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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Indirect objects tag:Prepositions' matching tags 'Indirect objects' and 'Prepositions'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aIndirect+objects+tag%3aPrepositions&amp;tag=Indirect+objects,Prepositions&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Indirect objects tag:Prepositions' matching tags 'Indirect objects' and 'Prepositions'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3191.21962)</generator><item><title>Re: the reason</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheReason/gmrbz/post.htm#560104</link><pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:58:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:560104</guid><dc:creator>Tanit</dc:creator><description>On reflection, I think I must amend one thing I wrote earlier. (General statements are always dangerous when speaking about English...sorry &lt;img src="http://www.englishforums.com/emoticons/emotion-6.gif" alt="Sad" title="Sad" /&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Tanit&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;...while some need to be followed by an &lt;em&gt;indirect object (i.e. one preceded by a preposition)&lt;/em&gt; ... &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sometimes indirect objects are not preceded by a preposition. This happens, for instance, with verbs like &lt;em&gt;send/give/write&lt;/em&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; John gave me the book.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; John sent me a parcel.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; John wrote her a letter.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&amp;#39;s easy, though, to distinguish the objects if we rewrite these sentences as:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; John gave the book &lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;to&lt;/span&gt; me.&lt;br /&gt; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; John sent a parcel &lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;to&lt;/span&gt; me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; John wrote a letter&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt; to&lt;/span&gt; her.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: the reason</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheReason/glqjp/post.htm#559961</link><pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:31:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:559961</guid><dc:creator>Tanit</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Buddhist-Accountant&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Could you mention other intransitive verb ?? &lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;I can mention a couple of them.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To &lt;em&gt;be&lt;/em&gt;: I was here at five. - I am tired. - To be or not to be?&lt;br /&gt;To &lt;em&gt;exist&lt;/em&gt;: Do you believe UFOs exist?&lt;br /&gt;To &lt;em&gt;appear:&lt;/em&gt; He appeared suddenly.&lt;br /&gt;To &lt;em&gt;die&lt;/em&gt;: My grannie died at the age of 92. - John has died.&lt;br /&gt;To &lt;em&gt;rain&lt;/em&gt;: It&amp;#39;s raining heavily. - It&amp;#39;s going to rain.&lt;br /&gt;To &lt;em&gt;lie&lt;/em&gt;: She&amp;#39;s always lying.&lt;br /&gt;To &lt;em&gt;work&lt;/em&gt;: Tom works in a farm.&lt;br /&gt;To&lt;em&gt; talk&lt;/em&gt;: They have been talking for two hours.&lt;br /&gt;To &lt;em&gt;go&lt;/em&gt;: I usually go to the beach on Sundays.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As you can see, some are &amp;quot;complete&amp;quot; (i.e. they don&amp;#39;t require any object), while some need to be followed by an indirect object (i.e. one preceded by a preposition) or by an adjective.&lt;br /&gt;Also, some verbs can be&amp;nbsp;either transitive or intransitive, depending on the meaning and on the&amp;nbsp;context.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;To run&lt;/em&gt;: Ann is running in the park (intransitive) - Ann ran the marathon in 1989 (transitive) - Ann runs a business in London (transitive)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The best thing you can do is to look verbs up in a dictionary &lt;a href="http://dictionary.cambridge.org/"&gt;like this one&lt;/a&gt;. For each verb, you will find (T) and/or (I), which stand for &amp;quot;&lt;em&gt;transitive&lt;/em&gt;&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;&lt;em&gt;intransitive&lt;/em&gt;&amp;quot; respectively.&amp;nbsp;I am pretty sure you also can find many useful posts about this topic in the forums (especially in the linguistics section).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img id="@@emo@@" alt="(:)) Smile" src="http://www.englishforums.com/emoticons/emotion-1.gif" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Appositive, direct object, indirect, predicate nominative, object of prepos</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/AppositiveDirectObjectIndirect-PredicateNominativeObjectPrep/gjrzr/post.htm#545428</link><pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:45:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:545428</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>&lt;em&gt;&amp;quot;Scurvy&lt;/em&gt;, a vitamin C deficiency, makes &lt;em&gt;people&lt;/em&gt; &lt;em&gt;weak&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;sore&lt;/em&gt;.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Scurvy&lt;/em&gt; is the subject, because it is the thing which&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;makes people weak and sore.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;People&lt;/em&gt; is the direct object, because it is what scurvy is affecting, direct objects usually follow verbs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Weak&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;sore&lt;/em&gt; are objective complements, because they modify the direct object, &lt;em&gt;people&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;Scurvy was the leading &lt;em&gt;cause&lt;/em&gt; of death among &lt;em&gt;sailors&lt;/em&gt; in the early eighteen century.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Cause&lt;/em&gt; is the predicate nominative, because it stands for the subject, scurvy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Sailors&lt;/em&gt; is the object of a preposition, because it follows the preposition among, and acts as the subject of the prepositional phrase.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;In 1753, James Lind, a Scottish naval &lt;em&gt;surgeon&lt;/em&gt;, showed that citrus could cure scurvy.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Surgeon&lt;/em&gt; is an appositive for James Lind, because it describes him further, but is not essential to the sentence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;When the British &lt;em&gt;navy&lt;/em&gt; gave &lt;em&gt;sailors&lt;/em&gt; fresh citrus &lt;em&gt;juice&lt;/em&gt;, scurvy disappeared from their ships.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Navy&lt;/em&gt; is the subject, because it is the thing which &lt;em&gt;gave&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Sailors &lt;/em&gt;is an indirect object, because they are the people to whom the juice was given.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Juice&lt;/em&gt; is the direct object, because it is the thing which was given.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;Today, scurvy is rare; it is usually seen only in very old or very young patients whose diets are deficient in &lt;em&gt;vitamin C&lt;/em&gt;.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Vitamin C&lt;/em&gt; is an object of a preposition because it is the subject of the prepositional phrase, &amp;quot;in vitamin C.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When trying to&amp;nbsp;diagram a sentence I think it becomes easier when you take out the unnecessary words. For example change &amp;quot;scurvy was the leading &lt;em&gt;cause&lt;/em&gt; of death among &lt;em&gt;sailors&lt;/em&gt; in the early eighteen century,&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;scurvy was the cause of death among sailors in century.&amp;quot; The latter is less senseful, but makes it easier to diagram the sentence&amp;#39;s nouns. Of course that method wouldn&amp;#39;t work as well when you&amp;#39;re asked to diagram words other than nouns. &lt;br /&gt;I hope this made some sense, and helped!&lt;br /&gt;-Nathan</description></item><item><title>Re: Appositive, direct object, indirect, predicate nominative, object of prepos</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/AppositiveDirectObjectIndirect-PredicateNominativeObjectPrep/gjrcl/post.htm#545388</link><pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:09:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:545388</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>&lt;em&gt;&amp;quot;Scurvy&lt;/em&gt;, a vitamin C deficiency, makes &lt;em&gt;people&lt;/em&gt; &lt;em&gt;weak&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;sore&lt;/em&gt;.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Scurvy&lt;/em&gt; is the subject, because it is the thing which&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;makes people weak and sore.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;People&lt;/em&gt; is the direct object, because it is what scurvy is affecting, direct objects usually follow verbs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Weak&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;sore&lt;/em&gt; are objective complements, because they modify the direct object, &lt;em&gt;people&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;Scurvy was the leading &lt;em&gt;cause&lt;/em&gt; of death among &lt;em&gt;sailors&lt;/em&gt; in the early eighteen century.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Cause&lt;/em&gt; is the predicate nominative, because it stands for the subject, scurvy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Sailors&lt;/em&gt; is the object of a preposition, because it follows the preposition among, and acts as the subject of the prepositional phrase.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;In 1753, James Lind, a Scottish naval &lt;em&gt;surgeon&lt;/em&gt;, showed that citrus could cure scurvy.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Surgeon&lt;/em&gt; is an appositive for James Lind, because it describes him further, but is not essential to the sentence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;When the British &lt;em&gt;navy&lt;/em&gt; gave &lt;em&gt;sailors&lt;/em&gt; fresh citrus &lt;em&gt;juice&lt;/em&gt;, scurvy disappeared from their ships.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Navy&lt;/em&gt; is the subject, because it is the thing which &lt;em&gt;gave&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Sailors &lt;/em&gt;is an indirect object, because they are the people to whom the juice was given.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Juice&lt;/em&gt; is the direct object, because it is the thing which was given.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;Today, scurvy is rare; it is usually seen only in very old or very young patients whose diets are deficient in &lt;em&gt;vitamin C&lt;/em&gt;.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Vitamin C&lt;/em&gt; is an object of a preposition because it is the subject of the prepositional phrase, &amp;quot;in vitamin C.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When trying to&amp;nbsp;diagram a sentence I think it becomes easier when you take out the unnecessary words. For example change &amp;quot;scurvy was the leading &lt;em&gt;cause&lt;/em&gt; of death among &lt;em&gt;sailors&lt;/em&gt; in the early eighteen century,&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;scurvy was the cause of death among sailors in century.&amp;quot; The latter is less senseful, but makes it easier to diagram the sentence&amp;#39;s nouns. Of course that method wouldn&amp;#39;t work as well when you&amp;#39;re asked to diagram words other than nouns. &lt;br /&gt;I hope this made some sense, and helped!&lt;br /&gt;-Nathan</description></item><item><title>Re: direct object indirect object object of a preposition help me! plz</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/DirectObjectIndirectObjectObject-Preposition/3/ghjcm/Post.htm#538164</link><pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 06:13:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:538164</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>Question when do&amp;nbsp;I use to&amp;nbsp; or from with direct object and indirect object&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;ex. &lt;br /&gt;I passed the salt to her&lt;br /&gt;I passed the salt for her.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;In these cases both prepositions are correct . I need to find the rule of when to use each one.&amp;nbsp; I am a teacher and I cant explain it to my student. Please help</description></item><item><title>Re: Direct object and clauses</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/DirectObjectAndClauses/gzhlx/post.htm#527915</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 03:31:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:527915</guid><dc:creator>Avangi</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Cute572&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;We both thought that this novel was one of the finest &lt;em&gt;books&lt;/em&gt; we have ever read.&amp;nbsp; &lt;p&gt;I read that direct object recives the action. Here book get the action &amp;quot;read&amp;quot; which make its a direct object. But preposition Of&amp;nbsp; make me confuse. Whether its a object of preposition or not. Secondly is ONE is direct object here ?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;I think of direct and indirect objects in connection with transitive verbs&amp;nbsp; (action verbs&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; doing something to somebody). Your example uses a &amp;quot;verb of being,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;to be&amp;quot; (something &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;"&gt;is&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; something). The &amp;quot;that&amp;quot; clause has no direct or indirect object.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;"&gt;Novel was one&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. The subject of the clause is &amp;quot;Novel,&amp;quot; and the verb is &amp;quot;was.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; There&amp;#39;s no action, so there&amp;#39;s no object.&amp;nbsp; In the 40&amp;#39;s we used to call &amp;quot;one&amp;quot; the &amp;quot;predicate nominative,&amp;quot; but now I guess they call it the &amp;quot;verb compliment.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;Books&amp;quot; is object of the preposition, as you suspect, not object of the verb (where we would use &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;"&gt;direct/indirect&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;).&amp;nbsp; The prepositional phrase modifies &amp;quot;one.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;We have ever read&amp;quot; is a clause, modifying &amp;quot;books.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; I can understand why you think&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;books&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp;might be object of the verb &amp;quot;read,&amp;quot; and I&amp;#39;m not sure how to explain why it&amp;#39;s not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To back way up, if you&amp;#39;re looking for a true action verb that functions as a true action verb, you&amp;#39;ll find it in the main clause,&amp;nbsp; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;"&gt;We thought&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.&amp;nbsp; It&amp;#39;s intransitive, so it has a direct object but no indirect object.&amp;nbsp; The direct object is the &amp;quot;that&amp;quot; clause.&amp;nbsp; (What did we both think??)&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Huevos&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;It gives me pleasure to introduce you to Paul. It = subject; &amp;quot;to introduce you to Paul&amp;quot; = direct object; (to) me = indirect object.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Cute572&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;Could you please explain why &amp;quot;to introduce you to Paul&amp;quot; is direct object and not object of&amp;nbsp; preposition ?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; As its starts with preposition&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&amp;quot;To&amp;quot; is not a preposition here.&amp;nbsp; It&amp;#39;s part of the infinitive form of the verb, &amp;quot;to introduce.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; &amp;quot;To introduce you to Paul&amp;quot; is an infinitive phrase acting as a noun,&amp;nbsp; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; a prepositional phrase.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Best wishes,&amp;nbsp; - A.&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Is it a subject relative?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/RelativeClauseSentence/zpmbn/post.htm#494798</link><pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 05:02:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:494798</guid><dc:creator>miriam</dc:creator><description>Hello.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Relative clauses can only be (from a syntactic point of view) either post-modifiers of nouns/pronouns, or sentence modifiers. They are never objects; they don&amp;#39;t modify verbs.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;What can be subjects or objects, WITHIN the relative clauses themselves, are the relative pronouns used (who, that, which, etc.).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You provided the following examples: &amp;quot;The girl laughed at the boy who is bigger than her&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;The boy hit the girl who slept&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Both sentences could use some changes, but I will concentrate on what you&amp;#39;re asking only.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In the first sentence, &amp;quot;who is bigger than her&amp;quot; is a restrictive relative clause acting as post-modifier of the noun &amp;quot;boy&amp;quot;. The relative pronoun &amp;quot;who&amp;quot; is the subject of the relative clause.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Your second sentence is another example of the relative pronoun as subject of the relative clause. The clause is &amp;quot;who slept&amp;quot;, with &amp;quot;who&amp;quot; as its subject.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Here are a couple of examples of relative clauses in which the relative pronoun acts as object:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1. &amp;quot;Where is the flower-pot (&lt;b&gt;that &lt;/b&gt;I gave you last month)?&amp;quot; [that = direct object] (the subject of the clause is &amp;quot;I&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2. &amp;quot;The books (&lt;b&gt;that &lt;/b&gt;are on the table) are Paul&amp;#39;s.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; [that = subject (the books)]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;3. &amp;quot;You don&amp;#39;t know the man (&lt;b&gt;to whom&lt;/b&gt; my sister sold her car).&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; [to whom = indirect object] (the subject of the clause is &amp;quot;my sister&amp;quot;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There are also cases in which the relative pronoun is preceded by a preposition but you&amp;#39;re not in the presence of an indirect object. In such cases, what you&amp;#39;ll have is an adjunct (or adverbial), as in the following sentence:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;4. &amp;quot;Chemistry is a subject &lt;b&gt;which &lt;/b&gt;I&amp;#39;ve always had problems with.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; [here, &amp;quot;with which&amp;quot; is neither subject nor object, but an adjunct/adverbial]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You can remove &amp;quot;which&amp;quot; (though not the preposition) from sentence #4, and the sentence will still make sense: &amp;quot;Chemistry is a subject I&amp;#39;ve always had problems with&amp;quot;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;One good way of telling whether the relative pronoun is acting as object (direct or indirect) or subject in the relative clause is trying to remove the pronoun in question from the clause. If you do, and the sentence still makes sense, that will most probably mean that the relative pronoun is the &lt;b&gt;object &lt;/b&gt;of the clause (watch out for adjuncts, though). If you can&amp;#39;t remove the pronoun, that will mean it&amp;#39;s the &lt;b&gt;subject&lt;/b&gt; (of the relative clause). Have a look at my examples and give this a try. You won&amp;#39;t have a correct sentence in #2 if you remove the relative proboun, but you can certainly remove it in the other three examples. You&amp;#39;ll have to make a minor change in sentence #3, though. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;See if you can do it and what you come up with.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I hope this helps.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Miriam.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Verbs</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Verbs/zxkld/post.htm</link><pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:38:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:489467</guid><dc:creator>ganesh77</dc:creator><description>The list isn&amp;#39;t meant to be exhaustive or carefully arranged. Any additions, corrections or further examples would be welcomed.&amp;nbsp;

&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1 main verbs; lexical verbs (all verbs which are not
auxiliaries or modals) &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2 action verbs; event verbs; dynamic verbs (a verb which can
be used in continuous tenses) i.e. eat, run, talk&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;3 state of being verbs; existence verbs; state verbs;
stative verbs; static verbs (a verb which describes a state and is not usually
used in a continuous tense) i.e. be, own, know&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;4 regular verbs (a verb that has four forms and follows the
normal rules)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;5 irregular verbs; strong verbs (a verb not following the
normal rules for inflection)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;6 auxiliary and modal verbs (which make up verbal phrases) â
23 in total&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;7 linking verbs; copulative verbs; copulas (a verb which
links the subject and complement of a clause) i.e. It is warm today.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;8 transitive verbs (a verb used to talk about an action or
event that involves more than one person or thing, and so is followed by an
object) i.e. Sheâs wasting her money. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;9 intransitive verbs (a verb used to talk about an action or
event that only involved the subject and so has no object) i.e. She arrived. &lt;/p&gt;







&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;10 multiword verbs&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;a type 1 â intransitive [phrasal
verbs; adverb particle&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;b type 2 â transitive (inseparable)
[prepositional verbs; preposition particles]&lt;/p&gt;





&lt;p&gt;c type 3 â transitive (separable) [phrasal
verbs; adverb particle]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;d type 4 â transitive (with two
inseparable particles) [phrasal-prepositional verbs;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; first particle is
an adverb, second particle is a preposition]&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;11 compound verbs&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;12 delexical verbs (a verb which has very little meaning in
itself but is used with an object to describe an action) i.e. She gave a small
cry.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;13 ditransitive verbs (a verb which can have both a direct
and indirect object) i.e. She gave me a kiss. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;14 ergative verbs (a verb which can be used transitively to
focus on the performer of the action, or intransitively to focus on the thing
affected by the action) i.e. He boiled the water. The water boiled. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;15 reporting verbs; performance verbs; performative verbs (a
verb used with a quote or a reported clause to describe what people say or
think) i.e. suggest, say, wonder&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;16 reciprocal verbs (a verb which describes an action
involving two people doing the same thing to each other) i.e. They met in the
street. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;17 reflexive verbs (a verb which is typically used with a
reflexive pronoun) i.e. Donât cut yourself with that knife.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;18 defective verbs (a verb without all the inflected forms
of a regular verb) i.e. modals &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;19 finite and non-finite&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;a infinitives&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;b gerunds; verbal nouns&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;c participles&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;20 catenative verbs (a verb that takes other verb forms as
objects; found at the head of a series of linked constructions) i.e. We agreed
to try to decide to stop eating snacks.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;21 causative verbs (a verb that designates the action
necessary to cause another action to happen) i.e. The devil made me do it. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: About the meaning of &amp;amp;quot;where&amp;amp;quot;</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/AboutTheMeaningOfWhere/zlppd/post.htm#476241</link><pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:11:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:476241</guid><dc:creator>Velimir</dc:creator><description>&lt;br /&gt;I&amp;#39;ll try to give some information on this as a non-professional.This is how it looks like in the serbian language,and I suppose,it is very similar in all other slavic languages and also the latin language.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For indicating a location the locative case of a noun is used.If the english language had similar declension of nouns then the nouns following the prepositions &amp;quot;in&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;at&amp;quot; would be in the locative case.The presence of the preceding preposition is obligatory when the noun is in the locative case.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But,if the verb indicates motion,or in plain english,if you are :&lt;br /&gt; going to, flying to, traveling to..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;like in the question given in the opening post,then the noun will be in the dative case.This case you can connect with the nouns following the preposition &amp;quot;to&amp;quot; although the preposition is not necessarily present.The word &amp;quot;dative&amp;quot; derives from latin &amp;quot;dare&amp;quot; which means &amp;quot;to give&amp;quot; and the usage is most obvious on the example of that verb: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; I gave my girlfriend a flower.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you translated this in serbian,&amp;quot;girlfriend&amp;quot; would be in the dative case.Indirect object is in the dative case.The direct object (&amp;quot;a flower&amp;quot;) is in the accusative case.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &amp;quot;Cases play a major part in determining a noun&amp;#39;s syntactic role in the sentence, so word order is not as important in Latin as it is in other languages, such as English. Because of noun cases, words can often be moved around in a sentence without significantly altering its meaning, though the emphasis will have altered&amp;quot; (from a Wikipedia article on the latin language)&lt;br /&gt; Btw,changing nouns,adjectives,pronouns and numbers to different cases is pretty tough area of the language with more cases,and is often lifelong mistery for many natives,and I know that well.Luckily,english is not a case-sensitive language.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Best regards&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: direct object indirect object object of a preposition help me! plz</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/DirectObjectIndirectObjectObject-Preposition/2/zwmcq/Post.htm#460427</link><pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:12:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:460427</guid><dc:creator>ClarkePeters</dc:creator><description>This post is a little dated but since I've been working with my students on this very topic I thought I'd post.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;First, you can't understand what the "object of the preposition" is if you don't first know how to identify prepositions.&amp;nbsp; So you need to find a list (google&amp;nbsp; "list prepositions English"&amp;nbsp; or "frequency list prepositions English") and you should get plenty of lists.&amp;nbsp; Depending on which list you go by, there are from 80 to 130 or so prepositions.&amp;nbsp; Most are not used too often, so I'd get a frequency list and try to learn the first 50 or so.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; That may sound like a lot of words, but compared to the number of words in Webster's 500,000 word dictionary, that's really very few words--and they are SO IMPORTANT to understanding sentence structure.&amp;nbsp; If you don't want to memorize, no problem, just keep a list with you at all times. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When you come across a word from the list, check to see if it has an object by asking "what" after the preposition.&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; John called about the party.&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; about what? the party,&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; so "party" or "the party" if you include the article, is the object of the preposition.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Be careful, prepositions sometimes act as adverbs.&lt;br&gt;John got up and went to the kitchen.&lt;br&gt;up what? ---ummmm, no answer, there is NO object,&amp;nbsp; so "up" is an adverb to "got"&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;as for DO, ask "what" after the verb.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John made a cake.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br&gt;John made what? a cake &lt;br&gt;DO is cake&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;as for IO, ask "to whom/what?" or "for whom/what?" after the DO&lt;br&gt;John made Mary a cake.&lt;br&gt;John made what?&amp;nbsp; a cake&lt;br&gt;DO is cake&lt;br&gt;a cake for whom? for Mary&lt;br&gt;IO is Mary.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The following sentences are exactly the same in meaning! (except maybe in emphasis)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John made Mary a cake.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; common usage&lt;br&gt;John made for Mary a cake.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; NOT common usage, but technically &lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; correct, sometimes used for emphasis&lt;br&gt;John made a cake for Mary.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; common usage&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;same with "to"&lt;br&gt;John gave Mary a cake.&lt;br&gt;John gave to Mary a cake.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; NOT common usage&lt;br&gt;John gave a cake to Mary.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;some grammarians will say that an IO can ONLY be between the verb and DO.&lt;br&gt;Other linguists say functionally there is no difference, so it is OK to say that "to Mary" or "for Mary" is the IO.&amp;nbsp; However, others will argue that they are adverbials answering the question where (to) or why (for) about the verb (made why? for Mary&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; gave where? to Mary).&amp;nbsp; &lt;br&gt;How one describes it is not important, as they all function the same.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>