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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Plurals tag:Pronouns' matching tags 'Plurals' and 'Pronouns'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aPlurals+tag%3aPronouns&amp;tag=Plurals,Pronouns&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Plurals tag:Pronouns' matching tags 'Plurals' and 'Pronouns'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3191.21962)</generator><item><title>Re: Â«...clean grimy hands...Â»</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/CleanGrimyHands/gxrwr/post.htm#570044</link><pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:40:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:570044</guid><dc:creator>MissMandy</dc:creator><description>Unless you are talking about specific hands, you do not need an article of any sort. Generic plurals just don&amp;#39;t need articles.&amp;nbsp; I would guess that the author was looking for poetic writing, or else he would have probably added the pronoun &amp;quot;your&amp;quot; just as he did for &amp;quot;weary faces&amp;quot;. But it isn&amp;#39;t necessary.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hope that helps!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;~Miss Mandy&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re:  nominative and objective pronouns.......confusing!</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/NominativeObjectivePronouns-Confusing/5/gnrmn/Post.htm#565212</link><pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:05:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:565212</guid><dc:creator>Huevos</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Anonymous&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;You make errors even as you discuss errors!&lt;br /&gt;1. You link singular &amp;quot;someone&amp;quot; with plural &amp;quot;they&amp;quot;;&lt;br /&gt;2. Childrens&amp;#39; is wrong;&lt;br /&gt;3. &amp;quot;than me&amp;quot; should be &amp;quot;than I&amp;quot;!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scary.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;George&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Argumentum ad hominem!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Go and read some Causer or Shakespeare. This construction is over 500 years old. Although many 19th century grammars shunned it, almost all 21st century models have embraced it once again.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Just a typo. No need for a personal attack. What&amp;#39;s the big deal anyway, it wasn&amp;#39;t the subject of the discussion.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;To the conserative prescriptivist yes, but for the majority of English speakers that 19th construction has fallen from favour.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re:  nominative and objective pronouns.......confusing!</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/NominativeObjectivePronouns-Confusing/gnrjj/post.htm#565157</link><pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:32:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:565157</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>You make errors even as you discuss errors!&lt;br /&gt;1. You link singular &amp;quot;someone&amp;quot; with plural &amp;quot;they&amp;quot;;&lt;br /&gt;2. Childrens&amp;#39; is wrong;&lt;br /&gt;3. &amp;quot;than me&amp;quot; should be &amp;quot;than I&amp;quot;!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scary.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;George</description></item><item><title>Re: Which one is correct</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhichOneIsCorrect/gmnvn/post.htm#563920</link><pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:04:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:563920</guid><dc:creator>Mister Micawber</dc:creator><description>.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span&gt;pair&lt;/span&gt;:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span&gt;		&lt;a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/audio.html/lunaWAV/P00/P0020500" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/speaker.gif" border="0" alt="" /&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;noun, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;plural &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;#39;pairs&amp;#39;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;#39;pair&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&amp;#39;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When used without a modifier, &lt;span&gt;&amp;#39;pairs&amp;#39;&lt;/span&gt; is the only possible plural: &lt;em&gt;Pairs of skaters glided over the ice.&lt;/em&gt; When modified by a number, &lt;span&gt;&amp;#39;pairs&amp;#39;&lt;/span&gt; is the more common form, especially referring to persons: &lt;em&gt;Six pairs of masked dancers led the procession.&lt;/em&gt; The unmarked plural &amp;#39;&lt;span&gt;pair&lt;/span&gt;&amp;#39; is used mainly in reference to inanimate objects or nonhumans: &lt;em&gt;He has three pair&lt;/em&gt; (or &lt;em&gt;pairs&lt;/em&gt;) &lt;em&gt;of loafers. Two pair&lt;/em&gt; (or &lt;em&gt;pairs&lt;/em&gt;) &lt;em&gt;of barn owls have nested on our property.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;#39;Pair&lt;/span&gt;&amp;#39; signifying two individuals can take either a singular or plural verb, but it is usually followed by a plural verb and referred to by a plural pronoun: &lt;em&gt;The guilty pair have not been seen since their escape.&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp; (&lt;strong&gt;Random House Dict&lt;/strong&gt;)</description></item><item><title>Re: object plural</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ObjectPlural/gkpcg/post.htm#554631</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:20:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:554631</guid><dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator><description>Hi,&lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#0000bf;"&gt;1. The mouse made a hole in the box.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#0000bf;"&gt;Once again , I have to rewrite this sentence , changing nouns and pronouns into plural forms.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#0000bf;"&gt;1.a The mice made holes in the boxes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#0000bf;"&gt;1.b The mice made the holes in the boxes.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#0000bf;"&gt;Which&amp;nbsp; one is correct? &lt;span style="COLOR:#111111;"&gt;#1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#0000bf;"&gt;My doubt&lt;span style="COLOR:#ff00ff;"&gt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&amp;lt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="COLOR:#ff00ff;"&gt;Note this is not really a doubt. It&amp;#39;s a question&lt;/span&gt;. &lt;img id="@@emo@@" alt="(:)) Smile" src="http://www.englishforums.com/emoticons/emotion-1.gif" /&gt;&amp;nbsp;is the &amp;quot; a hole&amp;quot; should be changed into &amp;quot;holes&amp;quot; only or &amp;quot;the holes&amp;quot;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#0000bf;"&gt;Could anybody&amp;nbsp; explain it?&lt;span style="COLOR:#111111;"&gt;&amp;#39; A hole&amp;#39; is an indefinite reference. &amp;#39;Holes&amp;#39;&amp;nbsp; is the plural indefinite reference.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#111111;"&gt;&lt;span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;"&gt;The mouse made&lt;strong&gt; a hole&lt;/strong&gt; in the box.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; plural =&lt;/em&gt; &lt;span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;"&gt;The mice&amp;nbsp;made&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;holes&lt;/strong&gt; in the boxes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The mouse made &lt;strong&gt;the hole&lt;/strong&gt; in the box.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;em&gt;plural =&lt;/em&gt; &lt;span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;"&gt;The mice&amp;nbsp;made&lt;strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;the holes&lt;/strong&gt; in the boxes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Best wishes, Clive&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>object plural</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ObjectPlural/gkpcd/post.htm</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:50:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:554628</guid><dc:creator>hanuman_2000</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hello,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. The mouse made a hole in the box.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Once again , I have to rewrite this sentence , changing nouns and pronouns into plural forms.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1.a The mice made holes in the boxes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1.b The mice made the holes in the boxes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Which&amp;nbsp; one is correct?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My doubt is the &amp;quot; a hole&amp;quot; should be changed into &amp;quot;holes&amp;quot; only or &amp;quot;the holes&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Could anybody&amp;nbsp; explain it?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>plural</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Plural/gkpcc/post.htm</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:41:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:554627</guid><dc:creator>hanuman_2000</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hello,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have to rewrite the following sentences, changing the nouns and pronouns into their plural forms.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. &amp;nbsp;A rose plant has thorns.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1.a &amp;nbsp;The rose plants have thorns.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1.b&amp;nbsp; Rose plants have thorns.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now I have one doubt, Shall I&amp;nbsp; write&amp;nbsp; as 1.a or 1.b?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When a sentence start with&amp;nbsp; &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; for example&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. A book is made of paper.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Shall I write &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The books are made of papers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp; OR&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Books are made of paper.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What are the rules? Please help me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Verb in singular or plural?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/VerbInSingularOrPlural/gjlqk/post.htm#548804</link><pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:04:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:548804</guid><dc:creator>Doll</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Anonymous&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;My two cents:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1) Neither Paul nor John is American. or 2) Neither Paul nor John are American.&amp;nbsp; &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;When you see &amp;quot;neither nor&amp;quot; structure with two pronouns, give importance to the latest pronoun. Your last pronoun is John here so use &amp;quot;is&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/font&gt;1) Both Paul and John is American. or 2) Both Paul and John are American.&amp;nbsp; &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;When you see &amp;quot;both/and&amp;quot; structure always think that two or more things are joined, this sign, &amp;quot;+&amp;quot;, could make you remember the rule better. Associate &amp;quot;both&amp;quot; with &amp;quot;+&amp;quot; and use the plural axuliary verb which is &amp;quot;are&amp;quot; here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1) Both Paul and John is a doctor. or 2) Both Paul and John are doctors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&amp;#39;m asking this because in my native language, Portuguese, the verb can be used in plural (if we consider both subjects, Paul and John) or in singular (if we consider only John, the last one mentioned); verb agreement rules, so to speak. What about in English? Is it the same reasoning?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you very much.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;brunces 
&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;In short, neither nor: Decide according to the last pronoun and in your example it should be &amp;quot;is&amp;quot;.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;Both and: Always use plural which is &amp;quot;are&amp;quot; in your example.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: These ones and those ones</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TheseOnesAndThoseOnes/2/gjkhd/Post.htm#548355</link><pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:38:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:548355</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>Simply put you can not have a plural pronoun&amp;nbsp;describing a singular occurence.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you want to know how to restate your sentence do the following:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Are these the pens you&amp;#39;re looking for?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks, but no, those are not what I&amp;#39;m looking for. You don&amp;#39;t have to restate pens again. Those is a plural pronoun for pens. Ones would be using another prounoun for pens but this time is is in the singular form with a s making it plural.&amp;nbsp; Makes completely no sense at all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He is correct.</description></item><item><title>Re: fruit are?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/FruitAre/2/gjcvb/Post.htm#545990</link><pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:01:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:545990</guid><dc:creator>Cool Breeze</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Goodman&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As written:&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="color:rgb(0, 191, 0);"&gt;John&lt;/span&gt; and &lt;span style="color:rgb(0, 191, 0);"&gt;Mary&lt;/span&gt; are the only officers &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color:green;"&gt;who &lt;span style="color:rgb(0, 191, 0);"&gt;make&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt; decisions around here. And I asked if the answer should be [makes] or [make].&lt;br /&gt;And you said &amp;quot;In your sentence of course &lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color:rgb(0, 191, 0);"&gt;make&lt;/span&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By the nature of your comment, &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;didn&amp;#39;t you just agree with my view&lt;/font&gt;? &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;Yes, as far as &lt;i&gt;who&lt;/i&gt; is concerned&lt;/font&gt;. &lt;i&gt;What&lt;/i&gt; is something else. It &lt;b&gt;never&lt;/b&gt; has an antecedent as a relative pronoun, neither singular nor plural, &lt;b&gt;nothing&lt;/b&gt;, and that&amp;#39;s why a singular verb is used with it. This is obvious from the singular &lt;i&gt;that, &lt;/i&gt;which occurs in &lt;i&gt;that which, &lt;/i&gt;which is sometimes used to replace &lt;i&gt;what.&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You can of course check the grammatical behavior of relative &lt;i&gt;what&lt;/i&gt; in any good grammar book if you don&amp;#39;t believe me. I find it very strange that you haven&amp;#39;t already done that. It would have saved you a lot of time wasted writing opinions instead of facts.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CB &lt;br /&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>