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Re: Questions on sentences

Clive — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:03:20 GMT

Hi,
1. Is the underlined part a noun? It's a noun phrase, ie a phrase that gives more information about the noun 'people'.
Is there possibly an ellipted 'to' at work? Yes, you could say 'to make people proud . . . '
What she has done is make people proud of who (whom??) they are. Say 'who'.

2. Can we have an adjective act as a noun? Please see the underlined part
If there should be someone reading this who realize ... that this wonderful of contracts has not been made ... This sentence as written is not grammatical. Did you type it correctly?

3. Is this construction valid and correct? Yes. It's quite literary in style.
Is the word 'power' the subject here? Yes.
To every poor slave of self who really desires it, is given the power to respond in obedience to our Lord ...

Best wishes, Clive

Re: who and whom: Function of formal vs. informal

Mister Micawber — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:40:06 GMT

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Yes, whom is being replaced by who in these situations (i.e. where the preposition is separated from the pronoun). I don't know to whom to turn still requires the formal whom.

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Questions on sentences

Anonymous — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:34:17 GMT

Hi,

1. Is the underlined part a noun? Is there possibly an ellipted 'to' at work?
What she has done is make people proud of who (whom??) they are.

2. Can we have an adjective act as a noun? Please see the underlined part
If there should be someone reading this who realize ... that this wonderful of contracts has not been made ...

3. Is this construction valid and correct? Is the word 'power' the subject here?
To every poor slave of self who really desires it, is given the power to respond in obedience to our Lord ...

I MADE AN EXERCISE BUT I'M NOT SURE WITH ANSWERS, CAN ANYONE CHECK IT?

lucaslucas — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:49:05 GMT

Structure reconstruction. ( dots mean that this part of sentence is not changed)

Reconstruct the following sentences (or pairs of sentences) in such a way that they are as similar as possible in meaning to the ones printed before them. Make all necessary alteraction. Use the info provided in the brackets.

1. Freda phoned Jack last night. (cleft sentence with emphasis on last night)

It was last night that Freda phoned Jack.

2. We didnât complain to the waiter about the food because we didnât want to embarrass our friends. (adverbial clause with so as)

We didn't ........... waiter so as not to embarass......

3. There are difficulties that must be surmounted before any agreement can be reached. ( non-finite clause)

There are difficulties to be surmounted.............

4. He didnât even phone to let me know he was not coming. This made me very angry. ( noun clause)

The fact that he didn't........ coming made me very angry.

5. We came within sight of Everest. Its summit has attracted so many climbers. ( relative clause)

We...... Everest, whose.....

6. The railway attendant assumes the train has been running too slow for the last 20 minutes. ( non-finite in passive structure)

this i just dont know how to change :/ maybe: That the train had been running too slow for the previous 20 minutes the railway attendant assumed.

7. A group of MPâs has advocated that the Government should set up a special commission of inquiry. ( gerundial structure)

A group.................Government setting up..........

8. He is to do the task. I recommend it. (subjunctive)

I recommend he to do the task.

9. Several people went to Paris this spring. None of them complained about the hotel. ( relative clause)

Several people, none of whom......hotel, went............spring

10. He tore open the letter and found a cheque for Å100 in it. (non-finite clause)

He .. letter finding..

11. What if you lose the ticket you have. Have you got enough money to buy another one? (suppose)

idk here but maybe: Suppose that you lose the ticket, have you got enough money to buy another one?

12. She is only crying because some soap went into her eye while her mother was washing her hair. ( passive voice)

here idk also but lets try: She was only crying because some soap went into her eye when her hair was being washed.

13. Penicillin was discovered in 1928. It helped to save many lives in World War II. (conditional- use but for)

i bet im wrong here: But for penicilin discovery in 1928 many lives would not have been saved in WWII.

14. We never thought he was that sort of fellow. (emphasis)

he i have serious doubts also: That he that sort of fellow was we never thought.

15. What a tasty cake this is! My neighbours commented. (reported speech)

My neighbours commented that what a tasty cake that was.

16. He lost two games early in the tournament. Despite this, however, he managed to carry off the championshim. ( co0ordinate relative clause)

He lost..tournament, despite which, however, he..

CAN YOU PLEASE CHECK MY ANSWERS?

Re: Is it compulsory to use articles, a, an, and the, with only countable nouns?

Ant_222 — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:39:24 GMT

Jackson6612
Let me rephrase it again, even indefinite article the is used with countable nouns or the nouns which are acting as counting nouns.

What's "indefinite article the"?

Jackson6612
So it means if some non-countable noun is acting as a countable noun then it has to be an uncountable because there are two main types of nouns: countable and uncountable.

Sure. Isn't it a tautology? Dictionaries describe "happiness" as an uncountable noun, but in specific contexts (like GG's example) it may be used as a countable noun, which I have called playing a "countable" role, or, to be more correct, the role of a countable noun. So, what the dictionaries say doesn't always 100% correspond to reality.

Jackson6612
You said, pour the water onto the tea. Does that mean though water is an uncountable noun but in that particular example it is working as a countable noun?

Actually I used that example to show you a usage of an uncountable noun as an uncountable noun. "The" "defines" "water". It indicates that it is not any water, but that very water that has just been boiled. Water is still uncountable here, although it is "restricted" (specific).

Jackson6612
You said, it denotes a specific instance of that general category. I would have written: ...it denotes a specific type/kind/sort of that general category at some particular time. Would that also mean the same thing?

Well, I think it is a matter of one's Weltanschauung, and personally I prefer "instance" because, as distinct from "type", which, as any unit of classification, is abstract by nature, is real to the same extent as that which it has been derived from:

A is a type/sort of B â here A is not as real as B,

A is an instance of B â A is not less real (material) than B

Jackson6612
In a good detergent, a is standing along a countable noun but detergent in itself is not a countable noun. Then, what does make it a countable noun in that particular sentence?

At last, you have asked a specific question. By "detergent" the speaker didnt' mean the "matter" or "substance" itself, but, rather, a type or sort (or brand) of it. "Tide" is one detergent, and "Surf" is another. In this sense, they are countable.

Jackson6612
Can you, please, provide me some example sentences in which there is no need to use articles with certain countable/uncountable nouns with whom articles would be used in other sentences.

Countable: http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyNoArticleHere/ggjmr/post.htm

As for uncountable, you have already seen them: "Water boils at 100 centigrades (at the "standard" atmospheric pressure)" â here "water" refers to the verty substance, and the sentence is true for all water in the world.

Re: Is it compulsory to use articles, a, an, and the, with only countable nouns?

Jackson6612 — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:36:54 GMT

Ant_222
Jackson6612
Ant, you mean that even article the is used with countable nouns or the nouns which are acting as countable nouns.

Yes, but it can be used with uncountable nouns as well. Countable (along the lines of GG's example): "The happiness that he had now was something he had never experiences before".

Uncountable: "Boil a litre of water, put 25 g of tea into an earthenware pot, pour the water onto the tea".

Jackson6612
And would you please give a short explanation of the underlined part

When you specify the properties of something referred to by a noun that usually has an abstract, categorical or very general meaning, that automatically changes the meaning of it so that it denotes a specific instance of that general category. For example, in GG's sentence, instead of the general happiness you have a specific happiness, experienced by a specific person.

Hi Ant,

In one of the last posts you said: What I wanted to say is, whenever the indefinite article is used, the following noun is either countable or plays a "countable" role.

Question 1:
Emphasis is on the whenever. This is the same thing I said above. Let me rephrase it again, even indefinite article the is used with countable nouns or the nouns which are acting as counting nouns. So it means if some non-countable noun is acting as a countable noun then it has to be an uncountable because there are two main types of nouns: countable and uncountable. You said, pour the water onto the tea. Does that mean though water is an uncountable noun but in that particular example it is working as a countable noun?

Question 2:
You said, it denotes a specific instance of that general category. I would have written: ...it denotes a specific type/kind/sort of that general category at some particular time. Would that also mean the same thing?

Question 3:
Example: Wash it in hot water with a good detergent...
In a good detergent, a is standing along a countable noun but detergent in itself is not a countable noun. Then, what does make it a countable noun in that particular sentence?

Question 4:
Can you, please, provide me some example sentences in which there is no need to use articles with certain countable/uncountable nouns with whom articles would be used in other sentences.

Thank you for helping so patiently.

can u guys help me with it? can you check my answers? please

lucaslucas — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:22:10 GMT

I tried to solve this lil test but i couldnt figure out all answers. Would you be so kind and help me with it? I have no answer key for it so I can't compare my answers with correct ones and im not sure of my answers :( I hope that u'll find some time to help :)

read the following text and cross out or circle unnecessary words. In each line there is one such word.

The prince of Walesâs determination to give up lunch for Lent shows out an admirable out

strength of good will, but is physiologically unsound. The metabolism of humans has has

evolved round so that we are omnivorous. It may sound unlikely, but we have a digestive round

system more closely related one to that of rats and pigs than carnivorous lions and one

wolves. People should have a hard hearty breakfast containing plenty of complex starches, hard

such as a porridge and cereals, together with some protein but not too much fat a

or highly refined sugar adding. Lunch is the safest meal in which to take the daily to?

allowance of fats and fruit juices. Most people need it to eat at midday because without it

sustenance at that short time even the most even-tempered can become difficult and even

demanding task. The balance is difficult â no lunch and the mood becomes vulnerable but the? ( idk which one, mayb e its not the :/)

too much heavy a lunch will induce deep somnolence a couple of hours later. When you 1st a

are starving as the metabolism slows down and the next meal is therefore treated by the as

body as though every other calorie could be life-saving and thatâs why fat is stored up. though

The old my advice to have a good, Followed in due course by light lunch and my

supper, is no better both for the psyche and physique than eating once a day like a tiger. no

Identify and correct mistakes. ( some sentences are correct , 5 if i remember well )

He a)warned us b)not to go on feet across the park alone c)as people d)had been

mugged there. b- by foot

It a)must be used in b)a well-ventilated room. C) Used otherwise it d)could be harmful. b- just cross out a

3. Warships also served as cargo a)ship until b)the 1600âs when they c)took on a d)more specialized military role. a- ships

4. The works a)of Thomas Eakins, an American b)realist of the 1800âs were notable for c)its vitality and painstaking detail. correct?

5. Princess Diana a)would have liked to b)have been there but she c)wasnât able to come d)to Windsor. corect?

6. a)A mecca for b)nature watchers, this bay contains a c)two-miles stretch of beach literally d)covered in animals and birds. c- two-mile

7. When a client a)approaches the company, whether he b)be a King or an ordinary member of the public, the c)companyâs team of designers d)sets to work. b- is

8. a)Fearing that the police b)wouldnât recognize him he never c)went out d)in daylight. b- would

9. a)Not knowing the language and b)having not friends in the town, he c)found it hard to give up d)work

b- not having

10. The day a) being fine b)Tom and I decided c)to go d)swimming.

correct?

11. He was a)arousing b)by the crash and c)client d)to his feet. a- aroused

12. a)Having bitten twice, the postman refused b)to deliver our letters c)unless we chained our dog d)up

a- having been bitten

13. You donât care a)about science fiction, b)do you? c)Oh yes, I like d)it.

correct?

14. The kidnappers a)threatened him b)to kill his daughter if he c)didnât pay the ransom d)at once.

a- threatened( just w/o him)

15. I said that if he a)could lend me b)the money I c)neednât go to d)the bank.

correct?

Structure reconstruction. ( dots mean that this part of sentence is not changed)

Freda phoned Jack last night. (cleft sentence with emphasis on last nigh)

It was last night that Freda phoned Jack.

We didnât complain to the waiter about the food because we didnât want to embarrass our friends. (adverbial clause with so as)

We.........food so as not to embarass............

3. There are difficulties that must be surmounted before any agreement can be reached. ( non-finite clause)

There are difficulties to be surmounted.............

He didnât even phone to let me know he was not coming. This made me very angry. ( noun clause)

The fact that he didn't........ coming made me very angry.

We came within sight of Everest. Its summit has attracted so many climbers. ( relative clause)

We...... Everest, whose.....

The railway attendant assumes the train has been running too slow for the last 20 minutes. ( non-finite in passive structure)

this i just dont know how to change :/ maybe: That the train had been running too slow for the previous 20 minutes the railway attendant assumed.

A group of MPâs has advocated that the Government should set up a special commission of inquiry. ( gerundial structure)

A group.................Government setting up..........

He is to do the task. I recommend it. (subjunctive)

I recommend he to do the task.

Several people went to Paris this spring. None of them complained about the hotel. ( relative clause)

Several people, none of whom......hotel, went............spring

10. He tore open the letter and found a cheque for Å100 in it. (non0finite clause)

He ..... letter finding.....

11. What if you lose the ticket you have. Have you got enough money to buy another one? (suppose)

idk here but maybe: Suppose that you lose the ticket, have you got enough money to buy another one?

12. She is only crying because some soap went into her eye while her mother was washing her hair. ( passive voice)

here idk also but lets try: She was only crying because some soap went into her eye when her hair was being washed.

13. Penicillin was discovered in 1928. It helped to save many lives in World War II. (conditional- use but for)

i bet im wrong here: But for penicilin discovery in 1928 many lives would not have been saved in WWII.

14. We never thought he was that sort of fellow. (emphasis)

he i have serious doubts also: That he that sort of fellow was we never thought.

What a tasty cake this is! My neighbours commented. (reported speech)

My neighbours commented that what a tasty cake that was.

He lost two games early in the tournament. Despite this, however, he managed to carry off the championshim. ( co0ordinate relative clause)

He lost.........tournament, despite which, however, he.............

Transformations. Rewrite each sentence starting as shown so that the meaning stays the same. Beginnings are provided.

Oliver asked Jenny why she hadnât taken part in the race the previsions day.

âWhyâ¦..haven't you taken part in the race yesterday â Oliver asked Jenny.

But for Helen, the play would be a flep.

Wereâ¦.The play be a flop if not Helen.

We still donât know what has happened to all the missing passengers.

We still have not accountedâ¦what to all the missing passengers has happened.

âShall I carry that bag for you, John?â said Paul.

Paulineâ¦.asked John if he should carry that bag for her.

It is not always easy to overcome difficulties.

Toâ¦overcome difficulties is not always easy

Lobster is a new experience for me.

Itâs the firstâ¦time I have a lobster.

Mary spends all her money on sweets, which is unwise.

Itâs â¦.unwise for Mary to spend all her money on sweets.

Although he studied hard, he failed the exam.

In spiteâ¦of his studying hard, he failed the exam.

We little understand the problem he has had.

Littleâ¦did we understand the problem he has had.

He always cheats in examinations which is dishonest.

Howâ¦he always cheats on examinations is dishonest.

Although it is sunny today, it may still rain tomorrow.

Sunnyâ¦as today is it may still rain tomorrow.

I met Mary as soon as I left home.

I had no soonerâ¦left home than I met mary.

His words may be sincere. However, I donât think he is telling whole truth.

Hovewerâ¦sincere his words may be, i don't think....

Her leg hurt so much that she fainted.

Suchâ¦did her leg hurt that she fainted.

You mustnât let strangers in when you are alone.

On noâ¦account must you let strangers when you are alone.

A single could appeared in the sky.

Inâ¦the sky should a single appear.

If you tell her my secret, Ill never speak to you again.

Tellâ¦her my secret and I'll never speak to you again.

The house is too big for me to live there on my own.

It is tooâ¦.big a house to live on my own.

Although I tried very hard I couldnât make them see my point of view.

No matterâ¦.how hard did i try I couldn't make them see my point of view.

I Believed you were the murderer because of this clue.

This clue ledâ¦..me to the believing that you were the murderer.

Joe doesnât like it when people treat him like a child.

Joe resentsâ¦ being treated like a child.

I wish I hadnât heard that.

Iâd rather youâ¦..did not say that.

May the President live a long time.

Longâ¦live the president

The Inspector Collins said they believed John was living in Malta at that time.

here idk the beggining because of poor copy, coz i mentioned before that Ive retyped all on my laptop, but i think it should start from John.... is believed to live in Malta at that time. i bet I messed sth up.

Re: Whom or Who?

jazzmaster — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 03:41:45 GMT

CalifJim
You need who. They wish that their children (subject of clause) would grow up ...
who is the subject form, not whom.
... of their children who (they wish) would grow up ...
CJ

Thanks CJ.
I thought about that. But I figured otherwise: "they (the parents) wish that their children would grow up" -> "the parents wish that the children (object of the clause) would grow up".

I pulled a couple of sentences from a dictionary:

1. The man whom you just met is a detective.
2. I received a gift from a girl whom I thought did not like me.

So they take "whom" because the relative pronoun must refer to the object of 1. you met, 2. I thought did not like me, which are "the man" and "a girl" respectively. Therefore object form "whom" is more suitable than subject form "who".

Man, these are hard to explain with words ...

jm

Whom or Who?

jazzmaster — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 02:24:10 GMT

I need your opinion on the usage of the relative pronoun "whom" in this sentence.

Or should it be "who" instead? Is this sentence correct in general? :

Parents are feeling responsible for the bad behaviors of their children whom they wish would grow up for the better later.

(The pronoun "they" right after "whom" of course refers to "the parents".)

Thanks for your input.

Re: Whom and Who

Mister Micawber — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 06:29:36 GMT

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Hello, yhaj-- and welcome to English Forums. Your sentence should read:

I love Eliza, who parked cars in the parking lot.

Who is the pronoun used for subjects, and here who is the subject for parked.