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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Phobias tag:Clauses' matching tags 'Phobias' and 'Clauses'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aPhobias+tag%3aClauses&amp;tag=Phobias,Clauses&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Phobias tag:Clauses' matching tags 'Phobias' and 'Clauses'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3170.31378)</generator><item><title>Re: conjunctive adverb with comma and semicolon</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ConjunctiveAdverbCommaSemicolon/grnxr/post.htm#505121</link><pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:32:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:505121</guid><dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00ff"&gt;Hi,&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Usually a semicolon is used to with two independent clauses when a conjunctive adverb is used. &lt;font color="#ff00ff"&gt;I don&amp;#39;t agree. A semi-colon joins two independent clauses.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00ff"&gt;eg &lt;u&gt;correct &lt;/u&gt;Tom loved Mary; Mary did not love Tom.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00ff"&gt;eg i&lt;strike&gt;ncorrect &lt;/strike&gt;Tom loved Mary; whereas Mary did not love Tom.&amp;nbsp;&amp;#39;Whereas Mary did not love Tom&amp;#39; is not an independent clause, because it&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00ff"&gt;&amp;nbsp;can&amp;#39;t stand as a sentence by itself.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00ff"&gt;If you use a conjunction, you don&amp;#39;t need a semi-colon, because the conjunction itself supplies the connection.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Good. But I feel the two independent clauses can be independent in structure but cannot be independent in thought linkage -- that is, they have to related in thoughta and ideas. Am I right? I think I am right because I found some online references supporting it. &lt;font color="#ff00ff"&gt;Yes, you are right. The semi-colon indicates a close connection. I would add that the two parts should have some style or importance. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00ff"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;She loved him with all her heart; she never told him.&lt;/strong&gt; sounds OK&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00ff"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I took out the garbage; it was smelly.&lt;/strong&gt; sounds stupid.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What is confusing is when what looks to be two independent clauses in structure is connected by a comma, rather than a semicolon.&lt;font color="#ff00ff"&gt; You don&amp;#39;t neesd a semi-colon becsause there is a conjunction to supply the connection.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The average bamboo floor costs about $5 to $7 a square foot, not including&amp;nbsp;installation&lt;u&gt;, whereas&lt;/u&gt; &lt;font color="#00ff00"&gt;walnut or pine can cost nearly $10&amp;nbsp;a square foot&lt;/font&gt;.&lt;font color="#ff00ff"&gt; OK&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I feel that the color part can be said to be an independent-in-structure clause, but I&amp;nbsp;could be wrong. Why did the person write it as this with a semicolon?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The average bamboo floor costs about $5 to $7 a square foot, not including&amp;nbsp;installation;&lt;u&gt; whereas&lt;/u&gt; &lt;font color="#00ff00"&gt;walnut or pine can cost nearly $10&amp;nbsp;a square foot&lt;/font&gt;.&lt;font color="#ff00ff"&gt; Not OK&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Should they in&amp;nbsp;semicolons or in separate sentences and not commas? How can I know?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. This task requires cooperation among members&lt;u&gt;, similarly&lt;/u&gt; it could be said that it requires dedication.&lt;font color="#ff00ff"&gt; Two sentences. &amp;#39;Similarly&amp;#39; is not a conjunction.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00ff"&gt;2&lt;/font&gt;. He was poor&lt;u&gt;, therefore&lt;/u&gt; it was hard&amp;nbsp;for him to&amp;nbsp;buy basic necessities.&lt;font color="#ff00ff"&gt;Two sentences. &amp;#39;Therefore&amp;#39;&amp;#39; is not a conjunction.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3.&amp;nbsp;Give him a break. He was busy at that time&lt;u&gt;, moreover,&lt;/u&gt; he was sick to really pay attention to what he was doing.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;font color="#ff00ff"&gt;Two sentences. &amp;#39;Moreover&amp;#39; is not a conjunction.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;4. He was poor&lt;u&gt;, neverthless&lt;/u&gt; he gave the poor man the money.&lt;font color="#ff00ff"&gt;Two sentences. &amp;#39;Nevertheless&amp;#39; is not a conjunction.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00ff"&gt;In examples 1 to 4 above, you could also use a semi-colon to join the two parts. I wouldn&amp;#39;t, because the adverb supplies sufficient connection. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00ff"&gt;Let me finish by offering my personal opinon about semi-colons.&amp;nbsp;&lt;img src="http://www.englishforums.com/emoticons/emotion-1.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /&gt; Don&amp;#39;t use them excessively, or your writing will start to seem unnatural and irritating to the reader. About one semi-colon a month sounds acceptable. I never use them myself.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00ff"&gt;After English learners are taught about semi-colons, they often have them in just about every sentence on every page. Bad idea.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00ff"&gt;There are other people on the Forum who do not share my semi-colon phobia. &lt;img src="http://www.englishforums.com/emoticons/emotion-4.gif" alt="Stick out tongue" title="Stick out tongue" /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00ff"&gt;Best wishes, Clive&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>