Search results for 'tag:Phonetics' matching tag 'Phonetics'

Re: Questions about the past, with and w/o did-construction

gleb_chebrikoff — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:00:06 GMT

Normal 0 false false false RU X-NONE X-NONE MicrosoftInternetExplorer4 Hello, Raja, It goes without saying that there is no blame in being a non-native speaker and a layperson in linguistic science, so you should not be troubled by that fact. What concerns me, my friend, is that you persist in advancing a number of terms and probably self-made rules which are fallacious at their very core, since they contain controversial and largely scholastic judgements about the language on a purely theoretical level (as opposed to the practical sinchronical level, with which the present forum is mostly concerned). However, let me begin from the beginning. ...

Re: Vowels

tanit — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:47:14 GMT

Hi, For vowels in (British) English, you might try the BBC's phonetic chart: http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/grammar/pron/sounds/chart.shtml

Re: Dark L or Light L after final L + new word

dokterjokkebrok — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:40:12 GMT

Hi, Thank you both. I asked this because I thought the aswer to it would be pretty straightforward. But, as it turns out, it is slightly more complicated. Good information though. Why I want to know this? Partly because I find it interesting, but in the past, I also found it to be very helpful for my accent – including the complicated stuff. Besides, it's also helpful to know about the underlying theory for the classes I have to teach: I'm a student teacher of English, and, occasionally, if one of my pupils has difficulty pronouncing a sound, it's very convenient to know about this. I've acquired a basic/intermediate knowledge on the subject, but now I'm kind of stuck. Perhaps I'll buy some books on advanced...

Re: Moonlighting

raindoctor — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:55:42 GMT

That doesn't mean you have to post 18 times. You shuda combined them into a single post. Since we're preaching up proper English here, please, don't post "kind-of-chat" language here. I don't belong to the set 'we' you refer to. Second, I don't preach anything that doesn't belong to phonology. In that sense, 'shuda' is a valid one: in fact, many in accent reduction specialists advise students learn such fast speech phonological processes.

Re: Dark L in American English

anonymous — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:18:22 GMT

The "l" of "bell" when it ends a word is kind of a "half l" when compared to the initial "l" in "love" which allows the "l" voicing to be completed by going to a vowel. Yet the "l" in the word "bell" also gets completed if the next word starts with a vowel as in "bell of the ballL" Then the "l" kind of moves over to the "o" of "of" in flowing speech, actually sounding like the world "love". Some folks have a salient "l" such that when they leave the "l" to go to a vowel the tongue flaps downward even to the extent of slapping the lower part of the mouth. Joe Namath, of American...

Re: Pronunciation

raindoctor — Thu, 15 Oct 2009 06:47:37 GMT

There are two issues: (1) heuristics used in phonics (2) phonetics g: /g/, /dʒ/ c: /k/, /s/ /k/ is voiceless, whereas its counterpart /g/ is voiced. /s/ is voicelss; /dʒ/ is voiced. Velar consonants get softened (or voiced) before front vowels esp in derived-words: cf. electric vs electricity Given this background knowledge, what is your concern?

Re: Phonetic differences between English and Spanish

anonymous — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:23:45 GMT

The vowel in the English "family" is formed with the back of the tongue very high in the mouth (look in a mirror). The Spanish "a" is like the English in "Say 'AHHHH.'" The location of the tongue in the Spanish "a" is closer to the position of the English "u." That is probably why you think they sound the same.

Re: Last name pronunciation

anonymous — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:15:03 GMT

The correct pronunication of your friend's last name is how HE pronounces it. The same is true for any name. For what it's worth, however, I have always pronounced McElroy as "Mackle-roy", just as your friend does. Even though it is a nice advice, how on earth can you force all native English speakers to pronounce the foreign way? (like french pronunciatiosn for french-loan words). This is an impossible task and unproductive; that's why we should allow two kinds of variations: (a) re-spell the foreign word to match english phonics and phonology (b) retain the original spelling and anglicize it.

Spanish English in England

anonymous — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:35:29 GMT

Hello, may I know more about the Spanish English in England? What is the difference of pronounciation and phonetic between the Spanish English with the British English? And do the Spanish English in England is much different than those in US? Let's take Fernando Torres or Fabregas in England and Penlope Cruz in US as example.

Re: Pronouns (s) sound

mister micawber — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:02:09 GMT

You will need to check the phonetic transciption in the dictionary.

English

anonymous — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:21:51 GMT

what is the phonetic pronunciation of the name Nicholas

Pronunciation of coat and quote

mr. tom — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:53:59 GMT

Hi For Pakistanis, coat and quote have exactly the same pronunciation. In fact, whatever words start with " qu ", Pakistanis and Indians treat them like the start of co at. But the phonetic symbols are definitely different in dictionaries. Could you please tell me how different their pronunciations are in the " ears " of a native speaker? Thanks, Tom

Re: Welsh accent (to be more precise, Tom Jones's)

colombo — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:04:19 GMT

Instead of worrying about perceptions (auditory phonetics), try to produce variations (articulatory phonetics): how to produce a fronted /u:/ ? That seems a very good idea. I think I might try to change from one vowel to the other by knowing whether I must make it more to the front, to the back, more open... But I don't know how I can know whether I'm producig the right vowel, or any other. Are there mp3 recordings of isolated vowels that are long enough so I can try to adjust the vowel I produce to the vowel I hear, and then maintain it for some time? I should try to save them in my computer so I can practice at home.

Re: Welsh accent (to be more precise, Tom Jones's)

raindoctor — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:53:05 GMT

Instead of worrying about perceptions (auditory phonetics), try to produce variations (articulatory phonetics): how to produce a fronted /u:/ ? You have to formulate your worries into a set of problems, and then attack systematically. This is part of any cognitive activity: learning or producing knowledge.

Re: Welsh accent (to be more precise, Tom Jones's)

raindoctor — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 07:45:14 GMT

Focus on the variation of vowels in various accents: phonetic differences. Sometimes, you can see phonemic differences as is the case between BrE and AmE. Most of the transcriptions are broad, like the ones we see in dictionaries. Mastering narrow transcription, which requires you to train your ears to notice all variations/subtlities, is the key to understand variatiations.

Re: Welsh accent (to be more precise, Tom Jones's)

tanit — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:22:53 GMT

Hi, I might be mistaken because I'm not really into phonetics, but I don't think it's useful to look into an accent by analyzing the way one sings. If you want to listen to Welsh accents (or to accents from various parts of the UK), I recommend BBC Voices . You'll find clips like the ones in this page , and a map to choose locations from.

Welsh accent (to be more precise, Tom Jones's)

colombo — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:47:21 GMT

I've been away from this forum for a while, and meantime I've enrolled for a five-year (gulp!) degree in English (which includes grammar, literature, linguistics, and so on) at a distance university. Right now I'm starting to delve into English phonetics (using "Gimson's Pronunciation of English", which is the recommended textbook), and while I like the subject, I find it very hard. I don't think it'll improve my pronunciation at all, not having an 'Enry 'Iggins to hand, but I'm doing my best. I suppose the internet's got many resources, but having no internet connection at home and not much time to search, I cannot take much advantage of them. I've written down a list of...

Re: English and spanish phonetic sounds with their phonetic differences

anonymous — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 06:56:50 GMT

well the English D and T sound like a Spanish R (not double R but just R) - the Spanish J sounds like a English H - the Spanish L and English L don't sound alike (they are different sounds), and the same happened with the Spanish and English T (they are different sounds) - In English when one pronounce the letter "P" one relieses a puff of air, in Spanish you don't do that (that's what makes the Spanish and English T different too, by the way) - the English N and M's sounds are way longer than the Spanish ones - the Spanish Y and Spanish LL (or, double L) sound alike, and their sound is that of a English "J", unlike most people think, is the Spanish Y and double LL are not pronounce like an...

Re: English and spanish phonetic sounds with their phonetic differences

califjim — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 04:46:13 GMT

I'm sure they do compare -- somehow. But what is your question? Which 44 symbols are you talking about? Which Spanish sounds are you talking about? CJ

English and spanish phonetic sounds with their phonetic differences

anonymous — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 23:14:49 GMT

the 44 English symbols compare with similarity of spanish sounds

Re: Phonetic spelling translation

califjim — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:10:46 GMT

I need help! I need to translate retreat, ... That depends on the phonetic alphabet being used in your course. A phonetic transcription represents the sounds of these words, so it may also depend on how you say them. You have to ignore the written form of the words for a start, and then use only the phonetic symbols your teacher has presented in class to write the sounds of the words as you say them. CJ

Re: English speaking Help

coloraday — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:48:18 GMT

I'm not native but I do know that first of all you should learn the phonetic symbols and then with every word you look up you should try to pronounce it exactly.when you do this a lot then without any phonetic help you can read every word exactly. I think it would be a great help to listen all day long to The Beatles , then you'd love to repeat the way they sing and this will help your speaking.But remember just listen to The Beatles .

Re: Phonetic spelling translation

kooyeen — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:01:35 GMT

What's phonetic spelling? They all look like they are already written the way they are pronounced, more or less. Retreet, shadoh, helthy, breth, dismay, praiz.

Phonetic spelling translation

anonymous — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:48:49 GMT

I need help! I need to translate retreat, shadow, healthy, breath, dismay, and praise to phonetic spelling but idk how! help plsss

Re: Phonetics

mister micawber — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:08:50 GMT

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