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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Present tenses tag:Football' matching tags 'Present tenses' and 'Football'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aPresent+tenses+tag%3aFootball&amp;tag=Present+tenses,Football&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Present tenses tag:Football' matching tags 'Present tenses' and 'Football'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3232.18851)</generator><item><title>Re: Need help over here.</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/NeedHelpOverHere/gzvnp/post.htm#527083</link><pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 02:08:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:527083</guid><dc:creator>Mr Wordy</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;1. Well, &amp;quot;had&amp;quot; is the past tense of the verb &amp;quot;have&amp;quot;, but I think you&amp;#39;re asking specifically about its use as an auxiliary to form&amp;nbsp;the past perfect tense of other verbs:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;I played&lt;/em&gt; -- simple past tense&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;I &lt;strong&gt;have&lt;/strong&gt; played&lt;/em&gt; -- present perfect tense&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;I &lt;strong&gt;had&lt;/strong&gt; played&lt;/em&gt; -- past perfect (or pluperfect) tense&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, even though &amp;quot;have&amp;quot; on its own is present tense, it forms a past tense with other verbs. If you do a Google search for these tense names then you will find tons of information on their uses. See, for example, &lt;a href="http://www.englishpage.com/verbpage/pastperfect.html"&gt;http://www.englishpage.com/verbpage/pastperfect.html&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;(this page describes the past perfect; all the other tenses are linked down the left hand side).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;I have played football yesterday&amp;quot; isn&amp;#39;t right. &amp;quot;have played football&amp;quot; has the general sense of &amp;quot;played football on one or more unspecified occasions in the past&amp;quot;, and it doesn&amp;#39;t go with &amp;quot;yesterday&amp;quot;, which is a specific occasion. Instead you would say &amp;quot;I played football yesterday&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. &amp;quot;Never&amp;quot; can be used with a variety of different tenses, depending on when the thing in question&amp;nbsp;wasn&amp;#39;t/isn&amp;#39;t done or didn&amp;#39;t/doesn&amp;#39;t happen. A couple of examples:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;You&amp;nbsp;never &lt;strong&gt;told&lt;/strong&gt; me that you loved me&lt;/em&gt; -- means that you didn&amp;#39;t tell me&amp;nbsp;in the&amp;nbsp;past, but you might tell me now (or in the future).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;You never &lt;strong&gt;tell&lt;/strong&gt; me that you&amp;nbsp;love me&lt;/em&gt; -- means that you didn&amp;#39;t tell me in the past &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;you don&amp;#39;t tell me now. In other words, the absence of telling continues up to and including the present.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#39;s not possible to use the present tense with &amp;quot;never before&amp;quot;, so &amp;quot;I never &lt;strong&gt;do&lt;/strong&gt; that before&amp;quot; is wrong. It should be &amp;quot;I never &lt;strong&gt;did&lt;/strong&gt; that before&amp;quot; (or &amp;quot;I have never done that before&amp;quot;).&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: corrections 1a</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Corrections1a/zrdjr/post.htm#418625</link><pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:23:46 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:418625</guid><dc:creator>Grammar Geek</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;Can I say,&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;(a) Please get the pencil. &lt;/FONT&gt;Okay&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;(b) Ali, please &lt;STRIKE&gt;borrow &lt;/STRIKE&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;lend &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;me pencil.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;(c) He catches one big fish. &lt;/FONT&gt;Okay, but odd&amp;nbsp; in present tense, and odd to use "one" instead of "a" unless you want to contrast it with other numbers. He caught a big fish. He caught one big fish and several smaller ones.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;(d) The colour of the flower is red. &lt;/FONT&gt;Okay, but not very natural. The flower is red. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;(e) Please, may I borrow a pencil? &lt;/FONT&gt;Perfect&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;(f) He has an old and black computer. &lt;/FONT&gt;What is black? The computer body? The monitor? He has an old black computer.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;(g) My hobbies are playing carrom, hockey and football. &lt;/FONT&gt;Okay - I don't know what carrom is, but it seems to work grammatically.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: what is the difference between &amp;quot;did&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;does&amp;quot;</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferenceBetweenDoes/dlnqg/post.htm#308641</link><pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2006 05:44:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:308641</guid><dc:creator>Nmurugeshan2nev</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ee82ee"&gt;Did is used in the Simple Past Tense&lt;/FONT&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;E.g. (1) I went to school. (Simple Past)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;= I &lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00"&gt;did &lt;/FONT&gt;go to school.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;(2)&amp;nbsp;Raju came late. (Simple Past)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;=&amp;nbsp;Raju&amp;nbsp;&lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00"&gt;did&lt;/FONT&gt; come late.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;(3)&amp;nbsp;We played football. (Simpe Past)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;=&amp;nbsp;We &lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00"&gt;did&lt;/FONT&gt; play football.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ee82ee"&gt;Does and Do is used for Simple Present Tense.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ee82ee"&gt;(Does for single person, Do for more than one person except subject `I')&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;(1) I go to school. (Simple Present)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;= I &lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00"&gt;do&lt;/FONT&gt; go to school.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;(2)&amp;nbsp;Raju come late. (Simple Present)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;=&amp;nbsp;Raju &lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00"&gt;does&lt;/FONT&gt; come late. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;(3) I come late. (Simple Present)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;= I &lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00"&gt;do&lt;/FONT&gt; come late.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;(4)&amp;nbsp;We&amp;nbsp;play football. (Simple Present)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;= We &lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00"&gt;do&lt;/FONT&gt; play football.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: What is the difference between the past continuous tense and the simple p..</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferenceBetweenPastContinuous-TenseSimple/dvwzm/post.htm#272624</link><pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 16:58:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:272624</guid><dc:creator>pieanne</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Voltaire101 wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;I can differe&amp;nbsp;&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;make the difference &lt;/FONT&gt;between the present continuous tense and the simple present tense.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;The &lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;difference&lt;/FONT&gt; is :&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=5&gt;&lt;EM&gt;- Th&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;e&lt;/FONT&gt; simple present tense is used for a repeated or habitual action that happen&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;s&lt;/FONT&gt; always or often or usually. &lt;FONT color=#800080&gt;In these cases you'll have an adverb or a complement that tells you you have to use it. &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color=#800080&gt;Or you use it to express truths that cannot be changed (water boils at 100Â°)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=5&gt;&lt;EM&gt;- Th&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;e&lt;/FONT&gt; present &lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;continuous&lt;/FONT&gt; tense is used for an action that is still &lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;continuing&lt;/FONT&gt; now. &lt;FONT color=#800080&gt;Rather "an action that is happening right now. No continuing for the present continuous tense.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=5&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff0000 size=4&gt;&lt;U&gt;but I can't differe &lt;FONT color=#800080&gt;make the difference &lt;/FONT&gt;between the past continuous tense and the simple past &lt;FONT color=#800080&gt;tense&lt;/FONT&gt;.&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000 size=4&gt;When&amp;nbsp;we use the past &lt;FONT color=#800080&gt;continuous&lt;/FONT&gt; tense,&amp;nbsp;we use it&amp;nbsp;as these sentences:&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;1- The teacher was giving us a lesson.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;2- A year, ago I was working in London.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;And we use the simple past tense as these sentences:&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;1- The thief picked his pocket.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;2- I passed the river yesterday.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#800080 size=4&gt;There is no context to all of these sentences, and context gives you the hint for the tense you have to use.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;.................&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;We can also use &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;the simple past tense&lt;/FONT&gt; with&lt;FONT color=#deb887&gt; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;the past &lt;FONT color=#800080&gt;continuous&lt;/FONT&gt; tense&lt;/FONT&gt; as these sentences:&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;1- &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;The teacher was giving us a lesson&lt;/FONT&gt; when &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;a little dog walked into the room&lt;/FONT&gt;.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;2 -&lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt; While we were having supper&lt;/FONT&gt;,all &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;the lights went out&lt;/FONT&gt;.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;3- All &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;the lights went out&lt;/FONT&gt; while &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;we were having supper&lt;/FONT&gt;.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;4 - &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;&lt;FONT color=#800080&gt;Harry&lt;/FONT&gt; did his homework&lt;/FONT&gt; while &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;the other boys were playing football.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;Ok&amp;nbsp;, what is the problem If &amp;nbsp;I say :&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;1- The teacher gave us a lesson when a little dog walked into the room. &lt;FONT color=#800080&gt;Looks as if the teacher gave you a lesson during the very short time it took the little dog to walk into the room; 10 seconds?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;2- &lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;While we&amp;nbsp; had supper,all the lights went out.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000 size=4&gt;3- All the lights went out while we had supper.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000 size=4&gt;4 - Hrry did his homework while the other boys played football.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;..................&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;&lt;FONT size=6&gt;W&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;hen to use the simple past tense and when to use the present cotinuous tense&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT size=6&gt;?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;</description></item><item><title>What is the difference between the past continuous tense and the simple p..</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferenceBetweenPastContinuous-TenseSimple/dvwcj/post.htm</link><pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:48:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:272570</guid><dc:creator>Voltaire101</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;I can differe&amp;nbsp;between the present continuous tense and the simple present tense.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;The diference is :&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=5&gt;&lt;EM&gt;- Th simple present tense is used for a repeated or habitual action that happen always or often or usually.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=5&gt;&lt;EM&gt;- Th present cotinuous tense is used for an action that is still contiuing now. &lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=5&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff0000 size=4&gt;&lt;U&gt;but I can't differe between the past continuous tense and the simple past tens.&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000 size=4&gt;When&amp;nbsp;we use the past cotinuous tense,&amp;nbsp;we use it&amp;nbsp;as these sentences:&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;1- The teacher was giving us a lesson.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;2- A year, ago I was working in London.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;And we use the simple past tense as these sentences:&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;1- The thief picked his pocket.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;2- I passed the river yesterday.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;.................&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;We can also use &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;the simple past tense&lt;/FONT&gt; with&lt;FONT color=#deb887&gt; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;the past cotinuous tense&lt;/FONT&gt; as these sentences:&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;1- &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;The teacher was giving us a lesson&lt;/FONT&gt; when &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;a little dog walked into the room&lt;/FONT&gt;.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;2 -&lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt; While we were having supper&lt;/FONT&gt;,all &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;the lights went out&lt;/FONT&gt;.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;3- All &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;the lights went out&lt;/FONT&gt; while &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;we were having supper&lt;/FONT&gt;.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;4 - &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;Hrry did his homework&lt;/FONT&gt; while &lt;FONT color=#ff0000&gt;the other boys were playing football.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;Ok&amp;nbsp;, what is the problem If &amp;nbsp;I say :&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;1- The teacher gave us a lesson when a little dog walked into the room.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;2- &lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;While we&amp;nbsp; had supper,all the lights went out.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000 size=4&gt;3- All the lights went out while we had supper.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000 size=4&gt;4 - Hrry did his homework while the other boys played football.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;..................&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;&lt;FONT size=6&gt;W&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT size=4&gt;hen to use the simple past tense and when to use the present cotinuous tense&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT size=6&gt;?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Present Tense</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PresentTense/chqkq/post.htm#206243</link><pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 01:45:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:206243</guid><dc:creator>paco2004</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Anonymous wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;Hello, I am studying about the Present Tense.&amp;nbsp;I already know that Simple Present can be used to express a fact at the present or a present habit. But my teacher says that sometimes the present tense can be used with future or past meaning and that the Simple Present also have some other usage. Help me for I am feeling confused now.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Hi&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;As Mademoiselle Anne well explained about uses of the present&amp;nbsp;for future events, I'll explain about those&amp;nbsp;for past events.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;1) Historic (Fictional) Present : &lt;BR&gt;When people narrate some story about past events,  they &lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"&gt;sometimes&lt;/FONT&gt; use the present to make the story sound more vivid. It is also found in news bulletins. &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;(EX) Fire hits a city center building. The government defends the new minister, and in football Manchester United lose.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;2) Live Commentary :&lt;BR&gt;When you heard something on TV, you can tell it to other person in the present tense if you believe what was broadcast is still true &amp;nbsp;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;(EX) The ten o'clock news says that there's going to be a bad storm&lt;/FONT&gt;.&lt;BR&gt;3) Book's saying:&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;(EX) Shakespeare says "All the world is a stage"&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;paco&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Tenses</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Tenses/bdkdp/post.htm</link><pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2005 16:29:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:101216</guid><dc:creator>donoenglish</dc:creator><description>would like to ask in a conversation between 3 people rite...is this wrong? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Andy: Im not going to play football &lt;br /&gt;Mitchel : Oh ok &lt;br /&gt;William : You said your not going to football i dont want to see you there. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Should the said be say? or..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;help me to differentiate between present and past tense how come sometimes when we talk about the past we can use present tense :S</description></item><item><title>Clarification needed on tense and past participles</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ClarificationNeededTensePast-Participles/phgd/post.htm</link><pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2005 17:18:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:75823</guid><dc:creator>edward</dc:creator><description>The sentence "your body is relaxed" - "is" is present tense of the verb "to be", right? And is 'relaxed' the past participle?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, the sentence "the restaurant staff played football against the customers" - what type of words are 'restaurant' and 'staff'. 'Staff' is a noun, right? And 'restaurant' is an adverb, or what??&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Please can you help clarify.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks</description></item><item><title>Re: Summary</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Summary/9/pzqn/Post.htm#75425</link><pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2005 05:26:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:75425</guid><dc:creator>just the truth</dc:creator><description>CJ:&lt;br /&gt;1. He was crazy to climb up into that tree. He [might / *may] have fallen and broken his neck! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is what I say if I know he did not fall. If I already know he did not fall, the acquisition of that knowledge must have happened in the past. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;JTT: I have to ask for the reasons you exclude 'may' in sentence 1. Tendencies to choose one form over another are not very good proof that a form is past or present tense. When one encounters such contradictions, it might be wise to consider that there are other reasons, possibly semantic/pragmatic differences.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, note that purported past tense 'might' just can't do it without 'have + PP', ie. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1a. *He was crazy to climb up into that tree. He might fall and break his neck! *&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why is this, when you state that it's a past tense?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;============================================&lt;br /&gt;CJ:&lt;br /&gt;2. "He may have fallen and broken his neck" &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;can only be used to mean something entirely different. In the following, no such acquisition of knowledge took place before the utterance of these sentences. It's pure speculation in the present. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He's all bandaged up and wearing a neck brace. He [may / might] have fallen and broken his neck. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;JTT: "in the present", Jim? What is "in the present" and why is it "in the present"? Isn't sentence 1 also "in the present". &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;CJ:&lt;br /&gt;This is evidence for my point that the "past forms" of the modals can be 'borrowed' into the present point of view, but the "present forms" of the modals cannot be 'borrowed' into the past point of view. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;JTT: That seems illogical on its face. I think you're going to have to revise your point rather drastically, Jim. How about the following?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;a. You will have already read this. &lt;br /&gt;---------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;b. http://www.ci.lake-havasu-city.az.us/Lake_Havasu_City/Title_1/04/210.html&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Chapter 1.04 GENERAL PROVISIONS&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Section 1.04.210 Shall have been, defined.&lt;br /&gt;The words "shall have been" include past and future cases.&lt;br /&gt;-----------&lt;br /&gt;Or this from Abraham Lincoln;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;c. The Emancipation Proclamation&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The persons excepted from the benefits of the foregoing provisions are all who are, or shall have been, civil or diplomatic officers or agents of the so-called Confederate government;&lt;br /&gt;----------------&lt;br /&gt;d. as you call any story that is invented; for whatever I shall tell you I shall have seen with my own eyes or heard with my own ears ...&lt;br /&gt;-----------------------&lt;br /&gt;e. You will have heard that the grand old man of football Brian ...&lt;br /&gt;----------------------&lt;br /&gt;f. [stick in any past will/shall structure you choose and Google will give you hundreds of examples of 'will' and 'shall' operating in the past.&lt;br /&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Tenseless modals?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TenselessModals/3/pzvd/Post.htm#75211</link><pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2005 07:55:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:75211</guid><dc:creator>just the truth</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;1a. That's not the man I married, these days he will sit &lt;br /&gt;in front of the telly for hours watching football. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1b. At the beginning of our relationship, he would write some romantic letters for me, &lt;br /&gt;he would send me flowers every day. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3a. I can swim the distance of 400m in 90 seconds! &lt;br /&gt;3b. As a teenager I could swim the distance of 400m in 90 seconds!&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;JTT: {Korin, please go to the "Can/Could &amp; Will/Would" thread for a discussion on these examples. You are more than welcome to move them there if you'd like.}&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;Korin examples:&lt;br /&gt;2a. I'm afraid we have to hail a cab, the engine won't start. &lt;br /&gt;2b. I got into the car but the engine wouldn't start so I had to hail a cab. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As you can see, within the verb groups contaning modals, it is only the modals &lt;br /&gt;that are marked for the category of tense. Hence, the relationship between &lt;br /&gt;1a will - 1b would, 2a will not - 2b would not,etc. seems that of tense. &lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;JTT: It does seems that way, doesn't it, Korin? But what of the millions upon millions of other sentences, like, &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;1."She might go." OR 2. "You should take an aspirin" OR 3. "They would do that" OR 4."I could go to the library".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Are these also "marked for the category of tense"? If so, and because all are marked by "past tense" modals, we have a contradiction that goes deep, for none of the meanings in 1,2,3 or 4, are past tense or past time. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's look more closely at your examples.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2a. I'm afraid we have to hail a cab, the engine won't start. &lt;br /&gt;2b. I got into the car but the engine wouldn't start so I had to hail a cab. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For the sake of this argument, ie. this context, I'm going to assume that 2a and 2b refer to the same incident.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Number 2b is a report of the incident that occured in 2a. Since the backshifting that occurs in indirect reported speech doesn't necessarily convey a past meaning, this 'wouldn't' is not reflective of a past situation. It is merely reflective of a reporting situation. Take it a step further and this becomes clear.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;--------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bill: [to Bonnie, his date] I'm afraid we have to hail a cab, the engine won't start.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bonnie: Okay, let's get out of here. [takes a taxi and drops B at home]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bill: [reporting to his father] I got into the car but the engine wouldn't start so I had to hail a cab. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Father: Let's go back and get the car.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bill: I tell you Dad, it won't start.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;---------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The condition of the car, as expressed by this one person, Bill, is that the car won't start. It is merely the modal emotive feeling of this person. It doesn't necessarily speak to the actual truth of the situation. It's merely Bill's opinion. Bill can, according to the REAL rules governing reported speech choose either a  or a .&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bill: {tried the car; it won't start. Phones his father} Hi Dad, it's me. The car won't start. I triED everything and it won't start. {or "I've triED ..." for BrE speakers}&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now remember, Bill is away from the car, the attempts at starting it have finished, yet he can use "won't". This ability to shift back and forth between  and  points to this not being a REAL past tense. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That English allows a singular modal to operate in past tense/time, present tense/time and future tense/time situations clearly indicates that these modals are tenseless.</description></item></channel></rss>