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Re: What is the difference between respect and aspect as nouns ?

Grammar Geek — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:26:01 GMT

You will find "respect" used like this: in every respect, in this repsect, in respect to ... You will often find it paired with "in."

I repeat the invitation to try to create sentences using these words to see which one seems to make sense.

Re: creams and detergents

Goodman — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:19:09 GMT

Mr. Miclawer,

I wasnât going to expand this pluralization discussion on âcreamsâ and âwinesâ.
But it really bothered the heck out of me for two reasons.
1) I really wanted to find out if I was really blowing hot air on this subject
because of my misunderstanding of this topic, and 2) if there is another side of the usage
I am not aware of.
This is perhaps not relevant to the discussion but to establish my point, I think it needs
to be said. Mrs. Milton whom I learned English from was an excellent English teacher who
also had taught for 5 years at the Beijing University, which is a top University in China, by
invitation of the Government. Many of her students had landed positions working for the
Chinese Government and the U.N. as translators and interpreters. I was very blessed to be
among her students. Most of my English foundation was learned from her. And I was really
surprised to see your examples pluralizing âcreamâ and âwineâ. By your earlier examples, which I
compared with the information found on the WEB, I must ask this question. Am I to understand
that itâs completely grammatical to say in a restaurant âmay I have 2 waters and soups?â. I know
we hear that all the time but if we are discussing the whether a particular usage is grammatically
correct, running into this type of scenario is inevitable. Here are some âsupportsâ you had
asked for which may not may not be validated to your satisfaction. No doubt, you are the
English authority and perhaps possess âsuperiorityâ over many frequented this forum and I donât
mean to sound like challenging your examples, let alone to waste anymore of your time.
Nonetheless, as a serious learner, Iâd owe the real answers to myself and the learners if I just
accepted your answers as given. I may be wrong with my search result and you are correct.
And If so, here is my âadvanced apologyâ.

Nouns only countable nouns can be either singular or plural. ... He had some ice cream on
his face. He had an ice cream. mass. countable ...
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http://ajaja.paradoxinc.org/Basic/Grammar/CountAndNoncount.ht

Liquids: beer, milk, coffee, blood, cream, juice, honey, gasoline, oil, shampoo, soup, tea, water, wine.

Solids and semi-solids: Bread, butter, cheese, ice, ice cream, lettuce, toast, meat, beef, chicken, fish, ham, lamb, pork, chalk, 
copper, cotton, glass, gold, iron, , soap, tin, toothpaste, wood, wool,

http://leo.stcloudstate.edu/grammar/countnon.html

A Revision of the RulesThe exceptions require that the rule for pluralizing be revised: count nouns and nouns used 
in a count sense can be pluralized; noncount nouns and nouns used in a noncount sense cannot.

	Pluralizes with -s	Does not Pluralize
Count Noun	X
Count Use	X
Noncount Noun		X
Noncount Use		X

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Answers (4)

If coffee is an uncountable noun, cream certainly is by common sense. Thus the rule applies.

Â· Answerer 1

Many nouns can be used as countables or uncountables. It depends on whether you are thinking of a substance or
a single serving or object made of the substance. So:

Beer is fattening (uncountable - the substance)
Don't drink more than three beers a day. (Countable - servings)

I love chocolate (uncountable - the substance)
Get me a box of chocolates (countable - individual pieces)

A vase made of blown glass (uncountable - the substance)
A glass of wine (A single piece / artifact)

Coffee gives me indigestion (the substance - uncountable)
I need at least three coffees to wake up on a morning (countable - individual servings)

2 months ago

http://www3.law.cuny.edu/wc/students/multilingual/articles.html

Uncountable nouns often refer to drinks and food, other general substances, or concepts (meat, tea, steel, information, justice):

Examples of Uncountable Nouns in English:

Food and Drink: bacon, beef, beer, bread, butter, cabbage, candy, cauliflower, chicken, chocolate, coffee, corn,
cream, fish, fruit, juice, lettuce, meat, milk, oil, pasta, rice, salt, spinach, sugar, tea, water, whiskey, wine, yogurt.
General Substances: air,cement, clay, coal, copper, dirt, dust, foam, gasoline, gold, ice, leather, paper, petroleum,
plastic, rain, rubber, silver, soap, steel, wood, wool.
Abstract nouns: abandonment, access, adultery, advice, alimony, anger, anguish, arson, authentication, beauty, capacity,
conduct, confidence, courage, deprivation, desperation, discretion, employment, empowerment, evidence, extortion, fortune,
fun, happiness, health, honesty, housing, information, insurance, intelligence, intent, knowledge, land, love, malice, negligence,
poverty, privacy, real estate, sadness, satisfaction, strength, truth, wealth.
Others: biology, clothing, darkness, equipment, furniture, gossip, homework, jewelry, luggage, machinery, mail, money, music,
news, poetry, pollution, research, scenery, traffic, transportation, violence, weather, weight, work.

Some uncountable nouns (except for concepts) can be turned into countable nouns by preposing a phrase to them
(two bottles of wine, a bar of soap, a piece of information, an act of violence, a burst of anger, a piece of evidence).

e.g. The defendant's lawyer is sure the judge will accept new evidence in this case.

vs. The defendant's lawyer is sure the judge will accept three new pieces of evidence in this case.

Some uncountable nouns can be used in the plural, but their meaning changes:

experience / experiences: e.g., He had to rely on experience / I lived unforgettable experiences

Re: grammar help needed

Clive — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:42:40 GMT

Hi,

1) Where I think we need to carve out some territory of definition in practice is to say that proselytism is relating to people different from oneself by using means and methods with ulterior motives in order to convert. But what's happening in secular literature is that it is moving even beyond the ulterior method definition, where some secular specialists on human rights and international law use proselytism to mean "any attempt by religious believers to win converts from other religions or from your religion." And when we see proselytism move into that extensive and broad an expression, it then curtails on the invitation to witness and to make meaning for people, in terms of engaging them around the validity of Christian perspective.

Can an be deleted? No. Kindly check punctuation usage in the above passage and insert punctuation where needed. You might consider not starting sebnetenes with 'But' and 'And'. Could you perhaps say 'However' and 'Moreover'?

(2) They have a vision for what I would call “soul care,” without the same vision and commitment to social care. May I suggest to us that mature evangelists have discerning minds that believe in the whole counsel of God? May I suggest to us, as you listen to that definition, that evangelists are not restricted to religion?

May I suggest to us, as we think about engagement, can we first of all give permission and take permission. That is to say, people have the right to self-define. I also need to take the responsibility to self-define.

Is the usage " May I suggest to us" ok? Please check It seems a bit oddd to say 'us' here. Why not just say 'May I suggest'?

(3) We have surrendered to life-denying violence that simply incites more deadly and devastating violence.

Is the usage of " We have surrender to" ok? Please check.

(4) Half of them were Muslim and half of them were Christian. This is OK, because the two words are used as adjectives.

Should the above sentence have a plural usage "Half of them were Muslims and half of them were Christians." This is also OK, but the two words are nouns.

(5) We need more modeling of how to deal with diversity in positive ways.

Can of be replaced with on? Please check. Either is acceptable.

(6) One of my appeals in the Canadian context has been that, if we had been better at dealing with diversity between us as Christians in this country, we would be relating to cultural diversity in a lot more positively today than we are at this point.

Is the in insertion ok? Please check. No, you need to remove it.

Best wishes, Clive

Re: using a noun generally

Anonymous — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:43:57 GMT

In the preceding post of yours, you said:

Please consider my comments, and try again if you want to.

Thank you for your kind invitation for another try and I am going to follow through with your invitation.

I was doing my own study on the matter by checking these forums' old posts and I think I saw Yankee having written something like this:

I had pizza for dinner. -- If I understood your explanations correctly, it is saying, "I had pizza, not an actual pizza in a restaurant setting that is piping hot and full of delectible toppings, but a 'non-substance' but 'general-reference' pizza." What I can think of it is when I am dreaming, I might have this feeling, "Umm, I wish I can have pizza for three days in a row." -- here, it is a wish with no physical substance (of a pizza) in mind. Like a person seeing a picture of a pizza and dreaming, "Umm, I wish I can have pizza for dinner." -- he cannot smell or see a pizza with his eyes but based on what he knows a pizza to be, he wishes for this concept-based pizza.

Like saying, "I had salad for dinner," here, he is not making this statement without any specific bowl of salad in mind but making a concept-based reference. Had he said, "I had a salad for dinner," it could be understood as having ate an actual bowl of salad in a restaurant setting with his choices of fruit and vegetables and sauce.

Going back to 'pizza', I like to have salami and sausage on mine, and withstanding that interest of mine, I tried to find definitions for them and came up with these (Mind you both are variable nouns, as far as I know):

1. sausage: A sausage consists of minced meat mixed with ...

2. salami: Salami is a type of sausage that is ...

I think you would agree the definition of salami is based on a general or concept-based reference to what an actual salami is; whereas, the definition of sausage is based on a reference to an actual sausage, a tube-shaped form of mixed meat, that will very well taste good on a pizza.

Re: turn down

Cool Breeze — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:51:05 GMT

Anonymous wrote:
1.'She asked him to leave, but he declined.'
Is 'declined' appropriate in the sentence?

I see nothing wrong with it.

deÂ·cline, v., -clined, -clinÂ·ing, n.
âv.t.
1.    to withhold or deny consent to do, enter into or upon, etc.; refuse: He declined to say more about it.
2.    to express inability or reluctance to accept; refuse with courtesy: to decline an invitation; to decline an offer.
3.    to cause to slope or incline downward.
4.    Gram.
    a. to inflect (a noun, pronoun, or adjective), as Latin puella, declined puella, puellae, puellae, puellam, puella in the five cases of the singular.
    b. to recite or display all or some subset of the inflected forms of a noun, pronoun, or adjective in a fixed order.
âv.i.
5. to express courteous refusal; refuse: We sent him an invitation but he declined.
6.    to bend or slant down; slope downward; descend: The hill declines to the lake.
7.    (of pathways, routes, objects, etc.) to follow a downward course or path: The sun declined in the skies.
8.    to draw toward the close, as the day.
9.    to fail in strength, vigor, character, value, etc.; deteriorate.
10.    to fail or dwindle; sink or fade away: to decline in popularity.
11.    to descend, as to an unworthy level; stoop.
12.    Gram. to be characterized by declension.
ân.
13.    a downward slope; declivity.
14.    a downward movement, as of prices or population; diminution: a decline in the stock market.
15.    a failing or gradual loss, as in strength, character, power, or value; deterioration: the decline of the Roman Empire.
16.    a gradual deterioration of the physical powers, as in later life or in disease: After his seventieth birthday he went into a decline.
17.    progress downward or toward the close, as of the sun or the day.
18.    the later years or last part: He became an editor in the decline of his life.

REFUSE, DECLINE, REJECT, SPURN all imply nonacceptance of something. To DECLINE is milder and more courteous than to REFUSE, which is direct and often emphatic in expressing determination not to accept what is offered or proposed: to refuse a bribe; to decline an invitation.

RHUD

CB

Re: invite / invitation

Clive — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 06:01:58 GMT

Hi,

It used to be that the word âinviteâ was used as a verb while âinvitationâ was the noun. But now the word âinviteâ is often used as a noun as well, e.g. âWe will send you the invite to the show.â Is this correct? No, I'd call this regional slang.

Clive

invite / invitation

Vincent Teo — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:42:25 GMT

Re: base for this usage

Anonymous — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 23:47:43 GMT

Thank you for your explanation and invitation to present some more example sentences. I cannot think of them right now but I am sure some will be presented in the future.

Your last example sentence, "English people don't like to eat horse," is what likely to raised some doubt as to its valid usage by some people who are not yet in possession of good knowledge on the subject.

Most people would be more inclined to write "English people don't like to eat horse meat" and that would seem reasonable to most people.

Why 'eat horse' and not 'eat horse meat'? I am sure both are acceptable, but why a person would resort to using an abtract form of noun, which I think is what is being done or has been done depending on how you look at the situation?

Re: it/ them

Bokeh — Fri, 08 Jun 2007 10:54:19 GMT

Nona The Brit wrote:
In British English nouns such as 'team' can be treated as either plural or singular.

Nona, I think this is more a question of your ear being accustomed to this type of construction rather than it being good grammar. To me, also a British native, it is unacceptable.

Nona The Brit wrote:
Wonderland Park's gardening team will offer you special growing tips. As above, the emphasis is now on who will be receiving the tips. If you come along you can get this advice. This encourages the individual receiving the invitation to attend, makes it more personal. This is how you would phrase it to make the advertising/invitations more effective.

I disagree! Every pronoun requires an antecedent and the antecedent "Fun Club members" relates to the pronoun "them", not "you". Also,this notion forces the concept that every reader must be one of the "Fun Club members".

Re: it/ them

nona the brit — Fri, 08 Jun 2007 10:21:55 GMT

They are all correct but you need to look at the meaning of the sentence in slightly different ways.

Wonderland Park's gardening team will offer its special growing tips. The gardening team will share its knowledge on growing plants.

Wonderland Park's gardening team will offer their special growing tips. Same meaning as above but concentrating on the individuals making up the team rather than the team as a whole. In British English nouns such as 'team' can be treated as either plural or singular. The team is going to...or (the members of) The team are going to...

Wonderland Park's gardening team will offer them special growing tips. This knowlege will be offered to all the fan club members who come along. The emphasis has shifted from who is offering the tips to who will be receiving them. IT's rather dispassionate though, more like a report on the event.

Wonderland Park's gardening team will offer you special growing tips. As above, the emphasis is now on who will be receiving the tips. If you come along you can get this advice. This encourages the individual receiving the invitation to attend, makes it more personal. This is how you would phrase it to make the advertising/invitations more effective.

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Re: What is the difference between respect and aspect as nouns ?

Re: creams and detergents

Mr. Miclawer,

Nouns only countable nouns can be either singular or plural. ... He had some ice cream on his face. He had an ice cream. mass. countable ...www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/dick/tta/wc/nouns.htm - 21k - Cached - Similar pages

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Answers (4)

Re: grammar help needed

Re: using a noun generally

Re: turn down

Re: invite / invitation

invite / invitation

Re: base for this usage

Re: it/ them

Re: it/ them

Nouns only countable nouns can be either singular or plural. ... He had some ice cream on
his face. He had an ice cream. mass. countable ...
www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/dick/tta/wc/nouns.htm - 21k - Cached - Similar pages