is shown clearly throughout&amp;nbsp; the contrasting structure, imagery and language. The characteristic includes the thoughts and perception, which were unrestricted, unfiltered, creative and animated in the past; whereas in the present, they are shown&amp;nbsp; restricted, filtered, dull and inactive. The change is extreme, but no particular evidence for the extremity is being suggested, except the short scene with Richard. Thus, this passage not only introduces the setting and the character, but also evokes the reader's curiosity: What has happened to Clarissa?&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;I really really really appreciate for your help... Thank you..!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Commentary on Hamlet's soliloquy</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/CommentaryHamletsSoliloquy/zzpkr/post.htm#446675</link><pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:28:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:446675</guid><dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Hi,&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Where you have put semi-colons, I'd usually use commas. I have also suggested some other changes to your punctuation. My general advice is not to get into the habit of using semi-colons and colons. They can often make tyour meaning more obscure rather than more clear.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;You seem to have a very good understanding of this topic. I've broken up your one huge paragraph into two.&amp;nbsp; Are there any other ways you can make your organization clearer to the reader?&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Best wishes, Clive&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;B&gt;Commentary on &lt;I&gt;"To Be or not to Be"&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In this soliloquy Hamlet sparks an internal philosophical debate on the advantages and disadvantages of existence, and whether it is one's right to end &lt;STRONG&gt;one's&lt;/STRONG&gt; own life. He first asks &lt;STRONG&gt;himself &lt;/STRONG&gt;thoughtfully&amp;nbsp;whether it is nobler to bear the miseries of life or to take arms against them; but since both passive and active resistance &lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;are&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;/FONT&gt;doomed to failure, he regards death as a mean to end oneâs sorrows once and for all. He sees death &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;from&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; a Medieval perspective, as physical liberation from the prison of the body (the &lt;I&gt;âmortal coilâ&lt;/I&gt;); but he also symbolizes the doubt of the Renaissance man, concerning the after life. Indeed he faces an obstacle, that is to say the fear of &lt;I&gt;âwhat dreams may comeâ&lt;/I&gt; in that sleep of death&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; If death were like a dreamless sleep, it would be easy to put &lt;STRONG&gt;an &lt;/STRONG&gt;end to the misfortunes of life with a single stroke, but since we donât know what to expect in the afterlife, we havenât courage enough commit suicide. He says that the troubles of life are such that no one would willingly bear them, but our cowardice makes us &lt;I&gt;âbear those ills we have / than fly to others that we know not ofâ&lt;/I&gt;. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In his soliloquy, Hamlet uses various gramatical structures to express his uncertainty, such as the infinitive forms&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;. &lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;His speech takes shape slowly because of its thoughtful nature. The climax is reached when Hamlet lists the injustices and miseries of life, concluding that it would only take a small&lt;STRONG&gt; &lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;does his word 'mere' mean 'small' or does it mean 'unimportant'?&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;/FONT&gt;knife to bring relief&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt; He also uses metaphors, such as that of the mortal coil, that of the unknown country from where no traveller comes back&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;,&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; and that of the opposition between the pale cast of thought and the native hue of resolution. This one in particular helps us understand that for Hamlet courage is the ability to cross the border between life and death; but &lt;STRONG&gt;most&amp;nbsp;people are&amp;nbsp;cowards&lt;/STRONG&gt; and this cowardice, through &lt;I&gt;âthe pale cast of thoughtâ&lt;/I&gt;, makes us stay alive. The soliloquy elevates Hamletâs individual case to an universal level; this is achieved through the use of &lt;STRONG&gt;the &lt;/STRONG&gt;plural pronouns 'we' and 'us', the indefinite 'who', &lt;STRONG&gt;and &lt;/STRONG&gt;the impersonal infinitive. Its problematic nature is shown by the insistent use of interrogatives, while the internal struggle within Hamletâs mind is pointed out by the use of images from the battle-field (&lt;I&gt;âslings and arrowsâ&lt;/I&gt;, which has become an idiomatic expression, and &lt;I&gt;âto take arms against a sea of troublesâ&lt;/I&gt;). In the middle of the soliloquy we can find an enumeration of lifeâs misfortunes; while reflecting upon the nature of death Hamlet uses a repetition (&lt;I&gt;âto die, &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;t&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;o sleepâ&lt;/I&gt;). Finally, we can find a term from the financial semantic field, &lt;I&gt;âquietusâ&lt;/I&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: : vs. ?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Vs/zvqjg/post.htm#442040</link><pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:05:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:442040</guid><dc:creator>Hoa Thai</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Clive wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Very generally speaking, the expression 'How about these?'&amp;nbsp;in writing often&amp;nbsp;seems infelicitous and imprecise.&lt;img src="/emoticons/emotion-1.gif" alt="Smile [:)]" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Clive&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hello Clive,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thank to you, I've just learned a new word, &lt;i&gt;infelicitous! &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you don't mind, may I pose a few more questions to you?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Question #1: &lt;/b&gt;The phrase 'very generally speaking' of yours tells me that the expression 'How about these?' has very little use in writing. So could you kindly show me a few cases when its use is not infelicitous and not imprecise? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For me, the few instances I use that expression are:&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; a) when I want to follow another question with a final question as an after thought; for instance:&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;&lt;u&gt;Do you think this word is acceptable ....?&amp;nbsp; How about these (list of words) &lt;/u&gt;? &lt;/i&gt;Of course, this pattern caused me to ask the original question (i.e., the placing of the question mark when a bulleted list is involved); &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; b) when I want to embed a suggestion in a question mode. I like to use a question tone more than a direct suggestion tone, not because I lack confidence, but because I feel that suggestion tone is rather pompous when the suggested item(s) is/are not factual&amp;nbsp; and more on the imaginary / abstract side (beauty is in the eye of the beholder). &lt;b&gt;From what you shared with me, in the future I will try to rephrase it in different way such as &lt;i&gt;"Would you like to consider one of these alternatives:"&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/i&gt;Question #2: &lt;/b&gt;What do you think of the italicized and underlined construction in part a) ? Is there a better alternative? (Perhaps, I should not write anything as an after thought, but I guess for forum exchange it is tolerable).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;With special thanks,&lt;br&gt;Hoa Thai&lt;br&gt;P.S. By the way, could you kindly suggest anything I could / should change in this writing to make it better (grammar, punctuation, word choice, semantics, etc...)&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description></item><item><title>What are areas of weakness?? grammar, spelling , punctuation etc.</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/AreasWeaknessGrammarSpelling-Punctuation/zvnqw/post.htm</link><pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:02:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:441294</guid><dc:creator>Aliwaqasmalik</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;Dear teachers kindly check this short aticle and highlight my weak areas and give me score out of 10. Grammar, Punctuations, expression etc. &lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;President of Pakistan as a chief of Pakistan Army staff declared the state of emergency in Pakistan today. In this recent speech to the nation he announced the reasons behind this act. These are:non coordination among the pillars of state, rising religious extremism.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Presidentâs act of declaring emergency can be seen as an act of realism. Realism states that human by nature can not be true,nice and honest all the times. He always tries to protect some interests. As a president of a country, Musharraf has the right to do anything illegal and evil in the benefit of Pakistanâs national interest. According to him the prime interest of Pakistan in the restoration of democracy and for this âstate of emergencyâ is inevitable. In his message to the critics he said,â Do not expect the level of democracy you learnt over a period of centuries. We are trying to learn it and I know we are doing well. Do not expect the level of human rights you learnt over a period of centuries. We are trying to learn it and I know we are doing well.â He also quoted the statement of Abraham Lincoln , âSometimes we amputate limbs to preserve life; similarly, presidents must occasionally violate the Constitution to save it.â He says that he is violating and suspending the constitution to save it.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Non coordination among the pillars of state â judiciary, legislatives and executivesâ is the main cause of this recent emergency. The situation started after&amp;nbsp; a presidential reference against the chief justice of Pakistan, Chudhry Iftrkhar. The reference brought a wave of law violation ad mass level and involvement of political elements in the protest against the reference. Supreme judicial council gave decision in favour of Justice and Govt. accepted the decision. Afterwords there erupted a legal war among the pillars of state where judiciary was the main dominating factor. This resulted in a chaos and unstable Government.Pakistanâs presidential elections 2007 were plunged into this war too.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There is a rising wave of religious extremist in Pakistan.July 2007 Lal Masjid militants in Islamabad,&amp;nbsp; march 2004 to present Talibans in Wazeristan and FATA and oct. 2007 Swaat operation are recent examples of this. Moreover, Judiciary is continuously victimizing the Govt. in Lal Masjid crisis. 100 arrested people were freed by supreme court of Pakistan. President says that those people might be a part of recent bomb blasts in Pakistan.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;What do to next? In Musharrafâs view, â Democratic transitionâ will continue as normal. He will be launching the 3rd phase of this transition â a fully democratic elected Government under a civil president , Musharraf&amp;nbsp; if elected â. He defines democratic transition as a continuous process in which first he maintained the military rule&amp;nbsp;upto 2002 then from 2002 to 2007 a fully functional democratic Govt. under a military&amp;nbsp;president and now the third phase.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Act of announcing emergency was right or wrong itâs your own choice. But these were the views of Mr. President.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Most fair or fairest?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MostFairOrFairest/vjwvw/post.htm#380689</link><pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 13:49:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:380689</guid><dc:creator>Cool Breeze</dc:creator><description>I'm not particularly meticulous about punctuation. If I understood you correctly, you are asking whether there should be a period after &lt;i&gt;fair&lt;/i&gt; in my sentence? I didn't use one, someone else might. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The absolute superlative is one of the least fixed structures in English; there are cases in which it is identical with the relative superlative. It is quite amazing that my native language has always helped me with this point of grammar&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; amazing because Finnish isn't even an Indo-European language! Russian and English are related, Finnish and English are not! Nevertheless, in real-life situations people seem to behave and speak more or less the same everywhere. As absolute superlatives are &lt;b&gt;always&lt;/b&gt; remarkably different from relative superlatives in Finnish, I never have trouble as to when an absolute superlative should be used in English. I am sometimes surprised at the form it takes, though.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Examples of absolute superlatives in English:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;The book is most interesting.&lt;/i&gt; (= very interesting)&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;This is a most interesting book. &lt;/i&gt;(= very interesting)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Easy so far. You just use &lt;i&gt;most&lt;/i&gt; instead of &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;I'll do it with the greatest pleasure.&lt;/i&gt; (Quite peculiar. The same as the relative superlative would be!)&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;You have been most kind.&lt;/i&gt; (= very kind) Really odd! &lt;i&gt;Kind&lt;/i&gt; is a short adjective and the superlative is normally &lt;i&gt;the kindest&lt;/i&gt;. Why don't they say analogously with &lt;u&gt;&lt;i&gt;most kind&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/u&gt;: &lt;i&gt;I'll do it with &lt;u&gt;most great&lt;/u&gt; pleasure?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/i&gt;As to your sentences:&lt;br&gt;1. Clearly &lt;i&gt;&lt;u&gt;the&lt;/u&gt; most importance&lt;/i&gt; because &lt;i&gt;most &lt;/i&gt;+ a noun would mean more than 50 percent: &lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;Most cats like milk.&lt;br&gt;He took most of my money.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2. &lt;i&gt;He is (at his) most dependable when he is given some freedom to do what he want&lt;b&gt;s&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not: &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;the&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt; most dependable&lt;/i&gt; because we are &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b&gt;comparing him with other people. &lt;/b&gt;We are comparing him with himself. In the same way:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;The lake is (at its) deepest here.&lt;/i&gt; (= The deepest point of the lake is here.)&lt;br&gt;But: &lt;i&gt;This is the deepest lake.&lt;/i&gt; (= deeper than any other lake)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Again, Finnish helps me&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; or I should say help&lt;b&gt;ed&lt;/b&gt; me as a schoolboy&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; because a Finn will never confuse the two expressions in his language. They are so different: &lt;i&gt;(at its)&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i&gt;deepest = syvimmillÃ¤Ã¤n&lt;/i&gt;; &lt;i&gt;the deepest = syvin&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers&lt;br&gt;CB&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: An incorrect sentence formation or incorrect punctuation?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IncorrectSentenceFormationIncorrect-Punctuation/vhdxr/post.htm#369580</link><pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 00:51:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:369580</guid><dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;in these two expressions, there is no verb in either phrase to express a predicate.&amp;nbsp; so, does the error lie in &lt;STRONG&gt;an incorrect formation of a sentence&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt; YES &lt;/FONT&gt;or an incorrect use of a punctuation? thank you.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;the lad from belfast; the one and only george best.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;the legend of christmas; the one and only santa clause.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;These are not sentences. They are just phrases.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;It's like saying 'The table' or 'The table; the chair'.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;Best wishes, Clive&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>