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Re: Phrasal verb, Prepositional verb?

CalifJim — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:54:28 GMT

There are hundreds, if not thousands, of posts on this subject.

Use the search box with the words phrasal and prepositional and you should find lots of information about these.

See, in particular, Re: Differ between a preposition and an adverb in a phrasal verb..

Phrasal verb, Prepositional verb?

easygoing — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:14:32 GMT

Hello can you please tell me what a
phrasal verb is and what a
prepositional verb is
and what what are the differences between the two
Thank you very much

Re: Trouble finding subject and objects in this sentence

Mister Micawber — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:43:08 GMT

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Hello V878-- and welcome to English Forums.

On what does and will the fame of Turing rest? = The fame of Turing rests and will rest on what?

S = Turing
V = does and will...rest

on what is a prepositional verb complement (or rest on is a phrasal verb with what as direct object)

Re: Separable & Inseparable Phrasal Verbs

CalifJim — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:51:44 GMT

This Post:256204 may or may not be useful, as it is on a similar topic, but not the exact same one.
Check it out, noting later in the same thread:

"There are a number of particles (up, down, in, out, on, off, away, back) which should make us very suspicious that we are dealing with a separable phrasal verb, and a number of them (with, without, by, for, at, across, of, from, to, into) which almost certainly indicate a prepositional verb."

CJ

Re: Parse this sentence.

Anonymous — Sun, 21 Oct 2007 07:11:36 GMT

PHRASAL VERB = VERB + PREPOSITIONAL VERB

Re: Care about

CalifJim — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 05:30:50 GMT

I have summarized various ways of distinguishing between phrasal verbs and prepositional verbs at Post:256204.

CJ

Re: Care about

MyShirley — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 04:12:29 GMT

CalifJim wrote:
care about is not a phrasal verb. It's a prepositional verb.

care about it, never care it about.

CJ

What is the difference between phrasal verbs and prepositional verbs?

Thanks

Re: Care about

CalifJim — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:00:02 GMT

care about is not a phrasal verb. It's a prepositional verb.

care about it, never care it about.

CJ

Re: Two grammar questions...

CalifJim — Thu, 26 Jul 2007 08:19:08 GMT

You should read this Post:256204. Here is just a part of it:

There are a number of particles (up, down, in, out, on, off, away, back) which should make us very suspicious that we are dealing with a separable phrasal verb, and a number of them (with, without, by, for, at, across, of, from, to, into) which almost certainly indicate a prepositional verb. But there are some strange cases!
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<>a. Pick up it (INCORRECT) Phrasal verb pick up. Object it must precede up.
b. Pick it up (correct)
c. Pick up the phone (correct)
d. Pick the phone up (correct)

Example two:

<>e. Looking at it (correct)
f. Looking it at (INCORRECT) Prepositional verb look at. Object it must follow at.
g. James handed in the report (the report is "it") (correct)
h. James handed it in (it is "the report") (correct)

i. James handed in it. (INCORRECT) Phrasal verb hand in. Object it must precede in.

CJ

Re: Differ between a preposition and an adverb in a phrasal verb.

CalifJim — Mon, 05 Feb 2007 20:59:03 GMT

I've just realized that just as a phrasal verb can be a combination of a verb + preposition OR adverb, a ...... verb (which is not a phrasal verb) can also be followed by a preposition OR adverb. So I shouldn't call it a "prepositional verb". What do we call it then?

A phrasal verb is a verb and an adverb (also called a particle). If it is composed of a verb and a preposition (followed by the object of the preposition), then it is not a phrasal verb.
Among the verbs which are not phrasal verbs are the majority of verbs - ordinary verbs.
Some phrasal verbs and some non-phrasal verbs have the property that they are virtually always followed by the same preposition (followed by an object of that preposition). This kind of verb is called a prepositional verb. Phrasal prepositional verbs: come up with, look down on Non-phrasal prepositional verbs: rely on, vouch for

Just because a phrasal or non-phrasal verb is used with a preposition doesn't mean it's a prepositional verb. It's just an ordinary verb (not a prepositional verb) if several different prepositions are possible with the same verb. (go into the house, go around the house, go toward the house)

Phrasal verbs can be transitive or intransitive. (They fell out. We threw out the trash.)
Prepositional verbs can be transitive or intransitive. (I rely on you. I congratulate you on your success.)
And, of course, all other ordinary verbs can be transitive or intransitive. (I slept. We found the book.)

Phrasal verbs can be idiomatic, and they usually are. (bring up children)
But phrasal verbs can be literal as well. (bring in the dog)

Prepositional verbs can be idiomatic. (come across an unusual flower)
But they are more often literal. (cure the child of measles, approve of that behavior)

The line between literal and idiomatic is rather blurry.

eg 1:
a) Charles came into a fortune = phrasal verb (= idiomatic) I'd say prepositional, intransitive, idiomatic.
b) Charles came into the room = prepositional verb (and not a phrasal verb since the preposition is not part of the verb, it's part of the adverbial, right?) I'd say ordinary, intransitive, literal: came into the room, came out of the room, came near the room, ...

eg 2:
a) I've been running up debts these days = phrasal verb Yes. Phrasal, transitive, idiomatic
b) I run up to get my Dady's wallet = (verb + adverb) â> "run up" here is neither a phrasal verb nor a prepositional verb, so what is it? Interpretation 1: Ordinary verb with an adverb of direction, intransitive, literal. Interpretation 2: Phrasal with "goal" particle instead of the usual "neutral" particle, intransitive, literal.

<>to look into a subject matter Prepositional, intransitive, idiomatic.
to come into a fortune (phrasal verbs = idiomatic meaning => inseparable, but I know that "into" is a preposition) Prepositional, intransitive, idiomatic.

to look into the hole Ordinary, intransitive, literal. look into the hole, look around the hole, look through the hole, look across the hole

to come into the room (prepositional verbs? = literal meaning = inseparable) Ordinary, intransitive, literal. come into ..., come out of ..., come toward ..., ...
to talk someone into something = phrasal verb (idiomatic) or prepositional verb (literal)? Prepositional, transitive, borderline idiomatic/literal. (Literally talking, but "talk into" as "persuade".)

CJ

(By the way, the transitive phrasal verbs, as defined and described above, are always "separable". And they are the only ones that are separable.)