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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Prepositions tag:Whom' matching tags 'Prepositions' and 'Whom'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aPrepositions+tag%3aWhom&amp;tag=Prepositions,Whom&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Prepositions tag:Whom' matching tags 'Prepositions' and 'Whom'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3125.9045)</generator><item><title>Re: Appositive, direct object, indirect, predicate nominative, object of prepos</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/AppositiveDirectObjectIndirect-PredicateNominativeObjectPrep/gjrzr/post.htm#545428</link><pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:45:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:545428</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>&lt;em&gt;&amp;quot;Scurvy&lt;/em&gt;, a vitamin C deficiency, makes &lt;em&gt;people&lt;/em&gt; &lt;em&gt;weak&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;sore&lt;/em&gt;.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Scurvy&lt;/em&gt; is the subject, because it is the thing which&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;makes people weak and sore.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;People&lt;/em&gt; is the direct object, because it is what scurvy is affecting, direct objects usually follow verbs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Weak&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;sore&lt;/em&gt; are objective complements, because they modify the direct object, &lt;em&gt;people&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;Scurvy was the leading &lt;em&gt;cause&lt;/em&gt; of death among &lt;em&gt;sailors&lt;/em&gt; in the early eighteen century.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Cause&lt;/em&gt; is the predicate nominative, because it stands for the subject, scurvy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Sailors&lt;/em&gt; is the object of a preposition, because it follows the preposition among, and acts as the subject of the prepositional phrase.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;In 1753, James Lind, a Scottish naval &lt;em&gt;surgeon&lt;/em&gt;, showed that citrus could cure scurvy.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Surgeon&lt;/em&gt; is an appositive for James Lind, because it describes him further, but is not essential to the sentence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;When the British &lt;em&gt;navy&lt;/em&gt; gave &lt;em&gt;sailors&lt;/em&gt; fresh citrus &lt;em&gt;juice&lt;/em&gt;, scurvy disappeared from their ships.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Navy&lt;/em&gt; is the subject, because it is the thing which &lt;em&gt;gave&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Sailors &lt;/em&gt;is an indirect object, because they are the people to whom the juice was given.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Juice&lt;/em&gt; is the direct object, because it is the thing which was given.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;Today, scurvy is rare; it is usually seen only in very old or very young patients whose diets are deficient in &lt;em&gt;vitamin C&lt;/em&gt;.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Vitamin C&lt;/em&gt; is an object of a preposition because it is the subject of the prepositional phrase, &amp;quot;in vitamin C.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When trying to&amp;nbsp;diagram a sentence I think it becomes easier when you take out the unnecessary words. For example change &amp;quot;scurvy was the leading &lt;em&gt;cause&lt;/em&gt; of death among &lt;em&gt;sailors&lt;/em&gt; in the early eighteen century,&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;scurvy was the cause of death among sailors in century.&amp;quot; The latter is less senseful, but makes it easier to diagram the sentence&amp;#39;s nouns. Of course that method wouldn&amp;#39;t work as well when you&amp;#39;re asked to diagram words other than nouns. &lt;br /&gt;I hope this made some sense, and helped!&lt;br /&gt;-Nathan</description></item><item><title>Re: Appositive, direct object, indirect, predicate nominative, object of prepos</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/AppositiveDirectObjectIndirect-PredicateNominativeObjectPrep/gjrcl/post.htm#545388</link><pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:09:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:545388</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>&lt;em&gt;&amp;quot;Scurvy&lt;/em&gt;, a vitamin C deficiency, makes &lt;em&gt;people&lt;/em&gt; &lt;em&gt;weak&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;sore&lt;/em&gt;.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Scurvy&lt;/em&gt; is the subject, because it is the thing which&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;makes people weak and sore.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;People&lt;/em&gt; is the direct object, because it is what scurvy is affecting, direct objects usually follow verbs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Weak&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;sore&lt;/em&gt; are objective complements, because they modify the direct object, &lt;em&gt;people&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;Scurvy was the leading &lt;em&gt;cause&lt;/em&gt; of death among &lt;em&gt;sailors&lt;/em&gt; in the early eighteen century.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Cause&lt;/em&gt; is the predicate nominative, because it stands for the subject, scurvy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Sailors&lt;/em&gt; is the object of a preposition, because it follows the preposition among, and acts as the subject of the prepositional phrase.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;In 1753, James Lind, a Scottish naval &lt;em&gt;surgeon&lt;/em&gt;, showed that citrus could cure scurvy.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Surgeon&lt;/em&gt; is an appositive for James Lind, because it describes him further, but is not essential to the sentence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;When the British &lt;em&gt;navy&lt;/em&gt; gave &lt;em&gt;sailors&lt;/em&gt; fresh citrus &lt;em&gt;juice&lt;/em&gt;, scurvy disappeared from their ships.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Navy&lt;/em&gt; is the subject, because it is the thing which &lt;em&gt;gave&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Sailors &lt;/em&gt;is an indirect object, because they are the people to whom the juice was given.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Juice&lt;/em&gt; is the direct object, because it is the thing which was given.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;Today, scurvy is rare; it is usually seen only in very old or very young patients whose diets are deficient in &lt;em&gt;vitamin C&lt;/em&gt;.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Vitamin C&lt;/em&gt; is an object of a preposition because it is the subject of the prepositional phrase, &amp;quot;in vitamin C.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When trying to&amp;nbsp;diagram a sentence I think it becomes easier when you take out the unnecessary words. For example change &amp;quot;scurvy was the leading &lt;em&gt;cause&lt;/em&gt; of death among &lt;em&gt;sailors&lt;/em&gt; in the early eighteen century,&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;scurvy was the cause of death among sailors in century.&amp;quot; The latter is less senseful, but makes it easier to diagram the sentence&amp;#39;s nouns. Of course that method wouldn&amp;#39;t work as well when you&amp;#39;re asked to diagram words other than nouns. &lt;br /&gt;I hope this made some sense, and helped!&lt;br /&gt;-Nathan</description></item><item><title>Re: "each of whom brings..." why is it "whom?"</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/EachWhomBringsWhom/gwpnj/post.htm#544995</link><pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:18:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:544995</guid><dc:creator>Mister Micawber</dc:creator><description>.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Each&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; is the subject of &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;brings&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Whom&lt;/em&gt; is the object of the preposition&lt;strong&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;of&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: real or unreal</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/RealOrUnreal/ghxdh/post.htm#539621</link><pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 01:33:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:539621</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>Thank you.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;You wrote:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If the preposition is in the middle of the sentence, &lt;em&gt;[the pronoun]&lt;/em&gt; &amp;#39;whom&amp;#39; would be necessary. &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;To me using the word &amp;quot;seem&amp;quot; in a &amp;quot;would&amp;quot; clause seems very peculiar. Omiting the word &amp;quot;would&amp;quot; from the &amp;quot;would&amp;quot; clause also seems peculiar.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To me, having a &amp;#39;would&amp;#39; in a conditional sentence would stand out as &amp;#39;wrong&amp;#39;. We only seem to use &amp;#39;would&amp;#39; in a second conditional and rarely in a first conditional of the case involving mutual reciprocity like here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you would give me a pencil, I would give you a pen.&lt;br /&gt;If you happened to give me a pencil, I would give you a pen.&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: real or unreal</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/RealOrUnreal/ghmnr/post.htm#539206</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 07:19:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:539206</guid><dc:creator>Huevos</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Anonymous&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;If the preposition was in the middle of the sentence, &amp;#39;whom&amp;#39; seemed to be needed.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;If the preposition were in the middle of the sentence, &lt;i&gt;[the pronoun]&lt;/i&gt; &amp;#39;whom&amp;#39; would seem to be necessary.&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Anonymous&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;If the preposition is in the middle of the sentence, &amp;#39;whom&amp;#39; seems to be needed.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;If the preposition is in the middle of the sentence, &lt;i&gt;[the pronoun]&lt;/i&gt; &amp;#39;whom&amp;#39; would be necessary.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;To me using the word &amp;quot;seem&amp;quot; in a &amp;quot;would&amp;quot; clause seems very peculiar. Omiting the word &amp;quot;would&amp;quot; from the &amp;quot;would&amp;quot; clause also seems peculiar.&lt;br /&gt;</description></item><item><title>real or unreal</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/RealOrUnreal/ghmmm/post.htm</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:45:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:539201</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>Hi,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you have an if-clause like the one below, does it have to be unreal and not real or some-extent doubtful?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I used/wrote this sentence to ask a question:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;If the preposition was in the middle of the sentence, &amp;#39;whom&amp;#39; seemed to be needed.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;I used this sentence as sort of the reverse of the first conditional. Did I do right?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;If the preposition is in the middle of the sentence, &amp;#39;whom&amp;#39; seems to be needed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;This wasn&amp;#39;t the focus of my inquiry though. I think this is an age-old? question but as I said at the start &amp;quot;If you have an if-clause like the one below, does it have to be unreal and not real or some-extent doubtful?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;If the preposition was in the middle of the sentence, &amp;#39;whom&amp;#39; seemed to be needed.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How about this? Should a person writing a conditional sentence&amp;nbsp;know how probable the &amp;#39;if&amp;#39;?? factor?? is?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If he was in the park, he would be playing tennis. -- Oh, well, on a second thought, it would be hard to make a conditional sentence like this without setting up an unreal context and this should have &amp;#39;were&amp;#39; instead of &amp;#39;was&amp;#39;. Can you think of a situation where &amp;#39;was&amp;#39; would prevail -- while maintaining the similar structure?</description></item><item><title>Re: The difference between 'who' and 'whom'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferenceBetweenWhom/4/ghmmj/Post.htm#539198</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:31:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:539198</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>Thank you.&amp;nbsp; I think I was confusing the first one with the second one.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don&amp;#39;t like the boy who you are pointing to.&lt;br /&gt;I don&amp;#39;t like the boy whom (not &amp;#39;who&amp;#39; - I am sure) pointed his finger at you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then, again.&amp;nbsp;If the preposition was in the middle of the sentence, &amp;#39;whom&amp;#39; seemed to be needed.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;I don&amp;#39;t like the boy to whom you are pointing.&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: The difference between 'who' and 'whom'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferenceBetweenWhom/4/ghmgk/Post.htm#539097</link><pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 01:54:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:539097</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>&amp;nbsp;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Anonymous&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I donât like the boy to whom you are talking&lt;br /&gt;I donât like the boy who you are talking to&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;They are both correct, right?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Yes.&amp;nbsp; They are both correct.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Anonymous&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I think &amp;quot;I don&amp;#39;t like the boy who you are talking to&amp;quot; is incorrect.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; Sorry.&amp;nbsp; You think wrong.&amp;nbsp; &lt;img src="http://www.englishforums.com/emoticons/emotion-6.gif" alt="Sad" title="Sad" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; You can always use &lt;i&gt;who &lt;/i&gt;instead of &lt;i&gt;whom&lt;/i&gt; when you leave the preposition &amp;#39;stranded&amp;#39; at the end.&amp;nbsp; Use &lt;i&gt;whom&lt;/i&gt; for very formal contexts.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It would be quite idiomatic to leave out the relative pronoun completely, thus avoiding the use of &lt;i&gt;whom&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;I don&amp;#39;t like the boy you&amp;#39;re talking to.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CJ&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: Please edit funding request letter</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/EditFundingRequestLetter/ghjcd/post.htm#538155</link><pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 05:11:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:538155</guid><dc:creator>26TMNTJG2PG</dc:creator><description>My name is â¦ and I am a 2008 honors graduate of â¦... I have been accepted to (university), where I plan to further my education. (University) is a prestigious, highly selective, college that prepares students to change the world. Its liberal arts education empowers students to excel intellectually, think creatively, serve wholeheartedly, act globally, and lead boldly.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;I am currently seeking financial sponsors to help me with tuition, and hope I can count on your support. In case you havenât heard of (University), please allow me to share some history with you. Missionaries taught the first class in the basement of a church in (date) &lt;span style="COLOR:#ff0000;"&gt;(If the date includes day, then the preposition should be &amp;#39;on&amp;#39;).&lt;/span&gt; Since &lt;strike&gt;itâs&lt;/strike&gt; &lt;span style="COLOR:#ff0000;"&gt;its&lt;/span&gt; founding, (University) has grown to become one of the nationâs prominent institutions for higher learning in the liberal arts tradition. (University) has educated more than six generations of students who have reached the highest levels of academic, community, and professional achievement. (University) has a legacy of empowering students to succeed and to lead.&lt;br /&gt;Personally, I am looking forward to broadening my perspectives of the world and gaining a better understanding of the person &lt;span style="COLOR:#ff0000;"&gt;who&lt;/span&gt; I am and &lt;strike&gt;who&lt;/strike&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="COLOR:#ff0000;"&gt;whom&lt;/span&gt; I want to become. By continuing my higher education at (University), I plan to study biology with a concentration in pre-medicine. After completing my foundation studies, I plan to attend medical school to become a physician. I want to become a doctor because I want to help those who are less fortunate&lt;strike&gt;,&lt;/strike&gt; &lt;span style="COLOR:#ff0000;"&gt;and&lt;/span&gt; specifically &lt;strike&gt;I want&lt;/strike&gt; to provide my service to alleviate the AIDS epidemic in Africa. That is the essence of being a doctor and why I will be one.&lt;br /&gt;The total funds needed is ($amount) which includes tuition, room and board, living expense, books, supplies,, and transportation. I am asking [number] contributors to each donate [$amount] to help me reach my goal. Is it possible for you to assist me by making a contribution? Any amount of contribution would be greatly appreciated. You can make&amp;nbsp;a check, money order or cashierâs check out to (name). Attached is additional information that outlines my budget and how donations can be made. I can provide proof of attendance and once I graduate &lt;span style="COLOR:#ff0000;"&gt;(I think you mean &amp;#39;finish&amp;#39;)&lt;/span&gt; my first year I will send &lt;span style="COLOR:#ff0000;"&gt;to &lt;/span&gt;the contributors a copy of my certificate.&lt;br /&gt;My program tuition is due (date).&amp;nbsp; I have enclosed a contribution form for your payment reference. Please return it and whatever sum you can contribute to me at the following address. &lt;br /&gt;***&lt;br /&gt;Please feel free to contact me at (number)&amp;nbsp; if you need more information. Your generous contribution would enable me to share in this wonderful opportunity. Thank you in advance for your consideration, support, and generous response. I look forward to &lt;strike&gt;thanking you for&lt;/strike&gt; your support, and will of course be writing to let you know how my college experience goes.&lt;br /&gt;Respectfully &lt;span style="COLOR:#ff0000;"&gt;yours&lt;/span&gt;,&lt;br /&gt;(Name)</description></item><item><title>Re: proper use of whom, who or restructure this sentence - help pls.</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ProperWhomRestructureSentence/ggrdq/post.htm#530671</link><pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:17:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:530671</guid><dc:creator>Cool Breeze</dc:creator><description>&amp;nbsp;Both &lt;i&gt;who&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;whom&lt;/i&gt; are correct because there is a preposition (with) at the end of the relative clause. Many usage experts prefer &lt;i&gt;whom&lt;/i&gt; and you can choose that if you want to please them. However, there is no historical justification for preferring &lt;i&gt;whom&lt;/i&gt; to &lt;i&gt;who&amp;nbsp; &lt;/i&gt;in this context.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Similar examples:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;He is a man &lt;b&gt;in&lt;/b&gt; who&lt;b&gt;m&lt;/b&gt; she is interested.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;He is a man [who/whom/that] he is interested &lt;b&gt;in.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CB &lt;br /&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>