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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Plurals tag:Determiners' matching tags 'Plurals' and 'Determiners'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aPlurals+tag%3aDeterminers&amp;tag=Plurals,Determiners&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Plurals tag:Determiners' matching tags 'Plurals' and 'Determiners'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3170.31378)</generator><item><title>Re: Noun number and determiner</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/NounNumberAndDeterminer/gkvxr/post.htm#551650</link><pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:50:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:551650</guid><dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator><description>Hi,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#0000bf;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;. . . &lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;friends, I feel there is more to the explanation of it.&lt;br /&gt;What are noun numbers t&lt;span style="COLOR:#111111;"&gt;I&amp;#39;m no familiar with this expression. To me, it sounds like a way of talking about singular/plural.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;and determiners?&lt;/span&gt; Have a look at &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determiner_(class"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determiner_(class&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let me assure you that if you say things like &amp;#39;He&amp;#39;s pulling my legs / one of my legs/&amp;nbsp;a leg&amp;#39;, it will sound very odd and quite amusing to nstive speakers.&lt;img id="@@emo@@" alt="(:D) Big Smile" src="http://www.englishforums.com/emoticons/emotion-2.gif" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Best wishes again, Clive&lt;br /&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: has / have</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasHave/zqhqj/post.htm#498517</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:40:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:498517</guid><dc:creator>Yoong Liat</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Grammar Geek&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;You need some sort of determiner before &amp;quot;meal.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the U.S., we generlaly use a singular verb for family, but would still use &amp;quot;their&amp;quot; in the plural.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The dining area is where&amp;nbsp;the family has/eats their meals. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;It&amp;#39;s the same in BrE; either a singular or a plural verb can be used after &amp;#39;family&amp;#39;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;My family was/were in Orchard Road last Sunday.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: has / have</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasHave/zqhqv/post.htm#498512</link><pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:32:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:498512</guid><dc:creator>Grammar Geek</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;You need some sort of determiner before &amp;quot;meal.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the U.S., we generlaly use a singular verb for family, but would still use &amp;quot;their&amp;quot; in the plural.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The dining area is where&amp;nbsp;the family has/eats their meals. &lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Kindly eplain which  sentence is right?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/KindlyEplainSentenceRight/znclc/post.htm#482241</link><pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:25:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:482241</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>You have no determiner in front of annual contribution(s), so it has to be plural.&amp;nbsp; That makes 2 and 4 wrong.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you have only one investment plan (the usual arrangement), use 1.&amp;nbsp; If you have more than one, use 3.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CJ&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Part of Speech identification</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PartSpeechIdentification/zrrgn/post.htm</link><pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:16:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:417720</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>&amp;nbsp; Hello, this is my first post here, I like to know these words&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;kilometer&lt;br&gt;centimeter&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/i&gt;Are those words noun if they are standing alone ? if it's, what kind of noun it's, proper noun or abstract noun or etc ?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;After that, I want to indentify the part of speech of the following setence by using the stanfard parser at http://nlp.stanford.edu:8080/parser/index.jsp&lt;br&gt;if you input,&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;convert kilometer to centimeter&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;it gives &lt;b&gt;convert/VB kilometer/NN to/TO centimeter/VB&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class="parserOutputMonospace"&gt;
          
             
          
             
          
             
          
             &lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;br&gt;if you input,&lt;br&gt;convert 2 kilometers to centimeter&lt;br&gt;it gives &lt;b&gt;convert/VB 2/CD kilometers/NNS to/TO centimeter/NN&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class="parserOutputMonospace"&gt;
          
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             &lt;br&gt;You can refer to the tagset below, my question is, is the first input setence correct ? if it's correct the part of speech given by the program seems to be incorrect because&lt;br&gt;the centimeter should be noun instead of Verb, or am I wrong ? If you add the "2" as the second input the program gives the correct part of speech tagging,&lt;br&gt;it it because my first input grammar is incorrect ? Thank you.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Reference&lt;br&gt;&lt;pre&gt;1. CC  Coordinating conjunction  25.TO  to &lt;br&gt;2. CD  Cardinal number           26.UH  Interjection &lt;br&gt;3. DT  Determiner                27.VB  Verb, base form &lt;br&gt;4. EX  Existential there   28.VBD Verb, past tense &lt;br&gt;5. FW  Foreign word              29.VBG Verb, gerund/present participle &lt;br&gt;6. IN  Preposition/subord.   30.VBN Verb, past participle &lt;br&gt;218z     conjunction &lt;br&gt;7. JJ  Adjective                 31.VBP Verb, non-3rd ps. sing. present &lt;br&gt;8. JJR Adjective, comparative    32.VBZ Verb, 3rd ps. sing. present &lt;br&gt;9. JJS Adjective, superlative    33.WDT wh-determiner &lt;br&gt;10.LS  List item marker          34.WP  wh-pronoun &lt;br&gt;11.MD  Modal                     35.WP  Possessive wh-pronoun &lt;br&gt;12.NN  Noun, singular or mass    36.WRB wh-adverb &lt;br&gt;13.NNS Noun, plural              37. #  Pound sign &lt;br&gt;14.NNP Proper noun, singular     38. $  Dollar sign &lt;br&gt;15.NNPS Proper noun, plural      39. .  Sentence-final punctuation &lt;br&gt;16.PDT Predeterminer             40. ,  Comma &lt;br&gt;17.POS Possessive ending         41. :  Colon, semi-colon &lt;br&gt;18.PRP Personal pronoun          42. (  Left bracket character &lt;br&gt;19.PP  Possessive pronoun        43. )  Right bracket character &lt;br&gt;20.RB  Adverb                    44. "  Straight double quote &lt;br&gt;21.RBR Adverb, comparative       45. `  Left open single quote &lt;br&gt;22.RBS Adverb, superlative       46. "  Left open double quote &lt;br&gt;23.RP  Particle                  47. '  Right close single quote &lt;br&gt;24.SYM Symbol  48. "  Right close double quote&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;div align="left"&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
          
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          &lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: How does &amp;quot;the&amp;quot; modify plurals followed by relative clauses?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/DoesModifyPluralsFollowedRelative-Clauses/vrhbw/post.htm#336132</link><pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 00:08:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:336132</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>&lt;b&gt;A&lt;/b&gt;. She talked to &lt;b&gt;the&lt;/b&gt; students who failed the test. &lt;br&gt;
(Am I referring to some of the students who failed, or all (the?) students who failed?)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;All who failed.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;B. &lt;/b&gt;She talked to students who failed the test. &lt;br&gt;
(Am I referring to all (the?) students who failed, or have I incorrectly omitted "the"?)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&lt;i&gt;to students who failed the test = to some students who failed the test&lt;/i&gt;, where &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; may be &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; can include &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp; She may have talked to three
students, and only three failed the test (those three) or maybe five or
six failed the test.&amp;nbsp; In either case she talked to students who
failed the test.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;C. &lt;/b&gt;"Students who don't study usually fail." &lt;br&gt;
(Am I referring to all (the?) students who don't study, or have I incorrectly omitted "the"?)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;all (the) students who don't study.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;&lt;br&gt;D. &lt;/b&gt;"&lt;b&gt;The&lt;/b&gt; students who don't study usually fail." &lt;br&gt;
(Am I referring to all (the?) students who don't study, or some of the students who failed?) &lt;br&gt;
&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;all (the) students who don't study.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
C. and D. are equivalent logically.&amp;nbsp; C is a general (universal)
statement about all students; D is a specific statement about all the
students the speaker has singled out through previous contextual cues.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;
PS: Although &lt;b&gt;A&lt;/b&gt; has "the" and &lt;b&gt;C&lt;/b&gt; doesn't, they both sound natural to me. So does "the" modify the whole "students who blah blah" or just "studnets"? &lt;br&gt;
&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;Strictly speaking, &lt;i&gt;the&lt;/i&gt; does not &lt;u&gt;modify&lt;/u&gt;
anything; it never does.&amp;nbsp; But it acts as the determiner for the
whole noun phrase with its relative clause, not just the head noun.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
CJ&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Plural or singular?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PluralOrSingular/dpwjh/post.htm#326730</link><pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 08:19:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:326730</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>&lt;i&gt;Y and Z records&lt;/i&gt; means &lt;i&gt;Y record and Z record&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Singular countable nouns cannot occur without a determiner in English. (&lt;i&gt;the&lt;/i&gt; is a determiner.)&amp;nbsp; So you need something that means &lt;i&gt;the Y record and the Z record&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
CJ&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>such</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Such/dxbkr/post.htm</link><pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:55:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:319804</guid><dc:creator>Believer</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I think the usual recommendation regarding the usage of the word 'the' is that use 'such' with 'a', 'an' or write in the plural form for&amp;nbsp;the countable&amp;nbsp;nouns and don't use any&amp;nbsp;determiners for the uncountable nouns like this:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;such an apple&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;such apples&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;such nature&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But according to the Collins Cobuild&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Advanced Learner's Dictionary,&amp;nbsp;you can use &lt;STRONG&gt;such&lt;/STRONG&gt; before noun groups to emphasize the extent of something or to emphasize something is remarkable. In this instance, could this apply both to countable nouns and uncountable nouns unlike the examples given above?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Pls check grammar and coherence</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/CheckGrammarCoherence/dnzcg/post.htm#315917</link><pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:42:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:315917</guid><dc:creator>nona the brit</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;You have problems with determiners, plurals, verb tenses, prepositions&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;general grammatical structure. I've corrected the first paragraph for you and highlighed problems in the second. In the second paragraph you have started inserting a space before commas, which is incorrect.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;The&lt;/STRONG&gt; government does not do a good job in helping the poor. According to &lt;STRONG&gt;the&lt;/STRONG&gt; governments' data in 2005 , the number of&amp;nbsp; poor &lt;STRONG&gt;families &lt;/STRONG&gt;has increased&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;to&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;80,000&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;households,&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;doubling from the&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;1996 figure of&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;40,000 households&lt;/STRONG&gt;. Furthermore&lt;STRONG&gt;, some government legislation is&lt;/STRONG&gt; unfair to low income groups .For example&lt;STRONG&gt;,&lt;/STRONG&gt; those registered &lt;STRONG&gt;with&lt;/STRONG&gt; labour unions&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;have&lt;/STRONG&gt; to pay NT$24 per month for&amp;nbsp;national health insurance, (&lt;STRONG&gt;compared with average income groups - you can't say this without clearly stating the comparison. Is it double the amount average income groups pay, for example?)&lt;/STRONG&gt;. As a result, the gap between the poor and rich in Taiwan has extended widely since 2000.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #7fffd4"&gt;&amp;nbsp;Recently government&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #7fffd4"&gt; &lt;/FONT&gt;has focused on reducing the &lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #7fffd4"&gt;unemployed&lt;/FONT&gt; rate and also tried &lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #7fffd4"&gt;finding &lt;/FONT&gt;efficient strategies. &lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #7fffd4"&gt;By contrast&lt;/FONT&gt; , it seems to be &lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #7fffd4"&gt;fail &lt;/FONT&gt;because the &lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #7fffd4"&gt;unemployed&lt;/FONT&gt; rate has gone up significantly &lt;STRONG&gt;, &lt;/STRONG&gt;particularly in rural areas. In addition &lt;STRONG&gt;,&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #7fffd4"&gt;government &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #7fffd4"&gt;opens cheaper working&lt;/FONT&gt; from south-east Asia.&lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #7fffd4"&gt;Therefoer &lt;/FONT&gt;companies prefer &lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #7fffd4"&gt;hiring &lt;/FONT&gt;those&amp;nbsp;workers rather than Taiwanese.It is &lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #7fffd4"&gt;obviosly&lt;/FONT&gt; that&lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #7fffd4"&gt; government&lt;/FONT&gt; has just &lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #7fffd4"&gt;shown &lt;/FONT&gt;the policies &lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #7fffd4"&gt;about &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #7fffd4"&gt;umemployed&lt;/FONT&gt;, in fact ,&lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #7fffd4"&gt; government&lt;/FONT&gt; does not execute the policies in Taiwan.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: a large number of</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ALargeNumberOf/dmqbp/post.htm#314175</link><pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:35:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:314175</guid><dc:creator>Dawnstorm</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Inchoateknowledge wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;"depending on how I interpret" -- you mean I have the choice to adjust the verb form to the notion the subject suggests to me?
&lt;p&gt;and that it is a matter of taste?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;Invitations&lt;/font&gt; is the subject, thus, strictly speaking, only plural verb form is okay here. This is what I call grammatical concord as opposed to notional concord.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;Sorry, I think I was hasty claiming that. I was making up an ad hoc theory to explain the acceptability of "has" (and didn't even explain it). What I thought was this:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Subject: "a great number of invitations"&lt;br&gt;Structure "article + modifier + noun1 + of&amp;nbsp; + noun2"&lt;br&gt;Syntactic concord: usually with noun1: "a cart of apples is...", "a man of secrets is..." etc.&lt;br&gt;Therefore, syntactically: "a great number of invitations is..."&lt;br&gt;BUT: "a great number" can be equated with determiners: "many invitations are...", "some invitations are..." etc.&lt;br&gt;Therefore, after semantic adjustment, concord with "noun2".&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The flaw, assertion, or what you call it in my reasoning was "Syntactic concord: usually with noun1". (Really? I don't really have any basis to claim that such a syntactic rule exists. It's an ad-hoc hypothesis, that explains nothing.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So sorry, again, for any confusion I caused. Just ignore what I said about "interpretations".&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>