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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Nouns tag:Football' matching tags 'Nouns' and 'Football'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aNouns+tag%3aFootball</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Nouns tag:Football' matching tags 'Nouns' and 'Football'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3256.36449)</generator><item><title>Re: Down</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Down/hcdgh/post.htm#595449</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:08:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:595449</guid><dc:creator>Mister Micawber</dc:creator><description>.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;To vast a question, d_say-- and the sentences are already in English!&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;DOWN:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;âadverb &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;1.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;from higher to lower; in descending direction or order; toward, into, or in a lower position: &lt;span&gt;to come down the ladder. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;2.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;on or to the ground, floor, or bottom: &lt;span&gt;He fell down. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;3.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;to or in a sitting or lying position.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;4.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;to or in a position, area, or district considered lower, esp. from a geographical or cartographic standpoint, as to the south, a business district, etc.: &lt;span&gt;We drove from San Francisco down to Los Angeles. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;5.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;to or at a lower value or rate.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;6.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;to a lesser pitch or volume: &lt;span&gt;Turn down the radio. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;7.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;in or to a calmer, less active, or less prominent state: &lt;span&gt;The wind died down. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;8.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;from an earlier to a later time: &lt;span&gt;from the 17th century down to the present. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;9.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;from a greater to a lesser strength, amount, etc.: &lt;span&gt;to water down liquor. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;10.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;in an attitude of earnest application: &lt;span&gt;to get down to work. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;11.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;on paper or in a book: &lt;span&gt;Write down the address. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;12.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;in cash at the time of purchase; at once: &lt;span&gt;We paid $50 down and $20 a month. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;13.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;to the point of defeat, submission, inactivity, etc.: &lt;span&gt;They shouted down the opposition. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;14.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;in or into a fixed or supine position: &lt;span&gt;They tied down the struggling animal. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;15.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;to the source or actual position: &lt;span&gt;The dogs tracked down the bear. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;16.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;into a condition of ill health: &lt;span&gt;He&amp;#39;s come down with a cold. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;17.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;in or into a lower status or condition: &lt;span&gt;kept down by lack of education. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;18.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Nautical&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;toward the lee side, so as to turn a vessel to windward: &lt;span&gt;Put the helm down! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;19.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Slang&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;on toast (as used in ordering a sandwich at a lunch counter or restaurant): &lt;span&gt;Give me a tuna down. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span&gt;âpreposition &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;20.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;in a descending or more remote direction or place on, over, or along: &lt;span&gt;They ran off down the street. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span&gt;âadjective &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;21.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;downward; going or directed downward: &lt;span&gt;the down escalator. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;22.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;being at a low position or on the ground, floor, or bottom.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;23.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;toward the south, a business district, etc.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;24.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;associated with or serving traffic, transportation, or the like, directed toward the south, a business district, etc.: &lt;span&gt;the down platform. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;25.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;downcast; depressed; dejected: &lt;span&gt;You seem very down today. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;26.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;ailing, esp., sick and bedridden: &lt;span&gt;He&amp;#39;s been down with a bad cold. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;27.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;being the portion of the full price, as of an article bought on the installment plan, that is paid at the time of purchase or delivery: &lt;span&gt;a payment of $200 down. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;28.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Football&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;(of the ball) not in play.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;29.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;behind an opponent or opponents in points, games, etc.: &lt;span&gt;The team won the pennant despite having been down three games in the final week of play. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;30.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Baseball&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt; &lt;a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=out&amp;amp;db=luna"&gt;out.&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;31.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;losing or having lost the amount indicated, esp. at gambling: &lt;span&gt;After an hour at poker, he was down $10. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;32.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;having placed one&amp;#39;s bet: &lt;span&gt;Are you down for the fourth race? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;33.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;finished, done, considered, or taken care of: &lt;span&gt;five down and one to go. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;34.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;out of order: &lt;span&gt;The computer has been down all day. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span&gt;ânoun &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;35.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;a downward movement; descent.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;36.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;a turn for the worse; reverse: &lt;span&gt;The business cycle experienced a sudden down. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;37.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Football&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;a.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;one of a series of four plays during which a team must advance the ball at least 10 yd. (9 m) to keep possession of it.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;b.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;the declaring of the ball as down or out of play, or the play immediately preceding this.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;38.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Slang&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;an order of toast at a lunch counter or restaurant.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;39.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Slang&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt; &lt;a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=downer&amp;amp;db=luna"&gt;downer&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;(&lt;/span&gt;defs. 1a, b&lt;span&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span&gt;âverb (used with object) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;40.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;to put, knock, or throw down; subdue: &lt;span&gt;He downed his opponent in the third round. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;41.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;to drink down, esp. quickly or in one gulp: &lt;span&gt;to down a tankard of ale. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;42.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Informal&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;to defeat in a game or contest: &lt;span&gt;The Mets downed the Dodgers in today&amp;#39;s game. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;43.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;to cause to fall from a height, esp. by shooting: &lt;span&gt;Antiaircraft guns downed ten bombers. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span&gt;âverb (used without object) &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;44.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;to go down; fall.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span&gt;âinterjection &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;45.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;(used as a command to a dog to stop attacking, to stop jumping on someone, to get off a couch or chair, etc.): &lt;span&gt;Down, Rover! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;46.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;(used as a command or warning to duck, take cover, or the like): &lt;span&gt;Down! They&amp;#39;re starting to shoot! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;span&gt;âIdioms&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;47.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;&lt;span&gt;down and out, &lt;/span&gt;down-and-out.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;48.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;&lt;span&gt;down cold &lt;span&gt;or&lt;/span&gt; pat, &lt;/span&gt;mastered or learned perfectly: &lt;span&gt;Another hour of studying and I&amp;#39;ll have the math lesson down cold. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;49.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;&lt;span&gt;down in the mouth, &lt;/span&gt;discouraged; depressed; sad.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;50.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;&lt;span&gt;down on, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Informal&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;hostile or averse to: &lt;span&gt;Why are you so down on sports? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;51.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;&lt;span&gt;down with! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;a.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;away with! cease!: &lt;span&gt;Down with tyranny! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt; &lt;/tr&gt; &lt;/table&gt; &lt;table&gt; &lt;tr&gt; &lt;td&gt;b.&lt;/td&gt; &lt;td&gt;on or toward the ground or into a lower position: &lt;span&gt;Down with your rifles! &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: passive voice</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PassiveVoice/2/gpbzb/Post.htm#575196</link><pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:53:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:575196</guid><dc:creator>Goodman</dc:creator><description>&lt;em&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#111111;"&gt;CB,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#111111;"&gt;Thank you for your input. At least I know I am not the only one with the PASSIVE approach toward this typeof sentences. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;Football is a popular sport&lt;/font&gt; &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;[&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;which/that &lt;/span&gt;is] played &lt;strong&gt;in almost&lt;/strong&gt; all As&lt;strong&gt;ia&lt;/strong&gt;n and European countries&lt;/font&gt;.&lt;/em&gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;-&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;The sentence consists of &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;a main clause&lt;/font&gt; and &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;a relative clause&lt;/font&gt;, which has been reduced by omitting &lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;the relative pronoun&lt;/span&gt; and the passive auxiliary (is). I call such structures clause equivalents, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#60bf00;"&gt;but terminology is unimportant here&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/strong&gt; The relative clause -&amp;nbsp; or its equivalent&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#60bf00;"&gt;is in the passive voice&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span&gt;Huevos &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span&gt;You were correct with your comment in the sense that my sentence was an active one because of the beginning structure of the sentence was &lt;span style="COLOR:blue;"&gt;âthis is a car of the futureâ¦â&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:blue;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;and what&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:blue;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;came after&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:blue;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;was â&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:red;"&gt;designed and built for safety and comfortâ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt; which is a adverbial clause. That- I completely agree, viewing from your angle.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;As I stated: â from my grammatical angleâ¦â that sentence is passive in NATUREâ. My disagreement was not in the literal grammatical interpretation of the anatomy of the sentence, but the tone or voice of it. If you donât mind, I like to know your take on this sentence &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#00ccff;"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#a94a76;"&gt;âI am completely exhausted just watching these toddlers ! â.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;Is this passive in your opinion? Or active? The reason I like to know is because some folks look at [exhausted] as an adjective, although it is a past participle. However, some may argue this is a passive voice sentence because my exhaustion was caused &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;by the act of watching the toddlers. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;I can see it both ways as correct. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: passive voice</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PassiveVoice/2/gprpc/Post.htm#575078</link><pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:51:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:575078</guid><dc:creator>Cool Breeze</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Huevos&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Goodman&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;football&amp;nbsp;is a popular sport played almost in all Asain and European countries.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="color:rgb(17, 17, 17);"&gt;There is no direct&amp;nbsp;agent here but it&amp;#39;s still a passive structure.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;That sentence is not in the passive voice.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;Football is a popular sport&lt;/font&gt; &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;[&lt;u&gt;which/that &lt;/u&gt;is] played &lt;b&gt;in almost&lt;/b&gt; all As&lt;b&gt;ia&lt;/b&gt;n and European countries&lt;/font&gt;.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The sentence consists of &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;a main clause&lt;/font&gt; and &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;a relative clause&lt;/font&gt;, which has been reduced by omitting &lt;u&gt;the relative pronoun&lt;/u&gt; and the passive auxiliary (is). I call such structures clause equivalents, but terminology is unimportant here. The relative clause -&amp;nbsp; or its equivalent&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; is in the passive voice.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A sentence ends with a full stop / period, an exclamation mark or a question mark. A clause need not have any punctuation after it, which is the case after the main clause in this sentence. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CB &lt;br /&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Message from John Cleese</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MessageFromJohnCleese/gjzgp/post.htm#546905</link><pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 07:57:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:546905</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>&lt;br /&gt;The response from the United States of America to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Message from Her Majesty the Queen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Let us start with your header, the use of Majesty. Here is how it is derived: After the fall of Rome, Majesty was used to describe a Monarch of the very highest rank - indeed, it was generally applied to God. The title was then also assumed by Monarchs of great powers as an attempt at self-praise and despite a supposed lower royal style as a King or Queen, who would thus often be called &amp;quot;His or Her Royal Majesty.&amp;quot; The first English king to be styled Majesty was Henry VIII. &lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;We can&amp;#39;t stand people that think of themselves as Gods. And technically it would be Goddess in this case. &amp;quot;Goddess&amp;quot; have you even seen a picture of your queen. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To the citizens of the United States of America from Her Sovereign Majesty&lt;br /&gt;Queen Elizabeth II&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In light of your failure in recent years to nominate competent candidates&lt;br /&gt;for President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give&lt;br /&gt;notice of the revocation of your independence, effective immediately.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Yes we sure do elect some bad presidents but that is what you get when you stop inbreeding the &amp;quot;Royal&amp;quot; blood line and end up with nit wits like your son. We like to see change occur every once in awhile. It is expected that we will elect a bad one every now and again but we will just elect another president. You on the other hand are stuck with your nit wits. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties&lt;br /&gt;over all states, commonwealths, and territories (except Kansas, which she&lt;br /&gt;does not fancy).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;Monarchial duties&amp;quot;, What is that? What does she do, exactly? Oh, I forgot. &amp;quot;Nothing&amp;quot; So we will gladly let her do her duties. We just won&amp;#39;t pay her unless she does something useful. And it figures that she would not want Kansas, that is where a lot of strong pioneering women come from in our history. Pioneering implies that she must do something.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your new Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, will appoint a Governor for America&lt;br /&gt;without the need for further elections.&lt;br /&gt;Congress and the Senate will be disbanded.&lt;br /&gt;A questionnaire may be circulated next year to determine whether any of you&lt;br /&gt;noticed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Wow, you are a deluded country. If you have not noticed, &amp;quot;The People&amp;quot; rule here, Congress and the Senate just try to keep us happy so they can keep their jobs. And as for the questionnaire if we are happy, we will not notice. If we are not happy, and we do not have the congress or senate to blame, You Will Notice. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To aid in the transition to a British Crown dependency, the following rules&lt;br /&gt;are introduced with immediate effect:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(You should look up &amp;quot;revocation&amp;quot; in the Oxford English Dictionary.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;So, you think that our authority was conferred to us by you. You gave us the rite to be the United States of America. &lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;You should pick up a history book, WE TOOK IT. We will let you know when we want to GIVE it back. Unless you think you can take it back. LOL. Like that would be possible, You can&amp;#39;t defend yourselves let alone attack anybody. It might behoove you to remember. The only freedoms you have are the freedoms you can defend. We&amp;#39;re Good. How about you?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1.Then look up aluminium, and check the pronunciation guide. You will be&lt;br /&gt;amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;noun, adjective Chiefly British&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; &amp;quot;We are Not British&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2.The letter &amp;#39;U&amp;#39; will be reinstated in words such as &amp;quot;colour&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;favour&amp;quot;,&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;labour&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;neighbour.&amp;quot; Likewise, you will learn to spell &amp;quot;doughnut&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;without skipping half the letters,? and the suffix &amp;#39;-ize&amp;#39; will be replaced&lt;br /&gt;by the suffix &amp;#39;-ise&amp;#39;.? Generally, you will be expected to raise your&lt;br /&gt;vocabulary to acceptable levels.? (look up &amp;quot;vocabulary&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;OK, You are starting to sound like the French. Do you really want to be associated with the French? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3.Using the same twenty-seven words interspersed with filler noises such&lt;br /&gt;as &amp;quot;like&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;you know&amp;quot; is an unacceptable and inefficient form of&lt;br /&gt;communication. There is no such thing as US English. We will let ***&lt;br /&gt;know on your behalf. The *** spell-checker will be adjusted to take&lt;br /&gt;into account the reinstated letter &amp;quot;u&amp;quot; and the elimination of -ize.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;You still using Microsoft, we moved on to Apple, Linux, etc...&amp;nbsp; And using &amp;quot;like&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;you know&amp;quot; is extremely efficient to educated people. For example; The British are becoming &amp;quot;like&amp;quot; the French. And that implies, &amp;quot;You know&amp;quot;. &amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;See rather than write paragraphs the thought was expressed in a simple statement.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4.July 4th will no longer be celebrated as a holiday.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;What, is it to embarrassing for you. I think we will keep it, unless you can take it. LOL&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5.You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers, or&lt;br /&gt;therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows&lt;br /&gt;that you&amp;#39;re not quite ready to be independent. Guns should only be used&lt;br /&gt;for&lt;br /&gt;shooting grouse. If you can&amp;#39;t sort things out without suing someone or&lt;br /&gt;speaking to a therapist then you&amp;#39;re not ready to shoot grouse.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Nice try, but we can still kick your butts without the guns. They call our lawyers, sharks, for a reason. They eat their prey, go ahead take them on. Our therapists make them feel better after kicking your butts. And as far as only shooting grouse. If you didn&amp;#39;t already kill every other animal in the forests that you no longer have, you might actually be able to go hunting.&amp;nbsp; When is the last time you saw a deer in the woods in your country?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;6.Therefore, you will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more&lt;br /&gt;dangerous than a vegetable peeler. Although a permit will be required if you&lt;br /&gt;wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;A vegetable peeler will be just fine. By the way do you grow potatoes, carrots, or anything that requires a vegetable peeler. Didn&amp;#39;t think so, you have to &amp;quot;farm&amp;quot; for that. And that is just so beneath you. Just keep buying our food. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;7.All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start&lt;br /&gt;driving on the left side with immediate effect. At the same time, you will&lt;br /&gt;go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion&lt;br /&gt;tables.&lt;br /&gt;Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense&lt;br /&gt;of humour.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Oh my God(Majesty), you are using that to better us. No wonder you lost your kingdom. Oh we have a &amp;quot;horse&amp;quot; if you want to sell your kingdom. We might even give you two horses. &lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;And we understand the British sense of humor. To laugh you must smile, to smile you must have nice &amp;quot;Teeth&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;You Know&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;8.The former USA will adopt UK prices on petrol (which you have been&lt;br /&gt;calling gasoline) of roughly $10/US gallon. Get used to it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Jealous? Remember that whole &amp;quot;No taxation without representation&amp;quot; thing. You should look into it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;9.You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries&lt;br /&gt;are not real chips, and those things you insist on calling potato chips&lt;br /&gt;are&lt;br /&gt;properly called crisps. Real chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and&lt;br /&gt;dressed not with catsup but with vinegar.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;For someone who &amp;quot;used&amp;quot; to have India, you think that you might have learned something about spices. All you got out of that era was vinegar. Come on, go through the Chunnel to France and start learning how to cook. If we take any criticism about our food it will have to come from France. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;10.The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually&lt;br /&gt;beer at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as&lt;br /&gt;beer, and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred&lt;br /&gt;to as Lager. South African beer is also acceptable as they are pound for&lt;br /&gt;pound the greatest sporting nation on earth and it can only be due to the&lt;br /&gt;beer. They are also part of the British Commonwealth - see what it did for&lt;br /&gt;them.&lt;br /&gt;American brands will be referred to as Near-Frozen Gnat&amp;#39;s Urine, so that&lt;br /&gt;all can be sold without risk of further confusion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Ok, Our beer sucks but if we are going to take criticism about it, Germany will have to do it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;11.Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as good&lt;br /&gt;guys. Hollywood will also be required to cast English actors to play English&lt;br /&gt;characters. Watching Andie MacDowell attempt English dialogue in &amp;quot;Four&lt;br /&gt;Weddings and a Funeral&amp;quot; was an experience akin to having one&amp;#39;s ears removed&lt;br /&gt;with a cheese grater.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Stick to Documentaries, your country is incapable of producing entertainment movies. You don&amp;#39;t laugh, you don&amp;#39;t cry, you don&amp;#39;t feel, and you think that you can entertain a populace. It would be &amp;quot;akin&amp;quot; to watching black and white, silent movies. Again, go to France, India, Germany, even Japan.&amp;nbsp; But in the end, I think it would be best if you just make Documentaries. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;12.You will cease playing American football. There is only one kind of&lt;br /&gt;proper football; you call it soccer. Those of you brave enough will, in&lt;br /&gt;time, be allowed to play rugby (which has some similarities to American&lt;br /&gt;football, but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or&lt;br /&gt;wearing full kevlar body armour like a bunch of nancies). Don&amp;#39;t try rugby -&lt;br /&gt;the South Africans and Kiwis will thrash you, like they regularly thrash us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;You just don&amp;#39;t get entertainment. Yep, we Americans are going to go nuts over watching guys in shorts run around the field for 3 hours and maybe make a score. There might even be an upset match of 2-1. The excitement of it all has me watering at the mouth. And when we are done being thrilled by the game we can switch the channel to watch a bunch of guys piled on top of each other move around on the ground for another three hours.&amp;nbsp; Look up sarcasm in the Oxford English dictionary.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Don&amp;#39;t worry though, an american can fix it. In soccer, you need to have more excitement. Switch the goalie to a girl and after each successful goal, that goalie must remove an article of clothing. No more of those 1-0 matches, from my figuring almost all matches will be, 10-9 or 10-8. Rugby is easy, just switch to girls, we will never turn the channel. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;13.Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host&lt;br /&gt;an event called the World Series for a game which is not played outside of&lt;br /&gt;America. Since only 2.1% of you are aware there is a world beyond your&lt;br /&gt;borders, your error is under standable. You will learn cricket, and we will&lt;br /&gt;let you face the South Africans first to take the sting out of their&lt;br /&gt;deliveries.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;First get your facts straight, if you learned to do proper research, you would know that Toronto, as in the Toronto Blue Jays, is not with in our countries borders.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Second, of course we know their is a world outside of our borders, we supply it with food, we keep it employed by buying its products, and we get a laugh at them when they try and criticize us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;14.You must tell us who killed JFK. It&amp;#39;s been driving us mad.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Hell, we thought you did it. Come on you can tell us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;15.An internal revenue agent (i.e. tax collector) from Her Majesty&amp;#39;s&lt;br /&gt;Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all monies&lt;br /&gt;due (backdated to 1776).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Ok, but you must pay all our Social Security benefits, Welfare Benefits, Wic Benefits, and government subsidies back dated to 1776. Want to call that one even? Else, you might owe us some money. We will send the lawyers over.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;16.Daily Tea Time begins promptly at 4 pm with proper cups, with saucers,&lt;br /&gt;and never mugs, with high quality biscuits (cookies) and cakes; plus&lt;br /&gt;strawberries (with cream) when in season.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Ok that confirms it. You are pansies. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;God Save the Queen!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; If you weren&amp;#39;t paying attention, according to you, God is the Queen. Let her save herself. But if she did that you would have to call her an American.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;PS: Go ahead and share this with your friends in the USA (those with a good&lt;br /&gt;sense of humour and NOT humor.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;â¢&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;PS. Go ahead and share this with your friends in the UK (those with a good sense of humor. oops my mistake, there are none) I would go on but, &amp;quot;You Know&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Football / Ice hockey results and scores: How to write and talk</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/FootballHockeyResultsScoresWrite-Talk/gzhzq/post.htm#527815</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 20:04:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:527815</guid><dc:creator>EagerSeeker</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Old Man Gordon&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;p&gt;Optilang-&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Is that how it is said on sportscasts in England?&amp;nbsp; The team uses a plural verb, even if the noun (England/Manchester United/etc.) is singular?&amp;nbsp; In the US, we&amp;#39;d use the plural only when talking about the team name which is usually plural, eg The Yakees are losing./ New York is losing.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;It gets confusing with the modern innovation of uncountable team names.&amp;nbsp; The Detroit Shock is winning (are winning?).&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;That is interesting indeed and I agree with you&amp;nbsp;Old Man&amp;nbsp;Gordon.&amp;nbsp;I am from Finland and&amp;nbsp;according to my Finnish-English dictionary I should say &amp;quot;Finland is leading 2-0&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp;without using&amp;nbsp;the plural verb and&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;The Finns are leading 2-0&amp;quot; when using&amp;nbsp;a plural expression. But I guess this is just&amp;nbsp;a difference between British and American English.&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Football / Ice hockey results and scores: How to write and talk</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/FootballHockeyResultsScoresWrite-Talk/gzhvq/post.htm#527798</link><pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 18:28:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:527798</guid><dc:creator>Old Man Gordon</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Optilang-&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is that how it is said on sportscasts in England?&amp;nbsp; The team uses a plural verb, even if the noun (England/Manchester United/etc.) is singular?&amp;nbsp; In the US, we&amp;#39;d use the plural only when talking about the team name which is usually plural, eg The Yakees are losing./ New York is losing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It gets confusing with the modern innovation of uncountable team names.&amp;nbsp; The Detroit Shock is winning (are winning?).&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: English from evolution perspective</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/EnglishEvolutionPerspective/zpkdz/post.htm#494246</link><pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 04:38:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:494246</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>hello it should be in this format,

I begin to realize that natural language or human language is not just 
governed by a couples of rules or grammars, but as well as naturally 
formed rules through a period of time, cultures influences, regions 
and frequency of it being used. 

Compound noun (solid form, hypernated form, open form) 
president of Indonesia 
today&amp;#39;s date 
apple juice 
house-builder 
football, goalkeeper, blackboard, housewife, wallpaper 

Those are adjectival noun, where noun act as an adjective. The 
arrangement(top to bottom) is in the order of ascending solid 
establishment. For example the &amp;quot;football&amp;quot; compound noun is more well- 
established than &amp;quot;apple juice&amp;quot;. Maybe a few decades later people would 
say &amp;quot;Indonesia president&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;today date&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;apple-juice&amp;quot;, 
&amp;quot;housebuilder&amp;quot;. The meaning of noun-noun compound is always unique or 
different from its constituent words. Hence it might be difficult to 
build the overall meaning of the compound noun from its constituent 
nouns, or with compositional semantic method. I am thinking, to 
universalize the compound noun and it would be much simpler for NLP 
process, so how about transforming all those non-solid compound noun 
to the solid form ? such as 

Indonesiapresident 
todaydate 
applejuice 
housebuilder 

Any ideas, opinious in general way ? Thanks.</description></item><item><title>English from evolution perspective</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/EnglishEvolutionPerspective/zpjnj/post.htm</link><pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:33:51 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:494131</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>I begin to realize that natural language or human language is not just governed by a couples of rules or grammars, but as well as naturally formed rules through a historical period of time, cultures influences, regions and frequency of it being used.

Compound noun (solid form, hypernated form, open form)
president of Indonesia
today&amp;#39;s date
apple juice
house-builder
football, goalkeeper, blackboard, housewife, wallpaper

Those are adjectival noun, where noun act as an adjective. The arrangement(top to bottom) is in the order of ascending solid establishment. For example the &amp;quot;football&amp;quot; compound noun is more well-established than &amp;quot;apple juice&amp;quot;. Maybe a few decades later people would say &amp;quot;Indonesia president&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;today date&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;apple-juice&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;housebuilder&amp;quot;. The meaning of noun-noun compound is always unique or different from its constituent words. Hence it might be difficult to build the overall meaning of the compound noun from its constituent nouns, or with compositional semantic method. I am thinking, to universalize the compound noun and it would be much simpler for NLP process, so how about transforming all those non-solid compound noun to the solid form ? such as

Indonesiapresident
todaydate
applejuice
housebuilder

Any ideas, opinious in general way ? Thanks.</description></item><item><title>Re: Clause!</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Clause/zgxqh/post.htm#451408</link><pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 21:23:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:451408</guid><dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;I &lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;have&lt;/FONT&gt; a question &lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;about&lt;/FONT&gt; clause&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;s.&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Halema'uma where the legendary Pele, Hawaiian goddess of fire, is said to live. (relative clause, as it defi&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;nes&lt;/FONT&gt; Halema'uma???)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;Yes, it's a relative clause that is adjectival. I assume you know that this whole utterance is not a proper sentence, as it lacks a main clause.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;&lt;img src="/emoticons/emotion-2.gif" alt="Big Smile [:D]" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; I thought Pele was the Brazilian god of football .&lt;img src="/emoticons/emotion-2.gif" alt="Big Smile [:D]" /&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;
&lt;P&gt;and cools where is lands (adver&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;b&lt;/FONT&gt;ial clase, as it &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;modi&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;fies&lt;/FONT&gt; verb&lt;/FONT&gt; cools?) &lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;The front part of this sentence fragment seems to be missing. Can you supply it to us? The words you have given us here make no sense. Are you sure you have no typos? eg should 'is' be 'it'?&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;It was where harmless fairy tale witches threw their eyes of newt and toes of frog.&amp;nbsp; (I have no idea for that one. I doubt its a noun clause!!!)&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt; Why do you doubt that? It seems like a noun clause to me.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;&lt;EM&gt;If you'll permit me to say so, you should get into the habit of checking your spelling after you type a post. &lt;img src="/emoticons/emotion-1.gif" alt="Smile [:)]" /&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;Best wishes, Clive&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: I am having trouble with subject verb agreements</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/HavingTroubleSubjectVerbAgreements/zdxgv/post.htm#436496</link><pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:04:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:436496</guid><dc:creator>Doll</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;So dear why is&amp;nbsp;your answer wrong if you chose leads ?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Anyway,&amp;nbsp;this is a different dituation really.&amp;nbsp;Sometimes you can both use colloective nouns as either singular or plural. For example:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Her parents are&amp;nbsp;bad: Her mom and dad...&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Her parents is bad: WE mean both the mother and father. We don't think them personally.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Turkish football team are playing excellent football.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;All the members in the team are playing excellent football.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Turkish footbal team is playing excellent football.&amp;nbsp; Here we condider team as a unit, as something whole.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>