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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Prepositions tag:Past tenses' matching tags 'Prepositions' and 'Past tenses'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aPrepositions+tag%3aPast+tenses&amp;tag=Prepositions,Past+tenses&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Prepositions tag:Past tenses' matching tags 'Prepositions' and 'Past tenses'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3191.21962)</generator><item><title>Re: Structure of sentence</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/StructureOfSentence/glwzz/post.htm#557571</link><pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:21:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:557571</guid><dc:creator>lisadove</dc:creator><description>16: is &lt;strong&gt;known&lt;/strong&gt; as (passive structure; active form: We know Boston as the Hub...)&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;17. storing, erasing and &lt;strong&gt;retrieving&lt;/strong&gt; (These are parallel and should be in the same form.)&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;18. &lt;strong&gt;Professor&lt;/strong&gt; Andom Iyassou (&amp;quot;Professor&amp;quot; is a title.&amp;nbsp;If Andom Iyassou is one person, &amp;quot;professor&amp;quot; must be singular.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;19. one mile &lt;strong&gt;high&lt;/strong&gt; (&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;height&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; is a noun; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;high&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; is an adjective)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;20. a &lt;strong&gt;symbol&lt;/strong&gt; (t&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;ree&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; is singular and&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;a&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; is singular, so &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;symbol&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;should be&amp;nbsp;singular)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;21. as efficient &lt;strong&gt;as&lt;/strong&gt; (the conventional structure&amp;nbsp;for a comparison. &amp;quot;so efficient as&amp;quot; could be used as follows: The software is not &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;so efficient as&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; to make the previous version obsolete.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;22. I suspect you made a mistake in copying this item. I would guess (C) &amp;quot;&lt;strong&gt;for&lt;/strong&gt; a great deal of their content &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;on&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; the majority of their pages.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;23. very much &lt;strong&gt;alike&lt;/strong&gt;. (&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;alike&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; is not a noun; only nouns can be preceded by &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;the&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;24. &lt;strong&gt;in&lt;/strong&gt; seconds (we use &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;in&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; with expressions of time: in a few days, in a million years, in about an hour.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;25. Boggs &lt;strong&gt;hit&lt;/strong&gt; a grand slam (&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;making&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; is used in the first part because it&amp;#39;s the object of the preposition &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;after&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, so it must be in noun [gerund?] form. The main clause is &amp;quot;Wade Boggs hit [past tense] a grand slam for the Red Sox.&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don&amp;#39;t have&amp;nbsp;time&amp;nbsp;to do&amp;nbsp;more; perhaps someone else will finish...</description></item><item><title>Re: What is the deference....?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhatIsTheDeference/glzzq/post.htm#556715</link><pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:30:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:556715</guid><dc:creator>YoungCalifornian</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#444444;"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#7f7f00;"&gt;She went to Cambridge.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Went&lt;/em&gt; is the past tense of &lt;em&gt;go&lt;/em&gt;.&amp;nbsp; If you &amp;quot;go to&amp;quot; a school, it usually means you attend there as a student.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#444444;"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#7f7f00;"&gt;She has been to Cambridge.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Been&lt;/em&gt; is the past participle of &lt;em&gt;be&lt;/em&gt;.&amp;nbsp; The sentence literally means that at some point in the past she was at Cambridge, but not necessarilly that she was enrolled as a student.&amp;nbsp; The usage of the past participle as opposed to the preterite also&amp;nbsp;implies that there is a meaning or reason she was there that is relevant to the present.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#444444;"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#7f7f00;"&gt;She was in Cambridge&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Was&lt;/em&gt; is the past tense of &lt;em&gt;be&lt;/em&gt;.&amp;nbsp; It simply means that she was there is the past.&amp;nbsp; Also, the use of the preposition &amp;quot;in&amp;quot; means that she was in the town of Cambridge.&amp;nbsp; If you mean the univerisity, use the preposition &amp;quot;at&amp;quot; instead.&amp;nbsp; Generally you don&amp;#39;t say that you are &amp;quot;in&amp;quot; universities.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To sum up, the verb &amp;quot;to be&amp;quot; in reference to a university means that&amp;nbsp;the subject&amp;nbsp;is simply present at the university.&amp;nbsp; To indicate that the subject is a present there as a student, one should use &amp;quot;to go to&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;to attend.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; The usage of the past participle (be=been, go=gone) in this context (i.e. perfect aspect)&amp;nbsp;indicates a past action with direct&amp;nbsp;relevance to the present.</description></item><item><title>Re: Passive or Past Tense? "+ing"?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PassiveOrPastTenseIng/gkprz/post.htm#554596</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:10:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:554596</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;happyhour123&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;How come &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;&lt;b&gt;in&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt; these sentences all the verbs &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;&lt;strike&gt;is&lt;/strike&gt; have&lt;/font&gt; &amp;quot;ing&amp;quot;?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; The &lt;i&gt;-ing&lt;/i&gt; form is the only form of the verb that is allowed after a preposition.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;for (not) having&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;for tampering&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;while leaving&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;for giving&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;without seeing; by going; since finding; before paying, etc.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;____&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And in another case the &lt;i&gt;-ing&lt;/i&gt; form remains after the deletion of &amp;quot;who was&amp;quot;: ... the officer (who was) inspecting his car.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CJ&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: tense problems</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TenseProblems/ghglm/post.htm#537450</link><pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 16:42:18 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:537450</guid><dc:creator>Cool Breeze</dc:creator><description>&amp;nbsp;In the first sentence the use of a present tense (think) emphasises what your opinion is &lt;b&gt;now&lt;/b&gt;. The past tense (thought) refers to the past; your opinion may have changed by now.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&amp;quot;I told her that I am (was?) happy in my job&amp;quot;&lt;/font&gt; Both are right. The sequence of tenses would require &lt;i&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; but if you are still happy, the present tense is also possible.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&amp;quot;I said to her that I do (did?) not know where Bob had gone &lt;strike&gt;to&lt;/strike&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;/font&gt; I would use &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; in your sentence because of the that clause. If you had a quotation within quotation marks, even &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; would be correct in some contexts. The last preposition should be omitted.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CB &lt;br /&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: I need your help,please.</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/INeedYourHelpPlease/zgmdc/post.htm#450604</link><pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 07:36:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:450604</guid><dc:creator>Avangi</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;1.&amp;nbsp; "women"&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; use plural to match "the elderly"&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;amp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; "are more LIKELY"&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2.&amp;nbsp; The goals of our program ARE&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; use plural verb with plural subject&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3.&amp;nbsp; MANY benefits&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; "Much" is for stuff; "many" is for things you can count.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;4.&amp;nbsp; there IS a lot of space&amp;nbsp; (missing verb in clause)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;amp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; IN which he could write&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; (or) &amp;nbsp; WHERE he could write&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;5.&amp;nbsp; (wrong choice of conjunctions)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; use "but" instead of "or"&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;6.&amp;nbsp; in ALMOST every country&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;7.&amp;nbsp; is EXTREMELY important&amp;nbsp; (use adverb form to modify predicate adjective)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;8.&amp;nbsp; positive OR negative&amp;nbsp; (conjunction)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;9.&amp;nbsp; While I WAS TAKING a walk&amp;nbsp; (past tense to match "saw")&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;amp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; RAKING&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; (wrong words&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; "talking" for&amp;nbsp; "taking"&amp;nbsp; and&amp;nbsp; "ranking" for&amp;nbsp;"raking")&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;10.&amp;nbsp; to care FOR their parents&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;11.&amp;nbsp; five LAPTOP TESTS&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; ("tests" is a noun&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; object of the preposition&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; and is plural because there are five.&amp;nbsp; "Laptop" is an adjective in this case and doesn't have to agree.&amp;nbsp; It could be a noun if used alone, like "Five laptops were found to be defective.")&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;12.&amp;nbsp; INSECTS&amp;nbsp; (plural to agree with animals)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;amp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; I think "fossilized" is the better adjective&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;amp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; I'd suggest using two separate sentences: "insects.&amp;nbsp; Fossilized"&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &amp;amp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; a period at the end&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;13.&amp;nbsp; I think this is okay.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; It needs a period at the end.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Congratulations on your first post!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;A.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: I need clarification on this</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/INeedClarificationOnThis/zzzhq/post.htm#443750</link><pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 02:06:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:443750</guid><dc:creator>Buddhaheart</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;1. We really appreciate your giving us your opinion regarding this issue.&amp;nbsp; &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;OK&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. We really appreciate you giving us your opinion regarding this issue.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Not OK&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;I&gt;What comes after the main verb âappreciateâ is a noun phrase&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/B&gt; &lt;B&gt;âyour giving â¦â. âGivingâ is a gerund acting as a noun. What precedes a noun must be a determiner and in this case âyourâ&lt;/B&gt;&lt;I&gt;. &amp;nbsp;&lt;B&gt;âYouâ is a pronoun and therefore is incorrect.&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;I&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;I&gt;You could turn these sentences into a complex one thus âWe really appreciate the fact that you considered our opinion regarding this issue.â&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3. We are looking forward to your giving us your feedback.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;B&gt;&lt;I&gt;OK&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;I&gt;&amp;nbsp;âToâ here functions as a preposition and NOT as a marker of infinitive. Therefore âyour giving â¦â is noun phrase and the above reasoning also governs.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;4. If it wasn't for my healing, he'd still be half dead. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;B&gt;&lt;I&gt;OK&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;I&gt;Type II Conditional expressing unreal condition. He wasnât half dead because of me. &lt;/I&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;5. It was my talking that convinced him into believing us. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;I&gt;âConvincedâ means âcaused to believeâ. Consider revising the sentence thus: âIt was my sweet talking that convinced him.â or âI persuaded him to believe in us.â &amp;amp; etc.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;6. It was my healing them that made them (to) &lt;B&gt;&lt;I&gt;win&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/B&gt; *won the fight.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;I&gt;The verb after âmadeâ is an infinitive without the marker âtoâ. A simple infinitive canât be in the past tense. For example, make me (to) cry (*cried); make me go (*went) away &amp;amp; so on&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/B&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: inclusion vs. separation (present perfect and simple past)</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/InclusionSeparationPresentPerfect-SimplePast/zzvbn/post.htm#443356</link><pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:13:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:443356</guid><dc:creator>Goodman</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Hoa Thai wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;Dear all,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;First, I would like to thank you in advance for reading this rather lengthy post of mine. I do need to lay out my thinking and reasoning as wide as I can so you can best help me to untangle my own confusion knot.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;After a whole day contemplating on freeing myself from this closet of my mind regarding the choice between grammatical correctness and expressional naturalness, I would like to re-explore the marriage between the simple past tense and present perfect - one more time.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As CalifJim clearly explains in one of his writings, simple past represents time specificity; while present perfect serves time non-specificity (i.e., sometime in the past, including the recent time frame). Obviously, âspecificâ and ânon-specificâ cannot be the same. However, in terms of time, a &lt;U&gt;ânon-specific time setâ does include a âspecific time elementâ&lt;/U&gt; (e.g., yesterday afternoon is âspecificâ in the time scale between the moment of big-bang and this very moment).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In addition to that, we all know a &lt;U&gt;ânon-specific recent pastâ does not include a âspecific far pastâ&lt;/U&gt; â distinctively, the former is younger than the later.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Therefore, (I think) the distinction between âinclusionâ and âseparationâ must have contributed to the way people express themselves. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Moreover, when â&lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;the last&lt;/FONT&gt;â enters a picture â as we often compare â&lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;the last&lt;/FONT&gt; yearâ with âlast yearâ â even though, it symbolizes the last one of &lt;I&gt;&lt;U&gt;any&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/I&gt; sequence (i.e., non-specific), its nature conveys time-specificity â all are before it and none is after it. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In comparing to âthe lastâ - âthe bestâ or âthe worstâ is quality-based and time-unbiased â none or more are before it and none or more are after it; and they are all inferior. However, the superlative âtheâ does indicate a uniqueness, so when it happens, the time involved is specific!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;After the above postulation, I can reason that:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;â&lt;I&gt;What was the best movie you have ever seen&lt;/I&gt;?â&lt;/FONT&gt; means &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;â&lt;I&gt;Among all movies you have seen, which one was the best?&lt;/I&gt;â&lt;/FONT&gt; -&amp;nbsp; and that must be logical and natural since â&lt;I&gt;all movies you have seen&lt;/I&gt;â covers the time you saw the first one to the time you saw the last one (time non-specific) and â&lt;I&gt;the bestâ&lt;/I&gt; associates with one point in time (time specific). Time inclusion is in play. (Note that: â&lt;I&gt;What is the movie you have seen best?â &lt;/I&gt;makes little sense&lt;I&gt;).&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Now comes the expression that raised different opinions in the earlier thread (&lt;a href="/English/Post/zvppr/Post.htm"&gt;Post: 441847 &lt;/a&gt;):&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;&amp;nbsp;â&lt;I&gt;What was the last movie you have seen?â &lt;/I&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;â If we think it means &lt;I&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;âWhat was the movie that you have seen last?â&lt;/FONT&gt;,&lt;/I&gt; then we are trapped in a time conflict because&amp;nbsp; â&lt;I&gt;you have seen lastâ&lt;/I&gt; combines time non-specific present perfect &lt;I&gt;âhave seenâ&lt;/I&gt; and time specific &lt;I&gt;âlastâ&lt;/I&gt; &amp;nbsp;to support the same object, the movie. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;B&gt;Question #1:&lt;/B&gt; Can we interpret &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;â&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;What was the last movie you have seen?â&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;/I&gt;to&lt;I&gt; &lt;/I&gt;mean&amp;nbsp; &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;â&lt;I&gt;Among all movies you have seen, which one was the last?&lt;/I&gt;â&lt;/FONT&gt; If not, would &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;â&lt;I&gt;What was the last movie you have &lt;/I&gt;&lt;U&gt;ever&lt;/U&gt;&lt;I&gt; seen?â&lt;/I&gt; &lt;/FONT&gt;(â&lt;I&gt;everâ&lt;/I&gt; is added) allow us to carry out the similar interpretation? &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If we allow the interpretation of &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;â Among â¦you have ...., which one was the â¦â&lt;/FONT&gt;, then we can conclude that simple past and present perfect can comingle provided that we look at the sentence from the âtime inclusionâ point of view.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Now letâs move on to the next angle of this marriage dealing with the name of great grandmothers (GGMs). &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;U&gt;If a GGM passed away far back in the past&lt;/U&gt;, should we ask &lt;I&gt;âWhat is her name?â&lt;/I&gt; or &lt;I&gt;âWhat was her name?.&lt;/I&gt; Some say, âName is name - dead or alive!â thus, &lt;I&gt;âWhat is her name?â&lt;/I&gt; is fine. However, some might disagree - âName is not mortal; it is buried with the dead!â (side note: in some part of the world, the dead is given a new name since people would not dare to call out the old one disrespectfully); thus, they would go with âWhat was her name?â &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;For the first set of people, they would prefer this question: âWhat is the name of the last GGM you have lived with?â For the second set of people, âwasâ should replace âisâ.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;B&gt;Question #2: &lt;/B&gt;If âwasâ is the better choice, do we face the same problem like that of &lt;I&gt;âWhat was the last movie you have seen?â&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Letâs compare &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;&lt;I&gt;âWhat was the last movie you have seen?â&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt; and &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;&lt;I&gt;âWhat was the name of the last GGM you have lived with?â&lt;/I&gt; &lt;/FONT&gt;Structurally, the two sentences are very similar, except that âhave livedâ comes with preposition âwithâ. (I think) that difference must have allowed us to easily accept the second one. Intuitively, we must have associated âhave livedâ with the GGM and âwasâ with the name. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In other words, if what I think is acceptable, then the âobject separationâ gives the sentence its naturalness and logical weight. Meanwhile, it seems odd to us to associate âhave seenâ with the movie and not with its title! The âobject uni-identificationâ causes us to question. (Side note: sometimes, we have seen a movie and remembered the actors and its story but its title). The difference between âtime inclusionâ or âtime separationâ in fact enters into our mind as a byproduct but not the cause for our confusion. Take a look at this question: "&lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;What is the title of the last movie you have played with?" &lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;Can you tell any difference between that one and "&lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;What is the name of the last GGM you have lived with?"&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;B&gt;Finally&lt;/B&gt;, for those of us who believe the addition of the word ârecentlyâ would provide the âtime separationâ between ârecentlyâ (present perfect) and âwasâ (simple past)&amp;nbsp; in order to resolve the seemingly faulty logic, (I think) it would not make any difference. In short, if we can convey âWhat was the movie you have seen &lt;U&gt;recently&lt;/U&gt; called?â to mean âTell me about the movie you have seen recently â What was it called?â, then it should be acceptable â the movie becomes a whole, and the title is a part.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thatâs it! Thank you all for trying to understand what has been going on in my mind. I am anxiously looking forward to your comments since I hope that your generosity will help me advance to a new gate on my learning journey. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Best Regards.&lt;BR&gt;Hoa Thai&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hi Hoa Thai,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Let me be the brave one&amp;nbsp;in the&amp;nbsp;attempt to tackle this long thread, if no one already posts a reply by&amp;nbsp; the time I am done with writing&lt;img src="/emoticons/emotion-1.gif" alt="Smile [:)]" /&gt; You&amp;nbsp;obviously have a&amp;nbsp;high degree of the English&amp;nbsp;language&amp;nbsp;and I can comfortably say most will agree. But you seem to have been bothered by what had been said in the previous posts about the mixed usage of simple past and present perfect. The problem to me really has more to do with one's logic and persepctive, rather than his grammatical knowledge, and you seems to be stuck at the sentence&amp;nbsp;which you posted 2 days ago. "&lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;What was the last movie&lt;/STRONG&gt; you have seen?â &lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;can not be a viably grammatical sentence no matter how we dress it. The rules I learned told me that simple past and present perfect just can't be married and expected to sound happily together. Consider this sentence "&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;when &lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;was &lt;/FONT&gt;the last time you &lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;have talked&lt;/FONT&gt; to your ex-husband?".&lt;/FONT&gt; Do you agree or not agree that this is not a sound sentence?&amp;nbsp;If you say&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color=#006400&gt; "I haven't talked&amp;nbsp;my your ex-husband after the devorce &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;but&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;I e-mailed him", &lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;th&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;en the conjunction &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;[but]&lt;/FONT&gt; will validate the use of mixed tenses. But they can not exist in the same frame of sentence sturcture.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;B&gt;Your questions:&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;B&gt;Question #1:&lt;/B&gt; Can we interpret &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;â&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;What was the last movie you have seen?â&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;/I&gt;to&lt;I&gt; &lt;/I&gt;mean&amp;nbsp; &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;â&lt;I&gt;Among all movies you have seen, which one was the last?&lt;/I&gt;â&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;I don't think so&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;, "what" usually requires a defined answer and "among" offers alternatives in my opinion&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;. If not, would &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;â&lt;I&gt;What was the last movie you have &lt;/I&gt;&lt;U&gt;ever&lt;/U&gt;&lt;I&gt; seen?â&lt;/I&gt; &lt;/FONT&gt;(â&lt;I&gt;everâ&lt;/I&gt; is added) allow us to carry out the similar interpretation? &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;"&lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;Ever&lt;/FONT&gt;" in this context does not sound right. "&lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;Last&lt;/FONT&gt;" is an adjective, but not a comparative adjective as in "What &lt;FONT color=#006400&gt;was / is&lt;/FONT&gt; the most&lt;FONT color=#ffc0cb&gt; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color=#006400&gt;scary/ borning/ bloody&lt;/FONT&gt; movie [that] you have ever seen?" Because we are associating movies by their names which do not change even as time passed, we can use either past or present&amp;nbsp;[was/ is] to refer to the movies with resepct to the rest of the context in present perfect.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;By the same token, we often hear people say soemthing like: "what&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color=#9acd32&gt;&lt;FONT color=#006400&gt;was&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;/FONT&gt;the lady's name we have just met?" which is fine either with [&lt;FONT color=#006400&gt;was / is&lt;/FONT&gt;] becasue "was" paints a picture of the time she was introduced to you, and "is" paints a picture of her&amp;nbsp;face with&amp;nbsp;her name in general. &lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;Other than that, I really don't know how to break it down further. &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;And regarding â recentlyââ¦&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;Itâs not a proprietary word to mean present perfect, if there is any hint / notion that this is the case, itâs not true. &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;"I recently took a business trip to Washington DC". Simple past with no defined time. &amp;nbsp;âRecentlyâ here defined it only as short time ago.âOk&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: verbs, nouns....-2</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/VerbsNouns2/zzdnv/post.htm#443262</link><pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:41:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:443262</guid><dc:creator>Cool Breeze</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Solomon_13000 wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Are the sentence below correct in terms of grammar&amp;nbsp;(verbs, nouns and so on that are italic)?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;Adjective&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They say that Simon is the &lt;i&gt;strongest&lt;/i&gt; man in the fitness club.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He is the &lt;i&gt;strongest&lt;/i&gt; man on earth&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That is the &lt;i&gt;strongest&lt;/i&gt; building in the city&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Neither Joan nor Jamie &lt;i&gt;wanted&lt;/i&gt; the plate of rice for yesterdayâs lunch. &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;Verb in the past tense.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He is a &lt;i&gt;wanted&lt;/i&gt; criminal &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;Past participle used adjectivally.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That is the toy John &lt;i&gt;wanted&lt;/i&gt; to buy for his kid &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;Verb in the past tense.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is the &lt;i&gt;biggest&lt;/i&gt; room in the mansion.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is the &lt;i&gt;biggest&lt;/i&gt; building in the world&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That was the &lt;i&gt;biggest&lt;/i&gt; hurricane that hit the city&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There is too &lt;i&gt;much&lt;/i&gt; sugar in this cup of tea. It is much too sweet. &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;Indefinite pronoun. (Some grammarians in some countries think differently.)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Donât eat to &lt;i&gt;much&lt;/i&gt; of sugar &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;Indefinite pronoun. (Some grammarians in some countries think differently.)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He is &lt;i&gt;much&lt;/i&gt; smarter than the teacher &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;Indefinite pronoun. (Some grammarians in some countries think differently.)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;Conjunction&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Courage is to a man &lt;strike&gt;&lt;i&gt;as&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/strike&gt; &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;what&lt;/font&gt; beauty is to a lady. &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;Relative pronoun.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am &lt;i&gt;as&lt;/i&gt; tall as John&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;English is used &lt;i&gt;as&lt;/i&gt; an international language &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;Preposition.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We will not be allowed to camp at East Coast Park &lt;i&gt;unless&lt;/i&gt; we have a permit.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You can&lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;&lt;b&gt;'t&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt; pass the exam &lt;i&gt;unless&lt;/i&gt; you study hard&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The company will close down &lt;i&gt;unless&lt;/i&gt; it makes some money&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;Auxiliary Verb&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Those cartons of drinks &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; been bought here for tonightâs party.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; been running for more than an hour&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; a dream &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;Main verb.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The toddler &lt;strike&gt;would&lt;/strike&gt; &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;will&lt;/font&gt; not sit down and &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; his dinner unless his mother is with him. &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;Main verb.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; worked hard for the company&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The authorities &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; predicted when the storm will hit the city&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;u&gt;Noun&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Neither my sister &lt;strike&gt;not&lt;/strike&gt; &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;nor&lt;/font&gt; her friends &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;are&lt;/font&gt; &lt;i&gt;planning&lt;/i&gt; to attend the party tonight. &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;Present participle.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He is &lt;i&gt;planning&lt;/i&gt; to build a house &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;Present participle.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;His &lt;i&gt;planning&lt;/i&gt; failed &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;Gerund or verbal noun.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br&gt;Correct unless marked otherwise. I have made some corrections as well.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;CB&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Past tense and Present tense in one sentence</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PastTensePresentTenseSentence/zzckh/post.htm#442925</link><pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:04:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:442925</guid><dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;Can I use these two tenses in the same sentence?&lt;BR&gt;For example, can I say:&lt;BR&gt;"I &lt;U&gt;chose&lt;/U&gt; answer B &lt;B&gt;at&lt;/B&gt; sentence 8 &lt;B&gt;in&lt;/B&gt; my last English test but the correct answer &lt;U&gt;is&lt;/U&gt; C"&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;Sure. Forget this odd idea about tenses completely. Consider this, which is fine.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Last year, I &lt;STRONG&gt;worked &lt;/STRONG&gt;in Japan, right now I &lt;STRONG&gt;work&lt;/STRONG&gt; in Korea and next year I &lt;STRONG&gt;will work&lt;/STRONG&gt; in China.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Please also check if I use the prepositions correctly.&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt; Yes.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;Best wishes, Clive&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Past tense and Present tense in one sentence</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PastTensePresentTenseSentence/zzckb/post.htm</link><pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:41:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:442919</guid><dc:creator>Anduy</dc:creator><description>Can I use these two tenses in the same sentence?&lt;br&gt;For example, can I say:&lt;br&gt;"I &lt;u&gt;chose&lt;/u&gt; answer B &lt;b&gt;at&lt;/b&gt; sentence 8 &lt;b&gt;in&lt;/b&gt; my last English test but the correct answer &lt;u&gt;is&lt;/u&gt; C"&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please also check if I use the prepositions correctly.&lt;br&gt;Thank you very much&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>