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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Present tenses tag:Analogies' matching tags 'Present tenses' and 'Analogies'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aPresent+tenses+tag%3aAnalogies&amp;tag=Present+tenses,Analogies&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Present tenses tag:Analogies' matching tags 'Present tenses' and 'Analogies'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3232.18851)</generator><item><title>Re: &amp;quot;Carol was one of my sister's best friend.&amp;quot; Still friends?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/CarolSistersBestFriendStill-Friends/vjvnq/post.htm#379694</link><pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 22:12:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:379694</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;Since the past tense doesn't imply anything about now, would you
find those past tenses I used ok?&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Of course!&amp;nbsp; You can tell
us whatever you want.&amp;nbsp; You can tell us about something in the past
or you can tell us about something in the present, or whatever
combinations you'd like.&amp;nbsp; Just don't expect us to &lt;b&gt;infer by logic from the grammar&lt;/b&gt;
anything about the past from the present tense statements or about the
present from the past tense statements!&amp;nbsp; (As I argued by analogy
earlier, this would be like inferring things about Spain from
statements about France.) We may, however, infer these things in other
ways -- from what we see with our own eyes, from other information we
already know, and so on.&amp;nbsp; But this sort of inference is not
inference from grammatical structure.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
CJ&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: would rather</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/WouldRather/cgxxh/post.htm#200811</link><pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:16:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:200811</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>Hela,&lt;br&gt;
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I can't speak for other people!&amp;nbsp; I don't know why they would use
present (subj) instead of past!&amp;nbsp; Maybe the idiom itself should be
considered as only weakly governing the following verb, similar to
"if".&amp;nbsp; Recall that "would rather" has a sort of double
identity:&amp;nbsp; It is an idiom for "prefer" (with a present tense
meaning), and it contains "would", which gives it the flavor of "would
prefer".&lt;br&gt;
On the one hand, we have "I prefer that he stay"; on the other hand, we have "I would prefer it if he stayed".&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
The analogy with "if" is not completely parallel, but you may find some explanatory power in it:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;i&gt;If I stay, I will fall asleep.&lt;br&gt;
If I stayed, I would fall asleep.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
If not, ignore the examples with "if"!&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
CJ&lt;br&gt;
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