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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Possessives tag:Apostrophes' matching tags 'Possessives' and 'Apostrophes'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aPossessives+tag%3aApostrophes&amp;tag=Possessives,Apostrophes&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Possessives tag:Apostrophes' matching tags 'Possessives' and 'Apostrophes'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3161.22795)</generator><item><title>Re: 500âs B.C ...?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/500SBC/gldbw/post.htm#556061</link><pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:06:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:556061</guid><dc:creator>Mister Micawber</dc:creator><description>.&lt;br /&gt;Some think the apostrophe is called for, but most grammarians believe it should be reserved for the possessive; &lt;strong&gt;1960s&lt;/strong&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;1800s&lt;/strong&gt; is a better choice.&amp;nbsp; As for &lt;strong&gt;500s BC&lt;/strong&gt;, I find it an odd or at least unusual combination, and cannot think why the writer did not use &lt;strong&gt;6th century BC&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: possessive pronoun</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PossessivePronoun/gjngp/post.htm#549217</link><pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:48:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:549217</guid><dc:creator>Doll</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hello,&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;the anger of&amp;quot; structure sounds strange to me but I can say that &amp;quot;the anger of my brother and mine&amp;quot; is correct.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He is a friend of mine.&lt;br /&gt;He is a friend of David.&lt;br /&gt;He is a friend of David&amp;#39;s.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; As for these, &amp;quot;the ..of&amp;quot; structure gives you the meaning that something is possessed by someone or something so you shouldn&amp;#39;t use an apostrophe &amp;quot; &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;&amp;#39;&lt;/font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; again.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;First and second one are correct.&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;My&amp;quot; becomes &amp;quot;mine&amp;quot; when it is used at the end of the sentence.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: nations' efforts or nations efforts</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/NationsEffortsNationsEfforts/2/gjchv/Post.htm#546044</link><pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:52:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:546044</guid><dc:creator>wholegrain</dc:creator><description>NO, THERE IS!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Muhahahahahahaha!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Proof:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Noun adjuncts were traditionally mostly singular (e.g. &amp;quot;trouser press&amp;quot;) except when there were lexical restrictions (e.g. &amp;quot;arms race&amp;quot;), but there is a recent trend towards more use of plural ones, especially in UK English. Many of these can also be and/or were originally interpreted and spelled as plural possessives (for example &amp;quot;chemicals&amp;#39; agency&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;writers&amp;#39; conference&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Rangers&amp;#39; hockey game&amp;quot;)&lt;a href="http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/CMS_FAQ/PossessivesandAttributives/PossessivesandAttributives07.html" title="http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/CMS_FAQ/PossessivesandAttributives/PossessivesandAttributives07.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;, but they are now often written without the apostrophe although this is criticised by some authorities.</description></item><item><title>Re:  Proper Use of Apostrophes (Dos and Don'ts about Do's and Don't's)</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ProperApostrophesDontsAboutDonts/gjbdb/post.htm#545684</link><pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:32:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:545684</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>According to the Gregg Reference Manual: &amp;quot;To form the possessive of a singular noun that ends in an s sound, be guided by the way you pronounce the word. If a new syllable is formed in the pronunciation of the possessive, add an apostrophe plus s.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Ex: your boss&amp;#39;s approval (you pronounce it as bosses); therefore, add the apostrophe.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Also according to the Gregg Reference Manual: &amp;quot;However, if the addition of the extra syllable would make a word ending in s hard to pronounce, use the apostrophe only.&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Ex: Los Angeles&amp;#39; freeways (try saying Los Angeleses). Difficult to do; therefore, just use the apostrophe.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Best grammar books are The Gregg Reference Manual and the Simon &amp;amp; Schuster Handbook for Writers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have no problem with boss&amp;#39; approval. At least this is a rule where one can understand why people get it wrong.&amp;nbsp;There are&amp;nbsp;grammar errors that bother me more; I&amp;nbsp;cannot understand why&amp;nbsp;people misuse apostrophes.</description></item><item><title>Re: will accrue to...</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/WillAccrueTo/gjbrw/post.htm#545640</link><pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:34:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:545640</guid><dc:creator>Mr Wordy</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;The last &amp;#39; is&amp;nbsp;a closing&amp;nbsp;quote mark, not a possessive apostrophe.&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;... will accrue to state elites&amp;quot; seems OK to me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;... will accrue to state elites&amp;#39; hands&amp;quot; does not sound quite right to me. It&amp;#39;s not usual for something to accrue to someone&amp;#39;s &lt;em&gt;hands&lt;/em&gt;. (&amp;quot;Fall into someone&amp;#39;s hands&amp;quot;, yes.) Your other two examples with &amp;quot;ours&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;son&amp;#39;s&amp;quot; are, as you suspect, wrong.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Did you mean to highlight &amp;quot;China&amp;quot;? I can&amp;#39;t quite see the significance of that in relation to your question. Apologies if I&amp;#39;ve misunderstood.&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: the possessive of 'her'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ThePossessiveOfHer/gwzdb/post.htm#541927</link><pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:28:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:541927</guid><dc:creator>Yoong Liat</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Anonymous&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;It had been &lt;strong&gt;Thomas&amp;#39;s&lt;/strong&gt; and her&amp;#39;s secret hiding place when they were children&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It had been &lt;strong&gt;Thomas&lt;/strong&gt; and her secret hiding place when they were children.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Since they hid in the same place, an apostrophe after &lt;strong&gt;Thomas&lt;/strong&gt; is not necessary.&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: the possessive of 'her'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ThePossessiveOfHer/gwzcp/post.htm#541924</link><pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:24:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:541924</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>Note where the apostrophes occur, and where they don&amp;#39;t.&amp;nbsp; The rows show the subject form, the object form, the possessive adjective form, and the possessive pronoun form, respectively. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;I&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; you&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; he&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; she&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; we &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; they&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; it &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Kate &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; the child&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; the boys  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;me &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; you &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; him &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; her &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; us &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; them &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; it &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Kate &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; the child&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; the boys&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;my &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; your &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; his &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; her &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; our&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; their &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; its &amp;nbsp; Kate&amp;#39;s&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; the child&amp;#39;s &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; the boys&amp;#39;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;mine&amp;nbsp; yours&amp;nbsp; his &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; hers&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ours&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; theirs&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; its &amp;nbsp; Kate&amp;#39;s &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; the child&amp;#39;s&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; the boys&amp;#39;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Note that there is no &lt;i&gt;her&amp;#39;s&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CJ&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>the possessive of 'her'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ThePossessiveOfHer/gwzbp/post.htm</link><pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:35:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:541907</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>Hello, &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In&amp;nbsp; the sentence, &amp;quot;It had been Thomas&amp;#39;s and her&amp;#39;s secret hiding place when they were children.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; Is the apostrophe after &amp;#39;her&amp;#39; correct?&amp;nbsp; It seems that it should be, but my MS Word Grammar check does not recognize it.&amp;nbsp; Thank you for your great service.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: months' or months</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MonthsOrMonths/gvqlz/post.htm#525594</link><pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:29:37 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:525594</guid><dc:creator>Huevos</dc:creator><description>It&amp;#39;s possessive so should have the apostrophe.&lt;br /&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: possessive</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Possessive/gvqhj/post.htm#525530</link><pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:16:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:525530</guid><dc:creator>Mr Wordy</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Are you asking about forming a possessive by the addition of apostrope-s? If so, then here are some thoughts. I just wrote this stuff off the top of my head, so it&amp;#39;s not meant to be any sort of definitive analysis. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There is no problem with making possessives from inanimate nouns. For example: &lt;em&gt;the Earth&amp;#39;s atmosphere&lt;/em&gt;; &lt;em&gt;the computer&amp;#39;s memory&lt;/em&gt;. However, as a very rough rule of thumb, it seems&amp;nbsp;that nouns that refer to concrete objects are more likely to be made into possessives in this way, and nouns that refer to abstract concepts are less likely. For example, &lt;em&gt;fright&amp;#39;s&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;completeness&amp;#39;s&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;congratulation&amp;#39;s&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;disappearance&amp;#39;s&lt;/em&gt;, while all theoretically possible I suppose, are unlikely. There is no hard-and-fast rule though. For example, &lt;em&gt;hunger&amp;#39;s pangs&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;jealousy&amp;#39;s rage&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;Christianity&amp;#39;s origins&lt;/em&gt; are all perfectly acceptable expressions that include the possessive form of an abstract noun. And there is one special expression that takes apostrophe-s words that would otherwise be unusual: &lt;em&gt;for&amp;nbsp;&lt;u&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/u&gt;&amp;#39;s sake&lt;/em&gt; (expletive in this case &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; deleted!). For example, while &lt;em&gt;comprehensibility&amp;#39;s&lt;/em&gt; generally seems very unlikely, you could say &lt;em&gt;for comprehensibility&amp;#39;s sake&lt;/em&gt;. There may be other special cases that don&amp;#39;t immediately come to mind. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When the apostrophe-s possessive of a noun seems unwieldy, a possessive can be formed with &amp;quot;of&amp;quot;; for example, &lt;em&gt;the consequences of his disappearance&lt;/em&gt; rather than &lt;em&gt;his disappearance&amp;#39;s consequences&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#39;t really understand what you mean by &amp;quot;Roman language&amp;quot;. Perhaps you mean &amp;quot;Romance language&amp;quot; (i.e. a language derived from Latin)? I guess it&amp;#39;s true that many longer abstract English nouns ultimately derive from Latin, and these are the ones that are, as a rough rule of thumb, less likely to have apostrophe-s forms. But there is no rule that says a word of a particular origin should or shouldn&amp;#39;t form a possessive.&lt;/p&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>