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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Prepositions tag:Consonants' matching tags 'Prepositions' and 'Consonants'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aPrepositions+tag%3aConsonants&amp;tag=Prepositions,Consonants&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Prepositions tag:Consonants' matching tags 'Prepositions' and 'Consonants'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3232.18851)</generator><item><title>Re: how to pronounce 'sp', 'st' and 'sk' in the middle of the word?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PronounceMiddleWord/dklrh/post.htm#302879</link><pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:34:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:302879</guid><dc:creator>Kooyeen</dc:creator><description>Hi, this is interesting, it reminds me of something I read in a book for improving pronunciation (the famous "American Accent Training"). The title of the paragraph is "Spoon or Sboon?" &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;She (the author) say: "Say spoon. Now say sboon. Hear how they sound the same?" &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&lt;i&gt;This is similar to your p/b problem. Anyway, I disagree, spoon and sboon sound similar to me, but not the same, and people say spoon, not sboon.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/font&gt; She go on saying: "Hear how they sound the same? This is why I'd like you to always convert the preposition &lt;b&gt;to&lt;/b&gt; to &lt;b&gt;duh&lt;/b&gt; when you are speaking, no matter what comes before it (voiced or unvoiced sound)." &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&lt;i&gt;I have to disagree again. I don't think &lt;b&gt;to&lt;/b&gt; becomes &lt;b&gt;duh&lt;/b&gt; after unvoiced consonants. Examples: "Way duh go!" (ok, vowel sound), "I need duh know that" (ok, voiced consonant), "To be or nod duh be" (I don't think so, I think it's simply "To be or not to be"). In the book, however, she explicitly write in the phonetic transcription "T'bee r nah d'bee".&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the end, that paragraph was one the ones I didn't pay too much attention to. But maybe she's right, and I'm just a bad sutdent not willing to listen to teachers &lt;img src="/emoticons/emotion-4.gif" alt="Stick out tongue [:P]" /&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: preposition OF</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PrepositionOf/dkjgx/post.htm#302410</link><pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2006 08:03:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:302410</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>&lt;i&gt;of&lt;/i&gt; always has the 'v' sound at the end except in (typically
faster) informal conversation, where the 'v' is sometimes dropped when
the following word begins with a consonant, 'of' then being identical in
sound to the word 'a'.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt;Help!&amp;nbsp; Help!&amp;nbsp; An alligator's got a hold of me!&amp;nbsp; (a hold a me)&lt;br&gt;
A friend of my sister's got a pony for Christmas.&amp;nbsp; (a friend a my sister's)&lt;br&gt;
That's the end of the story.&amp;nbsp; (the end a the story)&lt;br&gt;
A lot of the children already knew how to read.&amp;nbsp; (a lot a the children)&lt;br&gt;
He was the star of the show.&amp;nbsp; (the star a the show)&lt;br&gt;
Today's the start of football season.&amp;nbsp; (start a football season)&lt;br&gt;
She played the queen of spades.&amp;nbsp; (queen a spades)&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;This form of &lt;i&gt;of&lt;/i&gt; is sometimes written &lt;i&gt;o' &lt;/i&gt;(but with the same pronunciation as the 'a's above) and has become a fixed part of a few words such as &lt;i&gt;o'clock&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;jack-o'-lantern&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;will-o'-the-wisp&lt;/i&gt;, and &lt;i&gt;man-o'-war&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
This comment applies to American English.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
CJ&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: preposition OF</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PrepositionOf/dkhvw/post.htm#301792</link><pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 06:50:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:301792</guid><dc:creator>Marvin A.</dc:creator><description>Certain dialects in the Upper Midwest with a German substratum will sometimes devoice final consonants, therefore 'of' would sound something like [ @f ] rather than [ @v ]</description></item><item><title>Re: On / Off , Of / Off</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/OnOffOfOff/bhbrq/post.htm#118217</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 07:39:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:118217</guid><dc:creator>Teacher Eric</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Science_guru wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Sweety_pudding wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;i think of and off just looks like earchother..&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I don't agree with this.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;In fact I don't see any relation between "of" and "off"&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"of" is a preposition e.g. President of America,&amp;nbsp; son of Mr. List.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"off" is an adjective meaning "not in operation" eg.&amp;nbsp; Turn off the computer.&amp;nbsp; The lights are off.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;I found following meaning when it is used as adverb&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"From particular thing, place or position" -- they drove off&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"No longer on or in contact" eg. clear off the dirt&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;SG&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Even the pronunciation is different. Final sound for "off" is "f". For "of" it's "v" when the word comes before a&amp;nbsp;vowel sound, and "uh" or "ah" (as in sorta = sort of) when it comes before a consonant sound. Well, generally in AmE, that is. But if the "uh" or "ah" seems awkward to you, I suggest sticking to the "v". You won't go wrong.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'm in a bit of a hurry. (v sound)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Here's a list of materials I need. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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