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Re: adjective or adverbial

Pioussoul — Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:48:23 GMT

Anonymous wrote:
Pioussoul wrote:
Kilimanjaro wrote:
Pioussoul wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

His family, who had gone to Egypt last summer, decided to go to Spain this summer.

A) His family, having gone to Egypt last summer, decided to go to Spain this summer.

1. I don't think we can reduce Non-defining relative clauses. In speech yes, It does not matter because of a whiz-deletion.But in Written English Non-defining relative pronouns (with comma on both sides), cannot be reduced. Only definings are reducable.

2. Can the Past Participle (Having done) post modify a noun? No I don't think so!

I'll be more than pleased if you prove me if I am wrong.

Hi, Anonymous, I don't see any problems with the lines in green. Here are more illustrations from a grammar book for your reference:

1. Seeing the cat, the mouse ran off.

2. The mouse, seeing the cat, ran off.

3. The mouse ran off, seeing the cat.

The above are rather strictly written English sentences for me; I wonder if they sound the same to you.

Btw, would you please login so that we may greet you correctly.

Hello Pioussoul,

Your sentences are not "reduced relative clause" they are "adverbial clause". The "Participles" don't define any preceding noun.

So, you're the anonymous, kilimanjaro, right?

First, my sentences are indeed "reduced from a relative clause", here is my reason. Sentence 2 derives from 2a:

2a. The mouse, which saw the cat, ran off.

Now, do you agree that the words highlighted in blue is a non-restrictive relative clause, which is used as an adjective postmodying the mouse?

Second, maybe you were not aware of the fact that a participial construction can serve both as an adjective and an adverb. Please refer to your grammar books on the participial construction, and after that, it's possible that we may go on our discussion.

Hello Pioussoul,

"What is the difference between a reduced relatice clause" and "participial construction". I'm still thumbing through the pages and couln't yet find a section where it says "Participles" are "reduced relative clauses"

[pioussoul]:

Well, because you're pressed for time, I'd explain it concisely--a participial construction is actually reduced from a few different clauses, inclusive of an adjectival relative clause. There is no such term as a reduced relative clause.

Can you tell me which option is the restatement of the following sentence in bold.

The British Ambassador to Paris, making his first public speech as ambassador yesterday, said that the destines of France and Britain were indissolubly linked.

1-The British Ambassador to Paris, who made his first public speech as ambassador yesterday, said that the destines of France and Britain were indissolubly linked.

2-The British Ambassador to Paris, after making his first public speech as ambassador yesterday, said that the destines of France and Britain were indissolubly linked.

3-The British Ambassador to Paris, having made/making his first public speech as ambassador yesterday, said that the destines of France and Britain were indissolubly linked.

All of them are all possible. Because you're in a hurry, I'll post this right now. Talk to you later.

Re: adjective or adverbial

Pioussoul — Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:08:22 GMT

Anonymous wrote:
Pioussoul wrote:
Kilimanjaro wrote:
Pioussoul wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

His family, who had gone to Egypt last summer, decided to go to Spain this summer.

A) His family, having gone to Egypt last summer, decided to go to Spain this summer.

1. I don't think we can reduce Non-defining relative clauses. In speech yes, It does not matter because of a whiz-deletion.But in Written English Non-defining relative pronouns (with comma on both sides), cannot be reduced. Only definings are reducable.

2. Can the Past Participle (Having done) post modify a noun? No I don't think so!

I'll be more than pleased if you prove me if I am wrong.

Hi, Anonymous, I don't see any problems with the lines in green. Here are more illustrations from a grammar book for your reference:

1. Seeing the cat, the mouse ran off.

2. The mouse, seeing the cat, ran off.

3. The mouse ran off, seeing the cat.

The above are rather strictly written English sentences for me; I wonder if they sound the same to you.

Btw, would you please login so that we may greet you correctly.

Hello Pioussoul,

Your sentences are not "reduced relative clause" they are "adverbial clause". The "Participles" don't define any preceding noun.

So, you're the anonymous, kilimanjaro, right?

First, my sentences are indeed "reduced from a relative clause", here is my reason. Sentence 2 derives from 2a:

2a. The mouse, which saw the cat, ran off.

Now, do you agree that the words highlighted in blue is a non-restrictive relative clause, which is used as an adjective postmodying the mouse?

Second, maybe you were not aware of the fact that a participial construction can serve both as an adjective and an adverb. Please refer to your grammar books on the participial construction, and after that, it's possible that we may go on our discussion.

Hello Pioussoul,

"What is the difference between a reduced relatice clause" and "participial construction". I'm still thumbing through the pages and couln't yet find a section where it says "Participles" are "reduced relative clauses"

Can you tell me which option is the restatement of the following sentence in bold.

The British Ambassador to Paris, making his first public speech as ambassador yesterday, said that the destines of France and Britain were indissolubly linked.

1-The British Ambassador to Paris, who made his first public speech as ambassador yesterday, said that the destines of France and Britain were indissolubly linked.

2-The British Ambassador to Paris, after making his first public speech as ambassador yesterday, said that the destines of France and Britain were indissolubly linked.

3-The British Ambassador to Paris, having made his first public speech as ambassador yesterday, said that the destines of France and Britain were indissolubly linked.

Hi, anonymous, I'm glad to answer your question, but I'm not used to talking to someone without a name. By the way, do you have an alias?

Re: adjective or adverbial

Anonymous — Fri, 09 Feb 2007 12:50:24 GMT

Pioussoul wrote:
Kilimanjaro wrote:
Pioussoul wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

His family, who had gone to Egypt last summer, decided to go to Spain this summer.

A) His family, having gone to Egypt last summer, decided to go to Spain this summer.

1. I don't think we can reduce Non-defining relative clauses. In speech yes, It does not matter because of a whiz-deletion.But in Written English Non-defining relative pronouns (with comma on both sides), cannot be reduced. Only definings are reducable.

2. Can the Past Participle (Having done) post modify a noun? No I don't think so!

I'll be more than pleased if you prove me if I am wrong.

Hi, Anonymous, I don't see any problems with the lines in green. Here are more illustrations from a grammar book for your reference:

1. Seeing the cat, the mouse ran off.

2. The mouse, seeing the cat, ran off.

3. The mouse ran off, seeing the cat.

The above are rather strictly written English sentences for me; I wonder if they sound the same to you.

Btw, would you please login so that we may greet you correctly.

Hello Pioussoul,

Your sentences are not "reduced relative clause" they are "adverbial clause". The "Participles" don't define any preceding noun.

So, you're the anonymous, kilimanjaro, right?

First, my sentences are indeed "reduced from a relative clause", here is my reason. Sentence 2 derives from 2a:

2a. The mouse, which saw the cat, ran off.

Now, do you agree that the words highlighted in blue is a non-restrictive relative clause, which is used as an adjective postmodying the mouse?

Second, maybe you were not aware of the fact that a participial construction can serve both as an adjective and an adverb. Please refer to your grammar books on the participial construction, and after that, it's possible that we may go on our discussion.

Hello Pioussoul,

"What is the difference between a reduced relatice clause" and "participial construction". I'm still thumbing through the pages and couln't yet find a section where it says "Participles" are "reduced relative clauses"

Can you tell me which option is the restatement of the following sentence in bold.

The British Ambassador to Paris, making his first public speech as ambassador yesterday, said that the destines of France and Britain were indissolubly linked.

1-The British Ambassador to Paris, who made his first public speech as ambassador yesterday, said that the destines of France and Britain were indissolubly linked.

2-The British Ambassador to Paris, after making his first public speech as ambassador yesterday, said that the destines of France and Britain were indissolubly linked.

3-The British Ambassador to Paris, having made his first public speech as ambassador yesterday, said that the destines of France and Britain were indissolubly linked.

Re: adjective or adverbial

Pioussoul — Fri, 09 Feb 2007 12:17:08 GMT

Kilimanjaro wrote:
Pioussoul wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

His family, who had gone to Egypt last summer, decided to go to Spain this summer.

A) His family, having gone to Egypt last summer, decided to go to Spain this summer.

1. I don't think we can reduce Non-defining relative clauses. In speech yes, It does not matter because of a whiz-deletion.But in Written English Non-defining relative pronouns (with comma on both sides), cannot be reduced. Only definings are reducable.

2. Can the Past Participle (Having done) post modify a noun? No I don't think so!

I'll be more than pleased if you prove me if I am wrong.

Hi, Anonymous, I don't see any problems with the lines in green. Here are more illustrations from a grammar book for your reference:

1. Seeing the cat, the mouse ran off.

2. The mouse, seeing the cat, ran off.

3. The mouse ran off, seeing the cat.

The above are rather strictly written English sentences for me; I wonder if they sound the same to you.

Btw, would you please login so that we may greet you correctly.

Hello Pioussoul,

Your sentences are not "reduced relative clause" they are "adverbial clause". The "Participles" don't define any preceding noun.

So, you're the anonymous, kilimanjaro, right?

First, my sentences are indeed "reduced from a relative clause", here is my reason. Sentence 2 derives from 2a:

2a. The mouse, which saw the cat, ran off.

Now, do you agree that the words highlighted in blue is a non-restrictive relative clause, which is used as an adjective postmodying the mouse?

Second, maybe you were not aware of the fact that a participial construction can serve both as an adjective and an adverb. Please refer to your grammar books on the participial construction, and after that, it's possible that we may go on our discussion.

Re: adjective or adverbial

Kilimanjaro — Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:53:06 GMT

Pioussoul wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

His family, who had gone to Egypt last summer, decided to go to Spain this summer.

A) His family, having gone to Egypt last summer, decided to go to Spain this summer.

1. I don't think we can reduce Non-defining relative clauses. In speech yes, It does not matter because of a whiz-deletion.But in Written English Non-defining relative pronouns (with comma on both sides), cannot be reduced. Only definings are reducable.

2. Can the Past Participle (Having done) post modify a noun? No I don't think so!

I'll be more than pleased if you prove me if I am wrong.

Hi, Anonymous, I don't see any problems with the lines in green. Here are more illustrations from a grammar book for your reference:

1. Seeing the cat, the mouse ran off.

2. The mouse, seeing the cat, ran off.

3. The mouse ran off, seeing the cat.

The above are rather strictly written English sentences for me; I wonder if they sound the same to you.

Btw, would you please login so that we may greet you correctly.

Hello Pioussoul,

Your sentences are not "reduced relative clause" they are "adverbial clause". The "Participles" don't define any preceding noun.

Re: adjective or adverbial

Pioussoul — Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:45:04 GMT

Anonymous wrote:

His family, who had gone to Egypt last summer, decided to go to Spain this summer.

A) His family, having gone to Egypt last summer, decided to go to Spain this summer.

1. I don't think we can reduce Non-defining relative clauses. In speech yes, It does not matter because of a whiz-deletion.But in Written English Non-defining relative pronouns (with comma on both sides), cannot be reduced. Only definings are reducable.

2. Can the Past Participle (Having done) post modify a noun? No I don't think so!

I'll be more than pleased if you prove me if I am wrong.

Hi, Anonymous, I don't see any problems with the lines in green. Here are more illustrations from a grammar book for your reference:

1. Seeing the cat, the mouse ran off.

2. The mouse, seeing the cat, ran off.

3. The mouse ran off, seeing the cat.

The above are rather strictly written English sentences for me; I wonder if they sound the same to you.

Btw, would you please login so that we may greet you correctly.

how or what?

Anonymous — Tue, 05 Dec 2006 22:16:27 GMT

Hello, everybody.

One of my many doubts... :-(

Is there any rule I can follow in choosing "how" as an interrogative pronoun?

i.e. 1. How (or what?) do you say *** in English?

2. How (or what?) do you pronounce *** in English?

I learnt to say "What do you call ***...?" but it still sounds me strange (or strangely?? ), because in Italian the interrogative form with "how" can be answered by both nouns and adverbs.

ps. I'm not anonymus... where do I have to login??