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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Modal verbs tag:Negatives' matching tags 'Modal verbs' and 'Negatives'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aModal+verbs+tag%3aNegatives&amp;tag=Modal+verbs,Negatives&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Modal verbs tag:Negatives' matching tags 'Modal verbs' and 'Negatives'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3170.31378)</generator><item><title>Re: or /nor</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/OrNor/ggdcx/post.htm#531519</link><pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:29:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:531519</guid><dc:creator>New2grammar</dc:creator><description>Or and Nor are killing me!&amp;nbsp; The following are the combinations that I know of&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Either ...or&lt;br /&gt;Neither...nor&lt;br /&gt;isn&amp;#39;t/doesn&amp;#39;t/negative modal verbs&amp;nbsp;...or (why NOR is possible???)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He doesn&amp;#39;t eat spaghetti or sushi (nor sushi??)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Please help.</description></item><item><title>Re: You need only see her. (Is this correct?)</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Correct/zpvxb/post.htm#492695</link><pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:05:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:492695</guid><dc:creator>Tanit</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Viceidol&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hi, I know that &lt;strong&gt;auxiliary verb &amp;quot;need&amp;quot;&lt;/strong&gt; cannot be used in affirmative statements, but how about this one? Is this correct? &lt;p&gt;You &lt;strong&gt;&lt;font color="#3366ff"&gt;need&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;only&lt;/strong&gt; see her.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hi,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let me quote Swann (&lt;em&gt;Practical English Usage&lt;/em&gt;, 3&lt;sup&gt;rd&lt;/sup&gt; ed., Â§ 366.2):&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Need &lt;/em&gt;can also have the same present-tense forms as modal auxiliary verbs ... In this case, &lt;em&gt;need &lt;/em&gt;is normally followed by an infinitive without &lt;em&gt;to&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;em&gt;She &lt;strong&gt;needn&amp;#39;t reserve&lt;/strong&gt; a seat - there&amp;#39;ll be plenty of room.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These forms are used mainly in negative sentences (&lt;em&gt;needn&amp;#39;t&lt;/em&gt;), but they are also possible in questions, after&lt;em&gt; if &lt;/em&gt;and in other &amp;#39;non-affirmative&amp;#39; structures.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;em&gt;You &lt;strong&gt;needn&amp;#39;t fill&lt;/strong&gt; in a form.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;strong&gt;Need &lt;/strong&gt;I&lt;strong&gt; fill i&lt;/strong&gt;n a form?&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; I wonder &lt;strong&gt;if &lt;/strong&gt;I &lt;strong&gt;need fill &lt;/strong&gt;in a form.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; This is the only form you &lt;strong&gt;need fill&lt;/strong&gt; in. &lt;/em&gt;(BUT NOT &lt;strike&gt;&lt;em&gt;You need fill in a form&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strike&gt;.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we follow Swann, we can use &lt;em&gt;need &lt;/em&gt;as a modal verb in an affirmative sentence when a &amp;#39;non-affirmative&amp;#39; word (such as &lt;em&gt;only, hardly, seldom&lt;/em&gt; etc.) gives the sentence a negative kind of meaning. Look at Swann&amp;#39;s last example: the sentence becomes incorrect when &lt;em&gt;only &lt;/em&gt;is removed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That said, please notice this usage is mainly British.</description></item><item><title>Re: Using &amp;quot;could&amp;quot; making a question</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/UsingCouldMakingAQuestion/znjlv/post.htm#484266</link><pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 04:16:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:484266</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>&lt;b&gt;It could rain tomorrow. &lt;/b&gt;means that it is possible that it will rain.&amp;nbsp; The modal verb &amp;#39;could&amp;#39; expresses possibility.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;The negative would normally be expressed by &amp;quot;It couldn&amp;#39;t possibly rain tomorrow.&amp;quot; (we&amp;#39;re in the desert!)&amp;nbsp; or &amp;quot;It&amp;#39;s not possible that it will rain tomorrow.&amp;quot; (we&amp;#39;ve had rain for 40 days and 40 nights, and it&amp;#39;s ludicrous to add on another day of rain!)&amp;nbsp; or by the opinion, &amp;quot;I don&amp;#39;t think it will rain tomorrow.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;So, the sentence, &amp;quot;It could rain tomorrow.&amp;quot; means &amp;quot;It is possible that it will rain.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Therefore, the question, &amp;quot;Is it possible for it to rain tomorrow?&amp;quot; and the negative, &amp;quot;It is not possible that it will rain tomorrow.&amp;quot; are not so common, and therefore, sound odd.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;V.C.&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: Modal verb Used to, understood?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ModalVerbUsedToUnderstood/znhqp/post.htm#483784</link><pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 21:23:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:483784</guid><dc:creator>Cool Breeze</dc:creator><description>&amp;nbsp;Hi Eladio&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You have a mathematical mind! Congratulations! In addition to what CalifJim and MrP have said, I would like to add a couple of comments. In one of your sentences &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; is in the wrong place:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;Shall not we ever get used to this house?&amp;quot; &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Not&lt;/i&gt; can&amp;#39;t be after a defective/modal auxiliary (&lt;i&gt;shall)&lt;/i&gt; in a negative question unless it is contracted (&lt;i&gt;shan&amp;#39;t). &lt;/i&gt;Say:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Shall/will we not ever get used to this house?&amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;Or, better still:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Shan&amp;#39;t/won&amp;#39;t we ever get used to this house? / Shall/will we &lt;b&gt;n&lt;/b&gt;ever get used to this house?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Secondly, &lt;i&gt;used to&lt;/i&gt; need not indicate &lt;u&gt;habitual&lt;/u&gt; action in the past. It is frequently used with verbs such as &lt;i&gt;live &lt;/i&gt;and &lt;i&gt;like&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;He used to live here when he was a teenager.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The meaning is the same as: &lt;i&gt;He lived here when he was a teenager.&lt;/i&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Another example: &lt;i&gt;I used to like the way she dressed in those days.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Cheers&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CB&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: did or was</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/DidOrWas/zlrnm/post.htm#471881</link><pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 16:10:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:471881</guid><dc:creator>Philip</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Anonymous wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Sometimes I get confused which one to used in the situations like the one&amp;nbsp; or ones below.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Did he go to school on Sunday?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Was he born in Japan?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Why one takes a modal verb 'did', whereas&amp;nbsp;the other one takes an auxiliary verb 'was'? How can I make correct choices?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;'Go' is a regular verb that uses do/does/did in the formation of negatives and questions.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;'Born' is actually the past participle of 'bear', here used in the passive.&amp;nbsp; 'He was born [by his mother until his birth]' has become shortened to 'he was born', which is now the common expression, people not even thinking of the actual meaning.&amp;nbsp; Dictionaries now list it as an adjective in its own right:&amp;nbsp; 'brought into life by birth'.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: How to say using modal verb?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/HowToSayUsingModalVerb/zwggz/post.htm#458750</link><pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 09:58:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:458750</guid><dc:creator>Fandorin</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;Hmm...But why can't I use "any longer" in this case or it's using only in negative way&amp;nbsp;?&amp;nbsp; And how I understand it's impossible to use can with future tenses and it's implied that "can" relate to present and future, isn't it?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If I say : "How can I work hereafter?" Will it be correct?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Politeness using negative questions</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PolitenessUsingNegativeQuestions/zhhpk/post.htm#454284</link><pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:09:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:454284</guid><dc:creator>Kooyeen</dc:creator><description>Hi again,&lt;br&gt;I think you guys are right. maybe now I understand. I just read some stuff on the net about negative questions, plus one of Jim's posts, and this "idea" I had seems the right one:&lt;br&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Kooyeen wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Idea! &lt;img src="/emoticons/emotion-55.gif" alt="Idea [I]" /&gt; Maybe that only works with modals and with requests, not permissions? So&lt;i&gt; couldn't you, wouldn't you, won't you, can't you&lt;/i&gt;... are used for politeness, but &lt;i&gt;can't I, couldn't I, don't you, aren't you... &lt;/i&gt;only sound like you're insisting, which is the opposite of being polite?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Negative questions are possible with modals, but they are not going to sound more polite, but a little less polite instead, because they imply a positive answer is expected and so they actually sound a little more demanding. -&amp;gt; Wouldn't you like a cookie? Couldn't you answer my question? &lt;br&gt;When there are no modals, a positive answer is still expected, and negative questions are not used to ask a neutral or polite question.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What made me change my mind was an article written by someone who had a non-native (Russian) boss who sounded really rude because of his negative questions, which he thought they were a polite way to ask everything. If I hadn't found out about this, I would have end up like him, LOL.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I still have a problem: I said asking negative questions with &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;modal verbs&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is still considered "polite", even though it sounds a little bit more demanding (Could you...? ---&amp;gt; Couldn't you...? // Would you...? ---&amp;gt; Wouldn't you...? // etc.)&lt;br&gt;I'm afraid (but not sure) there are some exceptions. &lt;br&gt;&lt;u&gt;First exception:&lt;/u&gt; &lt;b&gt;not all modals.&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt;Can&lt;/i&gt; might be an exception (Can you...? ---&amp;gt; Can't you?) and he negative might not be accepted among the "polite" expressions. &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Can you give me one? ---&amp;gt; Can't you give me one?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;u&gt;Second exception:&lt;/u&gt; &lt;b&gt;this might not work with the first person &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;we&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; (Can I...? Could I...? ---&amp;gt; Can't I...? Couldn't I?) and the negative wouldn't sound polite anymore. &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Could I go out? ---&amp;gt; Couldn't I go out?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sorry if this thread is a mess... this is very different in Italian, and I'd like to avoid sounding rude or annoying someone without wanting to. &lt;br&gt;Thanks a lot in advance. &lt;img src="/emoticons/emotion-1.gif" alt="Smile [:)]" /&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Tag question with Need</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TagQuestionWithNeed/vxqln/post.htm#407690</link><pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:09:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:407690</guid><dc:creator>Belly</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;CalifJim wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;&lt;I&gt;need&lt;/I&gt; is a normal verb in the affirmative, a normal or modal verb in the negative.&lt;BR&gt;(Don't forget to change the affirmative-negative polarity in the tag.)&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;You need money, don't you?&amp;nbsp; [normal; affirmative]&lt;BR&gt;I needn't do that, need I?&amp;nbsp; [modal; negative]&lt;BR&gt;I don't need to do that, do I?&amp;nbsp; [normal; negative]&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;CJ&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;So that means I can write:&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;I needn't do that, need I?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;right?&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Tag question with Need</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TagQuestionWithNeed/vxqwk/post.htm#407636</link><pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 06:34:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:407636</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>&lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt; is a normal verb in the affirmative, a normal or modal verb in the negative.&lt;br&gt;
(Don't forget to change the affirmative-negative polarity in the tag.)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
You need money, don't you?&amp;nbsp; [normal; affirmative]&lt;br&gt;
I needn't do that, need I?&amp;nbsp; [modal; negative]&lt;br&gt;
I don't need to do that, do I?&amp;nbsp; [normal; negative]&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
CJ&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: more examples please</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MoreExamplesPlease/vxpnl/post.htm#407433</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:51:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:407433</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>If I understand your questions correctly, then 'yes' to all of them.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
You can apply the same rules to quoted or parenthesized content.&lt;br&gt;
Quoted contents are free to assume many grammatical roles.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Your two examples in italics are correct, except &lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt; is a modal verb in the negative, so it should be &lt;i&gt;need not&lt;/i&gt;, not &lt;i&gt;needs not&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Also, it's &lt;i&gt;carte b&lt;b&gt;l&lt;/b&gt;anche&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
CJ&lt;br&gt;
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