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Re: Separable & Inseparable Phrasal Verbs

CalifJim — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:51:44 GMT

This Post:256204 may or may not be useful, as it is on a similar topic, but not the exact same one.
Check it out, noting later in the same thread:

"There are a number of particles (up, down, in, out, on, off, away, back) which should make us very suspicious that we are dealing with a separable phrasal verb, and a number of them (with, without, by, for, at, across, of, from, to, into) which almost certainly indicate a prepositional verb."

CJ

Re: Two grammar questions...

CalifJim — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 08:19:08 GMT

You should read this Post:256204. Here is just a part of it:

There are a number of particles (up, down, in, out, on, off, away, back) which should make us very suspicious that we are dealing with a separable phrasal verb, and a number of them (with, without, by, for, at, across, of, from, to, into) which almost certainly indicate a prepositional verb. But there are some strange cases!
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<>a. Pick up it (INCORRECT) Phrasal verb pick up. Object it must precede up.
b. Pick it up (correct)
c. Pick up the phone (correct)
d. Pick the phone up (correct)

Example two:

<>e. Looking at it (correct)
f. Looking it at (INCORRECT) Prepositional verb look at. Object it must follow at.
g. James handed in the report (the report is "it") (correct)
h. James handed it in (it is "the report") (correct)

i. James handed in it. (INCORRECT) Phrasal verb hand in. Object it must precede in.

CJ

Re: Phrasal verbs

CalifJim — Mon, 15 Jan 2007 03:33:43 GMT

How to generalize?

In the intransitive case there's no choice about placement of the object because there is no object.
In the transitive case there are three correct ways to structure the words.

pick up the pencil; pick the pencil up; pick it up
throw out the trash; throw the trash out; throw it out

Basically, the intransitives are inseparable and are prepositional verbs; the transitives are separable and are true phrasal verbs.

You might be interested in this. Post:256515

Note in particular:

There are a number of particles (up, down, in, out, on, off, away, back) which should make us very suspicious that we are dealing with a separable phrasal verb, and a number of them (with, without, by, for, at, across, of, from, to, into) which almost certainly indicate a prepositional verb.

Re: Differ between a preposition and an adverb in a phrasal verb.

CalifJim — Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:15:17 GMT

They set a riot off seems acceptable, even though our preference seems to be for They set off a riot. (Note the article.) Here it is the selectional criteria that may be interfering. Substitute bomb for riot, and both They set off a bomb and They set a bomb off are fine, neither seeming to be necessarily much preferred over the other. In many cases, however, there is a preferred word order even when two different possibilities are present.

It is almost the mark of a truly phrasal verb (transitive) that it is separable.
It is almost the mark of a truly prepositional verb that it is inseparable.

Yet, there are indeterminate, shadowy cases - cases where the verb seems more phrasal (and idiomatic) than prepositional and yet is inseparable and acts in some ways like a prepositional verb.

How did he come by that fortune? How did he come by it? *How did he come it by?

There are a number of particles (up, down, in, out, on, off, away, back) which should make us very suspicious that we are dealing with a separable phrasal verb, and a number of them (with, without, by, for, at, across, of, from, to, into) which almost certainly indicate a prepositional verb. But there are some strange cases!

CJ

Re: Differ between a preposition and an adverb in a phrasal verb.

CalifJim — Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:12:59 GMT

Re: Need help

Teacher Eric — Thu, 16 Dec 2004 20:13:12 GMT

1. "Worse" is the comparative of "bad" while "worst" is the superlative.

bad-worse-the worst

His new movie is worse than his last.
Your cooking is getting worse! (compared to before)
Among his movies, the newest one is the worst.
This is the worst of all!

2. I'm reproducing Taiwandave's post in its entirety. The article mainly reflects British English usage. As follows:

Rules for using hyphens
Posted: 24 Jun 2004 01:11 AM
There have been a number of recent questions concerning when to use hypens. The following is an excerpt from The Economist magazine's style guide.

Â© The Economist Newspaper Limited 2004

Use hyphens for:

1. FRACTIONS (whether nouns or adjectives): two-thirds, four-fifths, one-sixth, etc.

2. MOST WORDS THAT BEGIN with anti, non and neo. Thus anti-aircraft, anti-fascist, anti-submarine (but antibiotic, anticlimax, antidote, antiseptic, antitrust); non-combatant, non-existent, non-payment, non-violent (but nonaligned, nonconformist, nonplussed, nonstop); neo-conservative, neo-liberal (but neoclassicism, neolithic, neologism).

Words beginning Euro should also be hyphenated, except Europhile, Europhobe and Eurosceptic; euro zone and euro area.

Some words that become unmanageably long with the addition of a prefix. Thus under-secretary and inter-governmental. Antidisestablishmentarianism would, however, lose its point if it were hyphenated.

A sum followed by the word worth also needs a hyphen. Thus $25m-worth of goods.

3. SOME TITLES

vice-president, director-general, under-secretary, secretary-general, attorney-general, lieutenant-colonel, major-general, field-marshal

but

general secretary, deputy secretary, deputy director, district attorney

4. TO AVOID AMBIGUITIES

a little-used car
a little used-car
cross complaint
cross-complaint
high-school girl
high schoolgirl
fine-tooth comb (most people do not comb their teeth)
third-world war
third world war

5. AIRCRAFT

DC-10, Mirage F-1E, MiG-23, Lockheed P-3 Orion
(If in doubt, consult Jane's "All the World's Aircraft".)

6. ADJECTIVES FORMED FROM TWO OR MORE WORDS

right-wing groups (but the right wing of the party), balance-of-payments difficulties, private-sector wages, public-sector borrowing requirement, a 70-year-old judge, state-of-the-union message, value-added tax (VAT).

Adverbs do not need to be linked to participles or adjectives by hyphens in simple constructions: The regiment was ill equipped for its task; The principle is well established; Though expensively educated, the journalist knew no grammar. But if the adverb is one of two words together being used adjectivally, a hyphen may be needed: The ill-equipped regiment was soon repulsed; All well-established principles should be periodically challenged. The hyphen is especially likely to be needed if the adverb is short and common, such as ill, little, much and well. Less-common adverbs, including all those that end -ly, are less likely to need hyphens: Never employ an expensively educated journalist.

Do not overdo the literary device of hyphenating words that are not usually linked: the stringing-together-of-lots-and-lots-of-words-and-ideas tendency can be tiresome.

7. SEPARATING IDENTICAL LETTERS:

book-keeping (but bookseller), coat-tails, co-operate, unco-operative, pre-eminent, pre-empt (but predate, precondition), re-emerge, re-entry (but rearm, rearrange, reborn, repurchase), trans-ship. Exceptions include override, overrule, underrate, withhold.

8. NOUNS FORMED FROM PREPOSITIONAL VERBS:

bail-out, build-up, call-up, get-together, lay-off, pay-off, round-up, set-up, shake-up, etc.

9. THE QUARTERS OF THE COMPASS:

north-east(ern), south-east(ern), south-west(ern), north-west(ern), the mid-west(ern).

10. HYBRID ETHNICS:

Greek-Cypriot, Irish-American, etc, whether noun or adjective.

Words gathered together in quotation marks to serve as adjectives do not usually need hyphens as well: the "Live Free or Die" state.

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A general rule for makers: if the prefix is of one or two syllables, attach it without a hyphen to form a single word, but if the prefix is of three or more syllables, introduce a hyphen. So carmaker, chipmaker, peacemaker, marketmaker, troublemaker, but candlestick-maker, holiday-maker, tiramisu-maker, antimacassar-maker. Policymaker (one word) is an exception.

With other words ending -er that are similar to maker (builder, dealer, driver, grower, owner, player, runner, seeker, trafficker, worker, etc) the general rule should be to insert a hyphen. But some prefixes, especially those of one syllable, can be used to form single words (coalminer, foxhunter, householder, landowner, metalworker, muckraker, nitpicker, shipbroker, steeplechaser), and some combinations will be better left as two words (insurance broker, crossword compiler, tuba player).

ONE WORD:
airfield
airspace
airtime
antibiotic
anticlimax
antidoteantiseptic
antitrust
bedfellow
bestselling
bilingual
blackboard
blueprint
bookmaker
businessman
bypass
carmaker
cashflow
ceasefire
chipmaker
clockmaker
coalminer
coastguard
codebreaker
comeback
commonsense (adj)
cyberspace
dotcom
fallout
farmworker
figleaf
foothold
forever (adv, when it precedes the verb)
foxhunter (-ing)
goodwill
halfhearted
handout
handpicked
hardline
headache
hijack
hobnob
kowtow
lacklustre
landmine
landowner
laptop
loophole
lopsided
lukewarm
machinegun
marketmaker (-ing)
metalworker
minefield
multilingual
nationwide
nevertheless
nitpicker (-ing)
nonetheless
offline
offshore
oilfield
online
onshore
overpaid
overrated
override
overrule
overrun
payout
peacekeepers (-ing)
peacemaker (-ing)
peacetime
petrochemical
placename
policymakers(-ing), but foreign-policy makers (-ing)
profitmaking
rainforest
roadblock
rustbelt
salesforce
seabed
shipbroker (-ing)
shipbuilder (-ing)
shipowner
shortlist
shutdown
soyabean
spillover
statewide
steelmaker (-ing)
steelworker (-ing)
stockmarket
streetwalker
strongman
subcommittee
subcontinent
subcontract
subhuman
submachinegun
sunbelt
takeover
threshold
timetable
transatlantic
transpacific
troublemaker (-ing)
turnout
underdog
underpaid
underrated
videodisc
videocassette
wartime
website
windfall
workforce
worldwide
worthwhile

TWO WORDS:
ad hoc (always)
air base
air force
arm's length
any more
ballot box
birth rate
car maker
child care (noun)
common sense (noun)
dog owner
errand boy
for ever (when used after a verb)
girl friend
health care (noun)
Land Rover
no one
on to
some day
under way
vice versa

TWO HYPHENATED WORDS:
agri-business
aid-worker
aircraft-carrier
asylum-seekers
bail-out
bell-ringer
build-up
buy-out
call-up (noun)
catch-phrase
copper-miner
death-squads
drawing-board
drug-dealer (-ing)
drug-trafficker (-ing)
end-game
end-year
faint-hearted
field-worker
front-line
front-runner
fund-raiser (-ing)
get-together (noun)
gun owner
gun-runner
hand-held
health-care (adj)
heir-apparent
hot-head
ice-cream
infra-red
inter-governmental
interest-group
joint-venture
kerb-crawler
know-how
lay-off (noun)
like-minded
long-standing
machine-tool
mid-week, mid-August, etc
mill-owner
nation-building
nation-state
news-stand
pay-off (noun)
post-war
pot-hole
pressure-group
pre-war
pull-out (noun, not verb)
question-mark
rain-check
re-create (meaning create again)
re-present (meaning present again)
re-sort (meaning sort again)
round-up (noun)
set-up (noun)
shake-out (noun)
stand-off
starting-point
start-ups
sticking-point
stumbling-block
talking-shop
task-force
tear-gas
think-tank
time-bomb
truck-driver
turning-point
vote-winner
working-party

THREE WORDS:
ad hoc agreement (meeting, etc)
armoured personnel carrier
chiefs of staff
half a dozen
in as much
in so far
multiple rocket launcher
nuclear power station
third world war (if things get bad)

THREE HYPHENATED WORDS:
A-turned-B (thief-turned-journalist)
brother-in-law
chock-a-block
commander-in-chief
no-man's-land
prisoners-of-war
second-in-command

Avoid from 1947-50 (say in 1947-50 or from 1947 to 1950) and between 1961-65 (say in 1961-65, between 1961 and 1965 or from 1961 to 1965).

âIf you take hyphens seriously, you will surely go madâ (Oxford University Press style manual).

Rules for using hyphens

taiwandave — Wed, 23 Jun 2004 17:11:59 GMT

There have been a number of recent questions concerning when to use hypens. The following is an excerpt from The Economist magazine's style guide.

Â© The Economist Newspaper Limited 2004

Use hyphens for:

1. FRACTIONS (whether nouns or adjectives): two-thirds, four-fifths, one-sixth, etc.

2. MOST WORDS THAT BEGIN with anti, non and neo. Thus anti-aircraft, anti-fascist, anti-submarine (but antibiotic, anticlimax, antidote, antiseptic, antitrust); non-combatant, non-existent, non-payment, non-violent (but nonaligned, nonconformist, nonplussed, nonstop); neo-conservative, neo-liberal (but neoclassicism, neolithic, neologism).

Words beginning Euro should also be hyphenated, except Europhile, Europhobe and Eurosceptic; euro zone and euro area.

Some words that become unmanageably long with the addition of a prefix. Thus under-secretary and inter-governmental. Antidisestablishmentarianism would, however, lose its point if it were hyphenated.

A sum followed by the word worth also needs a hyphen. Thus $25m-worth of goods.

3. SOME TITLES

vice-president, director-general, under-secretary, secretary-general, attorney-general, lieutenant-colonel, major-general, field-marshal

but

general secretary, deputy secretary, deputy director, district attorney

4. TO AVOID AMBIGUITIES

a little-used car
a little used-car
cross complaint
cross-complaint
high-school girl
high schoolgirl
fine-tooth comb (most people do not comb their teeth)
third-world war
third world war

5. AIRCRAFT

DC-10, Mirage F-1E, MiG-23, Lockheed P-3 Orion
(If in doubt, consult Jane's "All the World's Aircraft".)

6. ADJECTIVES FORMED FROM TWO OR MORE WORDS

right-wing groups (but the right wing of the party), balance-of-payments difficulties, private-sector wages, public-sector borrowing requirement, a 70-year-old judge, state-of-the-union message, value-added tax (VAT).

Adverbs do not need to be linked to participles or adjectives by hyphens in simple constructions: The regiment was ill equipped for its task; The principle is well established; Though expensively educated, the journalist knew no grammar. But if the adverb is one of two words together being used adjectivally, a hyphen may be needed: The ill-equipped regiment was soon repulsed; All well-established principles should be periodically challenged. The hyphen is especially likely to be needed if the adverb is short and common, such as ill, little, much and well. Less-common adverbs, including all those that end -ly, are less likely to need hyphens: Never employ an expensively educated journalist.

Do not overdo the literary device of hyphenating words that are not usually linked: the stringing-together-of-lots-and-lots-of-words-and-ideas tendency can be tiresome.

7. SEPARATING IDENTICAL LETTERS:

book-keeping (but bookseller), coat-tails, co-operate, unco-operative, pre-eminent, pre-empt (but predate, precondition), re-emerge, re-entry (but rearm, rearrange, reborn, repurchase), trans-ship. Exceptions include override, overrule, underrate, withhold.

8. NOUNS FORMED FROM PREPOSITIONAL VERBS:

bail-out, build-up, call-up, get-together, lay-off, pay-off, round-up, set-up, shake-up, etc.

9. THE QUARTERS OF THE COMPASS:

north-east(ern), south-east(ern), south-west(ern), north-west(ern), the mid-west(ern).

10. HYBRID ETHNICS:

Greek-Cypriot, Irish-American, etc, whether noun or adjective.

Words gathered together in quotation marks to serve as adjectives do not usually need hyphens as well: the "Live Free or Die" state.

----------------

A general rule for makers: if the prefix is of one or two syllables, attach it without a hyphen to form a single word, but if the prefix is of three or more syllables, introduce a hyphen. So carmaker, chipmaker, peacemaker, marketmaker, troublemaker, but candlestick-maker, holiday-maker, tiramisu-maker, antimacassar-maker. Policymaker (one word) is an exception.

With other words ending -er that are similar to maker (builder, dealer, driver, grower, owner, player, runner, seeker, trafficker, worker, etc) the general rule should be to insert a hyphen. But some prefixes, especially those of one syllable, can be used to form single words (coalminer, foxhunter, householder, landowner, metalworker, muckraker, nitpicker, shipbroker, steeplechaser), and some combinations will be better left as two words (insurance broker, crossword compiler, tuba player).

ONE WORD:
airfield
airspace
airtime
antibiotic
anticlimax
antidoteantiseptic
antitrust
bedfellow
bestselling
bilingual
blackboard
blueprint
bookmaker
businessman
bypass
carmaker
cashflow
ceasefire
chipmaker
clockmaker
coalminer
coastguard
codebreaker
comeback
commonsense (adj)
cyberspace
dotcom
fallout
farmworker
figleaf
foothold
forever (adv, when it precedes the verb)
foxhunter (-ing)
goodwill
halfhearted
handout
handpicked
hardline
headache
hijack
hobnob
kowtow
lacklustre
landmine
landowner
laptop
loophole
lopsided
lukewarm
machinegun
marketmaker (-ing)
metalworker
minefield
multilingual
nationwide
nevertheless
nitpicker (-ing)
nonetheless
offline
offshore
oilfield
online
onshore
overpaid
overrated
override
overrule
overrun
payout
peacekeepers (-ing)
peacemaker (-ing)
peacetime
petrochemical
placename
policymakers(-ing), but foreign-policy makers (-ing)
profitmaking
rainforest
roadblock
rustbelt
salesforce
seabed
shipbroker (-ing)
shipbuilder (-ing)
shipowner
shortlist
shutdown
soyabean
spillover
statewide
steelmaker (-ing)
steelworker (-ing)
stockmarket
streetwalker
strongman
subcommittee
subcontinent
subcontract
subhuman
submachinegun
sunbelt
takeover
threshold
timetable
transatlantic
transpacific
troublemaker (-ing)
turnout
underdog
underpaid
underrated
videodisc
videocassette
wartime
website
windfall
workforce
worldwide
worthwhile

TWO WORDS:
ad hoc (always)
air base
air force
arm's length
any more
ballot box
birth rate
car maker
child care (noun)
common sense (noun)
dog owner
errand boy
for ever (when used after a verb)
girl friend
health care (noun)
Land Rover
no one
on to
some day
under way
vice versa

TWO HYPHENATED WORDS:
agri-business
aid-worker
aircraft-carrier
asylum-seekers
bail-out
bell-ringer
build-up
buy-out
call-up (noun)
catch-phrase
copper-miner
death-squads
drawing-board
drug-dealer (-ing)
drug-trafficker (-ing)
end-game
end-year
faint-hearted
field-worker
front-line
front-runner
fund-raiser (-ing)
get-together (noun)
gun owner
gun-runner
hand-held
health-care (adj)
heir-apparent
hot-head
ice-cream
infra-red
inter-governmental
interest-group
joint-venture
kerb-crawler
know-how
lay-off (noun)
like-minded
long-standing
machine-tool
mid-week, mid-August, etc
mill-owner
nation-building
nation-state
news-stand
pay-off (noun)
post-war
pot-hole
pressure-group
pre-war
pull-out (noun, not verb)
question-mark
rain-check
re-create (meaning create again)
re-present (meaning present again)
re-sort (meaning sort again)
round-up (noun)
set-up (noun)
shake-out (noun)
stand-off
starting-point
start-ups
sticking-point
stumbling-block
talking-shop
task-force
tear-gas
think-tank
time-bomb
truck-driver
turning-point
vote-winner
working-party

THREE WORDS:
ad hoc agreement (meeting, etc)
armoured personnel carrier
chiefs of staff
half a dozen
in as much
in so far
multiple rocket launcher
nuclear power station
third world war (if things get bad)

THREE HYPHENATED WORDS:
A-turned-B (thief-turned-journalist)
brother-in-law
chock-a-block
commander-in-chief
no-man's-land
prisoners-of-war
second-in-command

Avoid from 1947-50 (say in 1947-50 or from 1947 to 1950) and between 1961-65 (say in 1961-65, between 1961 and 1965 or from 1961 to 1965).

âIf you take hyphens seriously, you will surely go madâ (Oxford University Press style manual).