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Re: passive voice

Goodman — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:53:09 GMT

CB,
Thank you for your input. At least I know I am not the only one with the PASSIVE approach toward this typeof sentences.

<<<Football is a popular sport [which/that is] played in almost all Asian and European countries. >>>-
The sentence consists of a main clause and a relative clause, which has been reduced by omitting the relative pronoun and the passive auxiliary (is). I call such structures clause equivalents, but terminology is unimportant here. The relative clause - or its equivalent - is in the passive voice.

Huevos

You were correct with your comment in the sense that my sentence was an active one because of the beginning structure of the sentence was âthis is a car of the futureâ¦â

, and what came after was âdesigned and built for safety and comfortâ which is a adverbial clause. That- I completely agree, viewing from your angle.

As I stated: â from my grammatical angleâ¦â that sentence is passive in NATUREâ. My disagreement was not in the literal grammatical interpretation of the anatomy of the sentence, but the tone or voice of it. If you donât mind, I like to know your take on this sentence âI am completely exhausted just watching these toddlers ! â. Is this passive in your opinion? Or active? The reason I like to know is because some folks look at [exhausted] as an adjective, although it is a past participle. However, some may argue this is a passive voice sentence because my exhaustion was caused by the act of watching the toddlers. I can see it both ways as correct.

Re: passive voice

Cool Breeze — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:51:51 GMT

Huevos
Goodman
football is a popular sport played almost in all Asain and European countries. There is no direct agent here but it's still a passive structure.
That sentence is not in the passive voice.

Football is a popular sport [which/that is] played in almost all Asian and European countries.

The sentence consists of a main clause and a relative clause, which has been reduced by omitting the relative pronoun and the passive auxiliary (is). I call such structures clause equivalents, but terminology is unimportant here. The relative clause - or its equivalent - is in the passive voice.

A sentence ends with a full stop / period, an exclamation mark or a question mark. A clause need not have any punctuation after it, which is the case after the main clause in this sentence.

Re: Who

MrPedantic — Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:48:38 GMT

I too find 'who are singing?' (and 'who are going?') strange.

There doesn't seem to be a problem with the relative pronoun, which supports the point about known referents:

1. 'The people who were singing in the room...'

But even where we know at least 22 people are involved, 'who is' seems dominant:

2. 'I'm going to the football tonight.' 'Who's playing?'

I seem to recall that OE 'hwa' ('who') was singular only, and that the use of 'who' as a relative pronoun is a later, non-OE development. Is there a connection?

(But as has been said, 'who are those people?' sounds fine. Curious.)

MrP

Re: Such

wumanfu — Mon, 06 Oct 2003 20:09:08 GMT

Hi, sorry for not trying to answer. Iâve just dumped reference material from the net. Hope it helps.

"such" Pocket Fowler's Modern English Usage. Ed. Robert Allen. Oxford University

such. 1.

SUCH AS AN EMPHASIZER.

How can the House express its indignant rejection of football hooliganism while setting such a persuasive example of undignified and daily indiscipline?âGuardian
Weekly, 1986. The construction with such a followed by an adjective is established and idiomatic in current English, despite occasional objections that
so and not such should do the work of emphasizing here (â¦ while setting so persuasive an example). (Compare the use of such qualifying a noun, to which
nobody objects:

For God's sake, Beryl, don't be such a nitwitâJ. Drummond, 1975.) In some cases such appears to qualify the combination of adjective and noun:

It is indeed hard to see how such a gigantic work â¦ can be considered âminimalâ in any wayâRadio Times, 1985.

2.

SUCH AS WITH FOLLOWING PRONOUN.
When an inflecting pronoun follows, it is more natural to regard such as as a preposition and to follow it with me, her, him, etc., rather than I, she,
he, etc. (regarding such as as a conjunction with the continuation understood as such as I am, etc.)

They were not bad, for such as herâRose Macaulay, 1920.

3.

SUCH AS OR LIKE.
Like is common when a single instance follows (a poet like Tennyson / take a girl like you), but such as is preferable (and more idiomatic) when a list
follows (Members of the cat family, such as the lion, the tiger, and the leopard). See
LIKE (2).

4.

SUCH â¦ AS â¦ OR SUCH â¦ THAT â¦
We are such stuff as dreams are made on. The relative pronoun that follows such in sentences of this type is as and not who, which, or that. But such followed
by that is legitimate in constructions of the following types, in which that is a conjunction:

Midge was such a dingbat â¦ that she went to Hawaii for a vacation during World War IIâJ. Irving, 1978 / The ladies who feature with her on her home-video
were such that âa man would be lucky to get out of them aliveâ (hysterical laughter)âListener, 1983.

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