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&lt;b&gt;:&lt;/b&gt; a food-absorbing outgrowth of a hypha, stem, or other plant organ: as &lt;b&gt;a&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b&gt;:&lt;/b&gt; a projection from various fungous hyphae &lt;b&gt;b&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b&gt;:&lt;/b&gt; a cell of the embryo sac or embryo in some seed plants &lt;b&gt;c&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b&gt;:&lt;/b&gt; an outgrowth of the stem or root in a parasitic seed plant (as dodder)


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&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Which one is correct? (conditional clause)</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/CorrectConditionalClause/3/zdrjk/Post.htm#432507</link><pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:56:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:432507</guid><dc:creator>Goodman</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Yoong Liat wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;Hi Goodman 
&lt;P class=sub&gt;I searched for 'run into troubles' but found 'run into trouble' instead. The following is just one of the extracts.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P class=sub&gt;Oxford University Google Search &lt;IMG height=14 alt="" src="http://www.ox.ac.uk/i/seek.gif" width=15&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;TD&gt;&lt;FONT size=-1&gt;Searched pages from &lt;B&gt;ox.ac.uk&lt;/B&gt; for &lt;B&gt;run into troubles&lt;/B&gt;. (&lt;B&gt;0.06&lt;/B&gt; seconds)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=-2&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT size=-1&gt;File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - &lt;a href="http://72.14.235.104/u/Oxford?q=cache&lt;img" target="_blank" title="http://72.14.235.104/u/Oxford?q=cache&lt;img"&gt;zISvebKjXEJ:www.chem.ox.ac.uk/spectroscopy/nmr/PDFs/ac_user.PDF+run+into+troubles&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ct=clnk&amp;amp;cd=2&amp;amp;ie=UTF-8"&gt;View as HTML&lt;/a&gt;&lt;BR&gt;(If you &lt;B&gt;run into trouble&lt;/B&gt; with this the simplest option is to abort the integral routine and try again!). You. may now have to adjust the slope of the &lt;B&gt;...&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR&gt;www.chem.ox.ac.uk/spectroscopy/nmr/PDFs/ac_user.PDF - &lt;a href="http://www.googlesyndicatedsearch.com/u/Oxford?hl=en&amp;amp;domains=natcorp.ox.ac.uk&amp;amp;sitesearch=ox.ac.uk&amp;amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;amp;q=related:www.chem.ox.ac.uk/spectroscopy/nmr/PDFs/ac_user.PDF" target="_blank" title="http://www.googlesyndicatedsearch.com/u/Oxford?hl=en&amp;amp;domains=natcorp.ox.ac.uk&amp;amp;sitesearch=ox.ac.uk&amp;amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;amp;q=related:www.chem.ox.ac.uk/spectroscopy/nmr/PDFs/ac_user.PDF"&gt;Similar pages&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Liat,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Fine, if you believe and insist that what you learned is true, I don't want you to change your opinion on my behalf. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I know you searched&amp;nbsp;for "if you run into trouble...".Have you tried others? (when you..../ should you.../ in case you ...?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My point is, the book's answers don't always explain everything. In this case, "troubles" as in the plural context discussed, is just as valid as it's singular cousin. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;One can have trouble with marriage, job and finance at the same time, so what is wrong with&amp;nbsp; plurals, as in "having troubles"!&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Articles (a, an)</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ArticlesAAn/3/zcxhw/Post.htm#431604</link><pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:34:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:431604</guid><dc:creator>Hoa Thai</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Yoong Liat,&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Following your advice that I should refer to dictionaries or English usage
books to learn the correct thing, I found this:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
From http://www.answers.com/topic/advice?cat=biz-fin&amp;amp;method=26&amp;amp;initiator=FFANS&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
THE AMERICAN HERRITAGE&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;adÂ·vice&lt;/b&gt; (Äd-vÄ«s&lt;b&gt;'&lt;/b&gt;)

 
 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
 
 

 
&lt;img src="file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/LAMHON%7E1.CL3/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image001.gif" alt="pronunciation" alt="Tongue Tied [:S]" /&gt;hapes="_x0000_i1025" align="middle" border="0" height="18" width="20"&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt;n.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Opinion about what could or
     should be done about a situation or problem; counsel.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Information communicated;
     news. &lt;u&gt;Often used in the plural: &lt;i&gt;advices from an ambassador.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;

&lt;p&gt;HOUGHTON MUFFLIN COMPANY (banking
dictionary)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;advice&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;noun&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;An opinion as to a decision or
     course of action: &lt;a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/counsel" target="_blank" title="http://www.answers.com/topic/counsel"&gt;counsel&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/recommendation" target="_blank" title="http://www.answers.com/topic/recommendation"&gt;recommendation&lt;/a&gt;.
     &lt;i&gt;See&lt;/i&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/opinion-similar-words" target="_blank" title="http://www.answers.com/topic/opinion-similar-words"&gt;opinion&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;u&gt;New information,
     especially about recent events and happenings. &lt;a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/intelligence" target="_blank" title="http://www.answers.com/topic/intelligence"&gt;intelligence&lt;/a&gt;,
     &lt;a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/news" target="_blank" title="http://www.answers.com/topic/news"&gt;news&lt;/a&gt;, tiding
     (often used in plural)&lt;/u&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/word" target="_blank" title="http://www.answers.com/topic/word"&gt;word&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;i&gt;Informal&lt;/i&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/scoop" target="_blank" title="http://www.answers.com/topic/scoop"&gt;scoop&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;i&gt;See&lt;/i&gt;
     &lt;a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/knowledge-ignorance" target="_blank" title="http://www.answers.com/topic/knowledge-ignorance"&gt;knowledge/ignorance&lt;/a&gt;,
     &lt;a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/words-similar-words" target="_blank" title="http://www.answers.com/topic/words-similar-words"&gt;words&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Regarding others' replies saying mistakes seem to come from
the majority of non-native English speakers, please visit the following web
sites:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;From
the majority of American courts - for example
http://www.almb.uscourts.gov/Forms/Forms/statement_payment_advices.pdf &lt;br&gt;
"Statement Under Penalty of Perjury Concerning Payment &lt;b&gt;Advices &lt;/b&gt;-
Due Pursuant to 11 U.S.C. Â§ 521(A)(1)(B)(iv)"&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;From
a webpage of Cambridge University International Education and Training
Society,&amp;nbsp; http://www.societies.cam.ac.uk/iets/&lt;br&gt;
" ... Summarise general situations and common difficulties for students in
graduate, undergraduate, A-Levels and GCSE courses, and provide &lt;b&gt;advices&lt;/b&gt;
and assistances to individual cases."&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;From the transcript of Senator Robert Hill in Australlia,
http://www.minister.defense.gov.au/2004/AVF843F.doc&lt;br&gt;
"Well I understand there
were some questions arising out of Mr Downerâs comments regarding Turkey
and the travel &lt;b&gt;advices&lt;/b&gt;."&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
According to many gurus at this forum, &lt;b&gt;advices &lt;/b&gt;should not be used. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Now, I hope you all understand why ESL learners can easily become confused.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Let's table this and go on to something else, shall we? (I will post another
question, using a new thread later).&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Thank you all,&lt;br&gt;
Hoa Thai&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Articles (a, an)</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ArticlesAAn/2/zcnkh/Post.htm#431365</link><pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:18:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:431365</guid><dc:creator>Yoong Liat</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Hoa Thai wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;Thank you all for your answers. With your advice and after hours of studying various sentences from Google search, I come to the following conclusions:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; - &lt;b&gt;Water &lt;/b&gt;takes a plural form, &lt;b&gt;waters&lt;/b&gt;, to signify the water drawn from different sources. The same idea is apllied for &lt;b&gt;satisfaction&lt;/b&gt; as pointed by Yoong Liat. So &lt;b&gt;advice &lt;/b&gt;can actually take a plural form as many people believe it should be treated to separate thoughts from different sources (Google search shows almost 6,000,000 entries that use &lt;b&gt;advices&lt;/b&gt;).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yoong Liat - Do you think I am still confused? &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;Yes.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Always refer to a dictionary or an English usage book if you want to get the correct answer. Don't depend on Google.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;advice&lt;/b&gt; is never used in the plural: &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;a piece&lt;/b&gt; of advice,&lt;b&gt; some&lt;/b&gt; advice.&lt;/i&gt; (Times-Chambers Junior Dictionary)&lt;br&gt;&lt;table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan="2"&gt;&lt;table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan="2"&gt;&lt;h1&gt;advice&lt;/h1&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;adÂ·vice (&lt;i&gt;plural&lt;/i&gt; adÂ·vices)&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="ResultBody"&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;noun&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="ResultBodyBlack"&gt;Definition:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;1.&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;recommendation about action:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;somebody's opinion about what another person should do&lt;br&gt;&lt;img alt="" src="http://encarta.msn.com/xImages/dictionary/bullet.gif" border="0" height="8" width="9"&gt;&lt;img alt="" src="http://encarta.msn.com/xImages/trans.gif" border="0" width="9"&gt;May I give you &lt;b&gt;some&lt;/b&gt; advice?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;2.&amp;nbsp;&lt;b&gt;official information:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/b&gt;formal or official information about something, usually received from a distance
(
&lt;i&gt;often used in the plural&lt;/i&gt;
)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br&gt;(EncartaÂ® World English Dictionary, North American Edition)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: wish clauses</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/WishClauses/3/zcvbd/Post.htm#428607</link><pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:52:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:428607</guid><dc:creator>Goodman</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Yoong Liat wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;Hi Goodman&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&lt;B&gt;You wrote: &lt;I&gt;I have been labeled and called by many descriptions, hinted being âIgnorantâ is the first ... &lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/B&gt;I'm not hinting that you're ignorant. I say that if &lt;B&gt;a learner &lt;/B&gt;tells me "informal" means "wrong", I'll understand that he says so because he is &lt;B&gt;ignorant.&lt;/B&gt;&amp;nbsp; But you are not a learner.&amp;nbsp; You're one of the members who &lt;B&gt;have a good command of English.&lt;/B&gt; So that's why I say it's not correct for you&amp;nbsp; to say that a usage, which is classified as "informal", is wrong. &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I've reproduced below what Michael Swan has to say about "I wish I was ... " and "I wish it wasn't ..." and let the members decide whether you're right to say "I wish it was not raining" or "I wish it wasn't raining" is a wrong usage.&lt;FONT size=2&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;B&gt;We can use 'wish' to express regrets - to say that we would like things to be different. We use a past tense with a present meaning in this case.&lt;BR&gt;I wish I &lt;/B&gt;&lt;B&gt;was better-looking.&lt;BR&gt;I wish it &lt;/B&gt;&lt;B&gt;wasn't raining.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;B&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In a formal style, we can use 'were' instead of 'was' after 'I wish'.&lt;BR&gt;I wish I &lt;/B&gt;&lt;B&gt;were better-looking.&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;(&lt;B&gt;&lt;I&gt;Basic English Usage&lt;/I&gt; by Michael Swan)&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/B&gt;Best wishes.&lt;B&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt; &lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Liat,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;With our differences in point of view, I appreciate your reply.&amp;nbsp; For all intents and an purposes, I am still a learner on a different level but I perhaps have the advantage being in a completely English environment and therefore, I may appear to have better command. That said, I do feel there is a certain slight inconsistency among all the different English websites, particularly on the subjunctive. There should not be any argument that âIf I wereâ or âI wish I wereâ is a subjunctive mood. The difference&amp;nbsp;of&amp;nbsp;the agruement really lies in the defining of the rules and the mood expressed in the senstence.&amp;nbsp; The early website quoted âI wish I wasâ as informal. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In reality, after reading this article, that is indeed incorrect.&amp;nbsp;The bottom line, " I wish&amp;nbsp;I was" is against the subjunctive ruels.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Take a look at the explanation on this website then you may come to agree with what I said in my earlier threads. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;

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&lt;P&gt;Confusingly enough, in the "self test", some of of the answers are considered "acceptable" or "informal" by some. I should hope that this piece will settle all questions about indicative and subjunctive moods.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;The Subjunctive Mood 
&lt;P&gt;Examine the verbs in each of the following sentences: 
&lt;P&gt;1. If Harrison were chosen to be the next chief executive officer of the corporation, several controversial hiring practices would change. 
&lt;P&gt;2. If I were you, I would increase my weekly contribution to the company-sponsored retirement fund. 
&lt;P&gt;3. I wish that his report were longer. 
&lt;P&gt;4. We recommend that the trip be postponed because of violence in the region. 
&lt;P&gt;5. The finance department requests that he submit updated budget projections each month. 
&lt;P&gt;All the above sentences are correct. 
&lt;P&gt;Two terms apply to the mood of English verbs: indicative and subjunctive. An indicative verb makes a statement that is factual, whereas a verb in the subjunctive mood is used to indicate a situation or condition that is hypothetical, doubtful, or conditional. 
&lt;P&gt;In the indicative mood, we would never write "Harrison were," "I were," "report were," "trip be," or "he submit," but these verbs are correct in the examples above because each of the sentences is written in the subjunctive mood; that is, in every case, the sentence is describing a situation that is hypothetical or conditional: 
&lt;P&gt;1. Harrison is not now the C.E.O., but hypothetically he could be chosen for that position. The conditional nature of the position is suggested by the word &lt;I&gt;if&lt;/I&gt;. 
&lt;P&gt;2. Again, as the word &lt;I&gt;if&lt;/I&gt; makes clear, I am not, in fact, you. So once again the situation is hypothetical and conditional: I would save more only under the condition that I became you. 
&lt;P&gt;3. His report is not, in fact, longer, so the sentence speaks of a hypothetical situation. 
&lt;P&gt;4. The trip is not currently postponed, so the subjunctive mood is appropriate to suggest a possibility, not an actuality. 
&lt;P&gt;5. He is not currently submitting reports monthly, so we use the subjunctive mood to discuss the possibility--not the actuality--of his doing so. 
&lt;P&gt;For all verbs except &lt;I&gt;to be&lt;/I&gt;, the present subjunctive mood is most often made by omitting the characteristic &lt;I&gt;s&lt;/I&gt; ending on verbs with third-person singular subjects. Thus, whereas in the indicative mood we would write "man leaves," in the subjunctive mood we would omit the &lt;I&gt;s&lt;/I&gt; on the verb &lt;I&gt;leave&lt;/I&gt;: "The judge insisted that the man not leave town." For the verb &lt;I&gt;to be&lt;/I&gt;, we simply use &lt;I&gt;be&lt;/I&gt; for all present tense subjunctive mood verbs and &lt;I&gt;were&lt;/I&gt; for all past tense forms, regardless of whether the subject is singular or plural. 
&lt;P&gt;&lt;I&gt;The Columbia Guide to Standard American English&lt;/I&gt; (New York: MJF Books, 1993) points out that while many subjunctive-mood phrases are commonly used in ordinary speech--"if I were you," "if need be," "far be it from me," and so on--strict use of the subjunctive mood is rare, even in the most formal speaking and writing situations (243). Very few people would write, for example, "If he arrive on time, we will have dinner before the show." However, if a form of the verb &lt;I&gt;to be&lt;/I&gt; were used in that sentence, all polished writers would agree that the subjunctive is necessary: "If he were [not was] to arrive on time, we could have dinner before the show." 
&lt;P&gt;&lt;I&gt;The Harbrace College Handbook&lt;/I&gt; (13th edition) lists other common, fixed expressions that are stated in the subjunctive mood: "so be it," "be that as it may," "as it were," and "God bless you" (99-100). 
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;TEST YOURSELF &lt;BR&gt;Which of the following sentences need verbs in the subjunctive mood? &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;1. If I was Sam, I would hire an assistant now before the hiring freeze takes effect. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;2. The committee suggested that Dr. Jones is chosen as the next chief of staff. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;3. As August approaches, every school child wishes that his or her vacation was longer. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;4. It is critical that every potential donor gives blood during this shortage. &lt;/FONT&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;1. If I WERE Sam, I would hire an assistant now before the hiring freeze takes effect. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;2. The committee suggested that Dr. Jones BE chosen as the next chief of staff. &lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;3. As August approaches, every school child wishes that his or her vacation &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;WERE longer. This is&amp;nbsp;almost the exact sentence&amp;nbsp;identified as correct in your&amp;nbsp;past post. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;4. It is critical that every potential donor GIVE blood during this shortage&lt;/FONT&gt;. 
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align="center"&gt;&lt;table align="center" bgcolor="white" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;b&gt;2 a&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b&gt;:&lt;/b&gt; any procedure, action, or &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;occasion not clearly distinguished or only vaguely specified&lt;/font&gt;  &amp;lt;an &lt;i&gt;affair&lt;/i&gt; of honor&amp;gt;  &amp;lt;one of the most brilliant social &lt;i&gt;affair&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;s &lt;/i&gt;of the season&amp;gt;  &amp;lt;public life had become so discreditable an &lt;i&gt;affair&lt;/i&gt; -- F.M.Ford&amp;gt;  &amp;lt;the whole &lt;i&gt;affair&lt;/i&gt;
from start to finish did not occupy more than thirty seconds --
S.H.Holbrook&amp;gt; &amp;lt;if he knew anything about rain, this was going to
be an all-day &lt;i&gt;affair&lt;/i&gt; -- Hamilton Basso&amp;gt; -- sometimes used in plural  &amp;lt;an attempt to end this sad state of &lt;i&gt;affair&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;s&lt;/i&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;em&gt;Third New International Dictionary, Unabridged&lt;/em&gt;. Merriam-Webster, 2002. http://unabridged.merriam-webster.com (20 Sep. 2007).&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;DIV class=KonaBody&gt;...as the&amp;nbsp;band prepare to play its/their last final preformance of the year. &lt;/DIV&gt;
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&lt;DIV class=KonaBody&gt;In my opinion i would use Its. If you analyze the grammatical structure of the sentence, "the band" would be replaced by "it". i would also think then that prepare should take a final s. So lets say that instead of the band we have this sentence:&amp;nbsp;(of course in a context in which we know that we are talking about the band)&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV class=KonaBody&gt;&amp;nbsp;As it prepares to play ITS last final performance of the year. (would you use their ??? in that position...No!! because "their" would be used&amp;nbsp;for the plural (bandS)...and the noun is not about the people who plays on the band...and its not about several bands neither....so i guess that now after reviewing all this...i would definitely use ITS...but i would also&amp;nbsp;add an&amp;nbsp; s in the word "prepare". I hope my explanation was clear...if not let me know and i will try to write it in a different way.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: thesis</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Thesis/vxngx/post.htm#406739</link><pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 10:15:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:406739</guid><dc:creator>Dominik</dc:creator><description>&lt;div class="infoHwd"&gt;thesis&lt;img src="http://pewebdic2.cw.idm.fr/display/pron.pl?_20__22_C3_98i_s_C3_82s_" class="proncar" title="See pronunciation table in &amp;quot;How to use dictionary&amp;quot; pages"&gt; plural theses&lt;img id="proncar" src="http://pewebdic2.cw.idm.fr/display/pron.pl?_20__2Dsi_z_" class="proncar" title="See pronunciation table in &amp;quot;How to use dictionary&amp;quot; pages"&gt; [countable]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="p008-000595261" class="Sense"&gt;a long piece of writing about a particular subject that you do as part of an advanced university degree such as an MA or a PhD: &lt;div id="p008-001629204" class="EXAMPLE"&gt;&lt;img class="pronsentence" title="Look up a word starting with D or S for samples of headword or sentence pronunciations on the LDOCE CD-ROM" src="http://pewebdic2.cw.idm.fr/images/entry/pronsentencea.gif"&gt;Cynthia's still working on her thesis.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div id="p008-001629205" class="ColloExa"&gt;&lt;i&gt; &lt;a class="phrsensehwd" id="PH.48732"&gt;graduate/master's/doctoral thesis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;div id="p008-001629207" class="EXAMPLE"&gt;&lt;img class="pronsentence" title="Look up a word starting with D or S for samples of headword or sentence pronunciations on the LDOCE CD-ROM" src="http://pewebdic2.cw.idm.fr/images/entry/pronsentencea.gif"&gt;He wrote his doctoral thesis on contemporary French literature.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>window or windows</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/WindowOrWindows/vzngr/post.htm</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 12:44:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:362508</guid><dc:creator>Paarkere</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;Hello, I've had to edit your post to reply, as something in the format of your post has prevented normal replies.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Window is correct. Even though there are lots of individual windows in the world that these things might be used on, we still use the singular form when we are talking about them in this context. It's no different to, say, car seats, car engines, car doors, car technologies. It doesn't matter that there are lots of cars.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;DIV&gt;I have a really urgent issue: &lt;/DIV&gt;
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&lt;DIV&gt;please, tell me - which is the correct form: window technologies or windows technologies (taking into consideration the fact, that we speak about wooden windows, not Microsoft Windows).&lt;/DIV&gt;
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&lt;DIV&gt;if I look up, e.g., company's web page: Window Technologies, LLC, I see that tehy use window technologies, window awnings, window groups, window products - as if plural, but singular? &lt;/DIV&gt;
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&lt;DIV&gt;Thank you in advance. &lt;/DIV&gt;
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&lt;DIV&gt;Latvia&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>