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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Invitations tag:Prepositions' matching tags 'Invitations' and 'Prepositions'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aInvitations+tag%3aPrepositions&amp;tag=Invitations,Prepositions&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Invitations tag:Prepositions' matching tags 'Invitations' and 'Prepositions'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3232.18851)</generator><item><title>Re: TOEIC question</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ToeicQuestion/ddpvp/post.htm#269720</link><pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 07:34:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:269720</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>The idiom is &lt;i&gt;to &lt;u&gt;have&lt;/u&gt; [&lt;u&gt;amount of time&lt;/u&gt;] &lt;u&gt;to&lt;/u&gt; (do something)&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
It means that the action described by the final infinitive must be done within the amount of time allotted.&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;

The students &lt;u&gt;had&lt;/u&gt; &lt;u&gt;one hour&lt;/u&gt; &lt;u&gt;to&lt;/u&gt; complete the exam.&lt;br&gt;


We &lt;u&gt;have&lt;/u&gt; &lt;u&gt;three months&lt;/u&gt; &lt;u&gt;to&lt;/u&gt; install the kitchen cabinets.&lt;br&gt;


Martha and Sam &lt;u&gt;have&lt;/u&gt; &lt;u&gt;only three days&lt;/u&gt; &lt;u&gt;to&lt;/u&gt; prepare for the party.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;

Focus on just the amount of time.&amp;nbsp; The amount of time can be
expressed in several additional ways with the help of prepositions like
&lt;i&gt;since&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;until&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;from&lt;/i&gt;, and &lt;i&gt;to&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp; These
prepositions are used to show the temporal boundaries of amounts of
time, so the amount of time is shown indirectly by mentioning the
beginning and/or ending of the time period.&amp;nbsp; (If only one of the
two boundaries is mentioned, the other boundary normally defaults to &lt;i&gt;now&lt;/i&gt;.)&lt;br&gt;

&lt;i&gt;&lt;br&gt;


The students &lt;u&gt;have had&lt;/u&gt; &lt;u&gt;&lt;b&gt;since&lt;/b&gt; last Thursday&lt;/u&gt; &lt;u&gt;to&lt;/u&gt; finish the homework.&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp; (The amount of time is &lt;i&gt;from last Thursday until now&lt;/i&gt;.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;

We &lt;u&gt;have&lt;/u&gt; &lt;u&gt;&lt;b&gt;until&lt;/b&gt; March 17&lt;/u&gt; &lt;u&gt;to&lt;/u&gt; make a decision.&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp; (The amount of time is &lt;i&gt;from now until March 17&lt;/i&gt;.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;

Martha and Sam &lt;u&gt;have&lt;/u&gt; &lt;u&gt;&lt;b&gt;from&lt;/b&gt; Wednesday &lt;b&gt;to&lt;/b&gt; the end of the week&lt;/u&gt; &lt;u&gt;to&lt;/u&gt; buy the ingredients.&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp; (The amount of time is &lt;i&gt;from Wednesday to the end of the week&lt;/i&gt;.)&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;

The words &lt;i&gt;before&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;after&lt;/i&gt; are used differently.&amp;nbsp; They specify &lt;i&gt;when&lt;/i&gt;
in time, usually with respect to a point in time as marked by some
event.&amp;nbsp; In this way they are similar to expressions like &lt;i&gt;at 6 o'clock&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp; They don't specify &lt;i&gt;how much time&lt;/i&gt; either directly (as in &lt;i&gt;one hour&lt;/i&gt;) or indirectly through time boundaries (as in &lt;i&gt;until tomorrow&lt;/i&gt;).&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;

&lt;i&gt;after the concert&lt;/i&gt; says &lt;u&gt;when&lt;/u&gt; (with respect to the time of the concert), not &lt;u&gt;how much&lt;/u&gt; time.&lt;br&gt;

&lt;i&gt;before sunset&lt;/i&gt; says &lt;u&gt;when&lt;/u&gt; (with respect to the time of sunset), not &lt;u&gt;how much&lt;/u&gt; time.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Consider what is wrong here:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt;*We have at 6 o'clock to finish the job.&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;(at 6 o'clock&lt;/i&gt; is not an amount of time.)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt;*We have after Tuesday to decide on a plan&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;(after Tuesday&lt;/i&gt; is not an amount of time.)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
It is possible, although less usual, to combine the two sets of prepositions.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt;The men &lt;u&gt;have had&lt;/u&gt; &lt;u&gt;&lt;b&gt;since&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b&gt;before&lt;/b&gt; the end of last week&lt;/u&gt; &lt;u&gt;to&lt;/u&gt; pave the road.&lt;br&gt;
Sam and Yolanda &lt;u&gt;have&lt;/u&gt; &lt;u&gt;&lt;b&gt;until&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b&gt;after&lt;/b&gt; the 15th&lt;/u&gt; &lt;u&gt;to&lt;/u&gt; send the invitations.&lt;br&gt;
We will probably &lt;u&gt;have&lt;/u&gt; &lt;u&gt;&lt;b&gt;until&lt;/b&gt; just &lt;b&gt;before&lt;/b&gt; 7:15&lt;/u&gt; &lt;u&gt;to&lt;/u&gt; get to the box office and pick up the tickets.&lt;br&gt;
Jack &lt;u&gt;has&lt;/u&gt; &lt;u&gt;&lt;b&gt;from&lt;/b&gt; slightly &lt;b&gt;after&lt;/b&gt; 8 &lt;b&gt;until&lt;/b&gt; five minutes &lt;b&gt;before&lt;/b&gt; 9&lt;/u&gt; &lt;u&gt;to&lt;/u&gt; clean the bedrooms.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
I hope this helps.&lt;br&gt;
CJ&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Who vs. whom</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhoVsWhom/drkhg/post.htm#253578</link><pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 23:56:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:253578</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>Not when the preposition is followed directly by "who", no!&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
(When I said 99.99999%, I was referring only to the choice between
"who" and "whom" in the example sentence about an invitation.)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
CJ&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: whomever/whoever</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhomeverWhoever/cxmvr/post.htm#239360</link><pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:34:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:239360</guid><dc:creator>Kilimanjaro</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Mister Micawber wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;I&gt;Whoever&lt;/I&gt;,&lt;/B&gt; as the subject of the verb &lt;I&gt;may come&lt;/I&gt;, takes grammatical priority.&amp;nbsp; The whole clause is the object of the preposition, &lt;I&gt;to&lt;/I&gt;.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;Does a little bit of alteration change the choice Micawber? &amp;nbsp;as in :&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;I'll send these invitation cards to whomever/whoever the party was arranged for.&lt;/STRONG&gt; (in this case both relative pronouns seem to be in object position)&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: who(m)</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhoM/clnjd/post.htm#224998</link><pubDate>Sat, 13 May 2006 00:41:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:224998</guid><dc:creator>MrPedantic</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;You use "whom" for the object of a verb or preposition, and "who" for the subject of the verb, e.g.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1.&amp;nbsp;&lt;U&gt;Who&lt;/U&gt;'s coming to the party? [who = subject of "is"]&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. &lt;U&gt;Whom&lt;/U&gt; did you invite to the party? [whom = object of "invite"]&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3. There were several grammarians at the party, none &lt;U&gt;of whom&lt;/U&gt; had an invitation. [whom = object of "of"]&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You'll often hear "who" for "whom", when it's used as the object of a verb (as in #2); less often, when it's the object of a preposition (as in #3), unless the preposition is separated from the pronoun, e.g.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;4. Who did you give it to?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;MrP&lt;/P&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>