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Re: Is it like d-oy-lee?

Jackson6612 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:08:06 GMT

CalifJim
The hyphens make it seem like it is being shown to have three syllables. Yet d alone can't make a syllable, unless it's pronounced as when we say the name of the letter D. Consequently, I still don't understand the answer.
So is it dee-oil-lee or doy-lee? Three or two syllables?

Yet d alone can't make a syllable
Why can't it make a syllable by itself?

...unless it's pronounced as when we say the name of the letter D
Of course, you will pronounce it as you pronounce the letter D. What other way is there to pronounce it otherwise?

In my suggested pronunciation I intended to use three syllables.

Best wishes, Jackson

Re: Compounds with "non": hyphen or no hyphen?

Anonymous — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:48:28 GMT

I'm afraid that in British English the rule *is* different. We do indeed tend to use hyphens after the prefix "non-" (which avoids the possibility of mispronouncing words such as "nonnative" ["non-native" in BrE]).

As regards other prefixes, "pre-" and "co-" still sometimes take a hyphen (particularly where the second part of the word starts with a vowel and could lead to an erroneous pronunciation, e.g. pre-empt, co-opted). According to the Oxford English Dictionary, "micro-organism" is also the preferred form, for similar reasons.

Re: 7 or 8 letters :-)

Yankee — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:57:46 GMT

Kooyeen wrote:
And I'm 100% sure that if I know it, I definitely don't know it can be spelled two ways.
Kooyeen, you have (at least) one of these too!

I guess we should focus on that. We said it's not a difference between BrE and AmE, so not "ou" spellings. Tanit asked if it's a hyphen that makes a difference. No -- no hyphen.

I would ask if it is actually just a simple difference in spelling and not in pronunciation (ex: progam (AmE) / programme(BrE)) or if it's a completely different way to write it and pronounce it, but both words can be used to express the same concept... like account (7 letters) and username (8 letters). One spelling has a C, the other doesn't. Otherwise, the spelling is the same.

Re: 7 or 8 letters :-)

Kooyeen — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:19:04 GMT

Yankee wrote:

Kooyeen, you should be able to get this one. I'm 100% sure you've seen the word recently.

And I'm 100% sure that if I know it, I definitely don't know it can be spelled two ways.

I guess we should focus on that. We said it's not a difference between BrE and AmE, so not "ou" spellings. Tanit asked if it's a hyphen that makes a difference.

I would ask if it is actually just a simple difference in spelling and not in pronunciation (ex: progam (AmE) / programme(BrE)) or if it's a completely different way to write it and pronounce it, but both words can be used to express the same concept... like account (7 letters) and username (8 letters).

Re: weird words... codomain, conjugate, etc.

Kooyeen — Sun, 14 Oct 2007 22:28:22 GMT

I see, thanks. I usually use Merriam-Webster online for pronunciation, but often I find some other alternative or possible pronunciations, so I never know what to choose (for words I never heard or that I'm not likely to hear, like "Pythagorean", etc.)

By the way, it's really "codomain" (no hyphen). I don't know what you are referring to, but I'm talking about the codomain of a mathematical function, and that's one word.

Re: Help! What's a syllable!

CalifJim — Sat, 02 Jun 2007 03:23:59 GMT

From www.m-w.com

syllable

1 : a unit of spoken language that is next bigger than a speech sound and consists of one or more vowel sounds alone or of a syllabic consonant alone or of either with one or more consonant sounds preceding or following
2 : one or more letters (as syl, la, and ble) in a word (as sylÂ·laÂ·ble) usually set off from the rest of the word by a centered dot or a hyphen and roughly corresponding to the syllables of spoken language and treated as helps to pronunciation or as guides to placing hyphens at the end of a line
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minimal syllable - In linguistics this is the minimum structure of sound elements that produces a syllable for a given language. In English the minimum syllable is a vowel. An example is the word "a".

I'm not sure if that's what you mean by minimal syllable.

CJ

awesome poem, that is really hard to pronounce!

Jane Greco — Wed, 09 May 2007 15:41:06 GMT

TEST YOUR SKILL

Once you've learned to correctly pronounce every word in the following poem, you will be speaking English better than 90% of the native English speakers in the world. If you find it tough going, do not despair, you are not alone.

Dearest creature in creation,
Study English pronunciation.
I will teach you in my verse
Sounds like corpse, corps, horse, and worse.
I will keep you, Suzy, busy,
Make your head with heat grow dizzy.
Tear in eye, your dress will tear.
So shall I! Oh hear my prayer.

Just compare heart, beard, and heard,
Dies and diet, lord and word,
Sword and sward, retain and Britain.
(Mind the latter, how it's written.)
Now I surely will not plague you
With such words as plaque and ague.
But be careful how you speak:
Say break and steak, but bleak and streak;
Cloven, oven, how and low,
Script, receipt, show, poem, and toe.

Hear me say, devoid of trickery,
Daughter, laughter, and Terpsichore,
Typhoid, measles, topsails, aisles,
Exiles, similes, and reviles;
Scholar, vicar, and cigar,
Solar, mica, war and far;
One, anemone, Balmoral,
Kitchen, lichen, laundry, laurel;
Gertrude, German, wind and mind,
Scene, Melpomene, mankind.

Billet does not rhyme with ballet,
Bouquet, wallet, mallet, chalet.
Blood and flood are not like food,
Nor is mould like should and would.
Viscous, viscount, load and broad,
Toward, to forward, to reward.
And your pronunciation's OK
When you correctly say croquet,
Rounded, wounded, grieve and sieve,
Friend and fiend, alive and live.

Ivy, privy, famous; clamour
And enamour rhyme with hammer.
River, rival, tomb, bomb, comb,
Doll and roll and some and home.
Stranger does not rhyme with anger,
Neither does devour with clangour.
Souls but foul, haunt but aunt,
Font, front, wont, want, grand, and grant,
Shoes, goes, does. Now first say finger,
And then singer, ginger, linger,
Real, zeal, mauve, gauze, gouge and gauge,
Marriage, foliage, mirage, and age.

Query does not rhyme with very,
Nor does fury sound like bury.
Dost, lost, post and doth, cloth, loth.
Job, nob, bosom, transom, oath.
Though the differences seem little,
We say actual but victual.
Refer does not rhyme with deafer.
Foeffer does, and zephyr, heifer.
Mint, pint, senate and sedate;
Dull, bull, and George ate late.
Scenic, Arabic, Pacific,
Science, conscience, scientific.

Liberty, library, heave and heaven,
Rachel, ache, moustache, eleven.
We say hallowed, but allowed,
People, leopard, towed, but vowed.
Mark the differences, moreover,
Between mover, cover, clover;
Leeches, breeches, wise, precise,
Chalice, but police and lice;
Camel, constable, unstable,
Principle, disciple, label.

Petal, panel, and canal,
Wait, surprise, plait, promise, pal.
Worm and storm, chaise, chaos, chair,
Senator, spectator, mayor.
Tour, but our and succour, four.
Gas, alas, and Arkansas.
Sea, idea, Korea, area,
Psalm, Maria, but malaria.
Youth, south, southern, cleanse and clean.
Doctrine, turpentine, marine.

Compare alien with Italian,
Dandelion and battalion.
Sally with ally, yea, ye,
Eye, I, ay, aye, whey, and key.
Say aver, but ever, fever,
Neither, leisure, skein, deceiver.
Heron, granary, canary.
Crevice and device and aerie.

Face, but preface, not efface.
Phlegm, phlegmatic, ass, glass, bass.
Large, but target, gin, give, verging,
Ought, out, joust and scour, scourging.
Ear, but earn and wear and tear
Do not rhyme with here but ere.
Seven is right, but so is even,
Hyphen, roughen, nephew Stephen,
Monkey, donkey, Turk and jerk,
Ask, grasp, wasp, and cork and work.

Pronunciation -- think of Psyche!
Is a paling stout and spikey?
Won't it make you lose your wits,
Writing groats and saying grits?
It's a dark abyss or tunnel:
Strewn with stones, stowed, solace, gunwale,
Islington and Isle of Wight,
Housewife, verdict and indict.

Finally, which rhymes with enough --
Though, through, plough, or dough, or cough?
Hiccough has the sound of cup.
My advice is to give up!!!

Re: prefix

rvw — Wed, 05 Oct 2005 06:48:18 GMT

There are many rules governing the writing of compounds, and many exceptions to the rules. I would say that you should always first consult a good dictionary to see if the compound has an established form. From Webster's Third New International Dictionary, here are some of the rules governing prefixes:

1. Prefixes in borrowed compounds. A hyphen is often used between duplicated vowels: co-operate, but usually the form is solid: cooperate. If the letters (vowels or consonants) are different, the word is usually solid: coalesce, coerce, collect, diagram, anarchy.

2. Prefixes in compounds formed within English. Open styling is usually not used. "Some combinations are usually close-styled (in- and un-, as in inexpressible, untenable), some are usually hyphened (ex- in ex-president), some are frequently styled either way (anti-, co-, extra, non-, pre-, semi-)." Hyphens are used to avoid vowel duplications: anti-intellectualism. Hyphens are less common if the vowels are different: deadjectival, foreoath. Solid styling is usual for junctures with consonants: nonmetallic, nonalcoholic, extralegal.

3. "When the base word begins with a capital, a hyphen is usual: un-American."

4. Some "prefixes" function as adjectives when they are open before a noun: a pseudo liberal, quasi independence.

5. Sometimes, the hyphened word has a different etymology, pronunciation, and meaning:
    recover: to get back
    re-cover: to cover again.
    recreation: play.
    re-creation: a creating again.

Re: Vice versa and cooperate

Anonymous — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:47:53 GMT

The tendency is for hyphenated words to eventually lose their hyphen (e.g. to-day, good-bye) but in the case of "cooperate" I think the retention of the hyphen is advisable, as an aid to pronunciation and understanding. To me, "cooperate" looks like the rate charged by a cooper (barrel maker) and I often read it as such.

The Chaos

buggah — Sat, 24 Jan 2004 01:42:58 GMT

Hello. Maybe you've already seen this little
poem called The Chaos on the Internet...
It's pretty useful to learn pronunciation and
rhythm. Maybe one of you could read the
it little by little, no matter if it's gonna take a
month or a year... it would be intersting.
Thank you.
Buggah

The Chaos
-- Charivarius (G. Nolst TrenitÃ©)

Dearest creature in creation,
Study English pronunciation.
I will teach you in my verse
Sounds like corpse, corps, horse, and worse.
I will keep you, Suzy, busy,
Make your head with heat grow dizzy.
Tear in eye, your dress will tear.
So shall I! Oh hear my prayer.

Just compare heart, beard, and heard,
Dies and diet, lord and word,
Sword and sward, retain and Britain.
(Mind the latter, how it's written.)
Now I surely will not plague you
With such words as plaque and ague.
But be careful how you speak:
Say break and steak, but bleak and streak;
Cloven, oven, how and low,
Script, receipt, show, poem, and toe.

Hear me say, devoid of trickery,
Daughter, laughter, and Terpsichore,
Typhoid, measles, topsails, aisles,
Exiles, similes, and reviles;
Scholar, vicar, and cigar,
Solar, mica, war and far;
One, anemone, Balmoral,
Kitchen, lichen, laundry, laurel;
Gertrude, German, wind and mind,
Scene, Melpomene, mankind.

Billet does not rhyme with ballet,
Bouquet, wallet, mallet, chalet.
Blood and flood are not like food,
Nor is mould like should and would.
Viscous, viscount, load and broad,
Toward, to forward, to reward.
And your pronunciation's OK
When you correctly say croquet,
Rounded, wounded, grieve and sieve,
Friend and fiend, alive and live.

Ivy, privy, famous; clamour
And enamour rhyme with hammer.
River, rival, tomb, bomb, comb,
Doll and roll and some and home.
Stranger does not rhyme with anger,
Neither does devour with clangour.
Souls but foul, haunt but aunt,
Font, front, wont, want, grand, and grant,
Shoes, goes, does. Now first say finger,
And then singer, ginger, linger,
Real, zeal, mauve, gauze, gouge and gauge,
Marriage, foliage, mirage, and age.

Query does not rhyme with very,
Nor does fury sound like bury.
Dost, lost, post and doth, cloth, loth.
Job, nob, bosom, transom, oath.
Though the differences seem little,
We say actual but victual.
Refer does not rhyme with deafer.
Foeffer does, and zephyr, heifer.
Mint, pint, senate and sedate;
Dull, bull, and George ate late.
Scenic, Arabic, Pacific,
Science, conscience, scientific.

Liberty, library, heave and heaven,
Rachel, ache, moustache, eleven.
We say hallowed, but allowed,
People, leopard, towed, but vowed.
Mark the differences, moreover,
Between mover, cover, clover;
Leeches, breeches, wise, precise,
Chalice, but police and lice;
Camel, constable, unstable,
Principle, disciple, label.

Petal, panel, and canal,
Wait, surprise, plait, promise, pal.
Worm and storm, chaise, chaos, chair,
Senator, spectator, mayor.
Tour, but our and succour, four.
Gas, alas, and Arkansas.
Sea, idea, Korea, area,
Psalm, Maria, but malaria.
Youth, south, southern, cleanse and clean.
Doctrine, turpentine, marine.

Compare alien with Italian,
Dandelion and battalion.
Sally with ally, yea, ye,
Eye, I, ay, aye, whey, and key.
Say aver, but ever, fever,
Neither, leisure, skein, deceiver.
Heron, granary, canary.
Crevice and device and aerie.

Face, but preface, not efface.
Phlegm, phlegmatic, ass, glass, bass.
Large, but target, gin, give, verging,
Ought, out, joust and scour, scourging.
Ear, but earn and wear and tear
Do not rhyme with here but ere.
Seven is right, but so is even,
Hyphen, roughen, nephew Stephen,
Monkey, donkey, Turk and jerk,
Ask, grasp, wasp, and cork and work.

Pronunciation -- think of Psyche!
Is a paling stout and spikey?
Won't it make you lose your wits,
Writing groats and saying grits?
It's a dark abyss or tunnel:
Strewn with stones, stowed, solace, gunwale,
Islington and Isle of Wight,
Housewife, verdict and indict.

Finally, which rhymes with enough --
Though, through, plough, or dough, or cough?
Hiccough has the sound of cup.
My advice is to give up!!!

Search results for 'tag:Pronunciation tag:Hyphens' matching tags 'Pronunciation' and 'Hyphens'

Re: Is it like d-oy-lee?

Re: Compounds with &quot;non&quot;: hyphen or no hyphen?

Re: 7 or 8 letters :-)

Re: 7 or 8 letters :-)

Re: weird words... codomain, conjugate, etc.

Re: Help! What's a syllable!

awesome poem, that is really hard to pronounce!

Re: prefix

Re: Vice versa and cooperate

The Chaos

Re: Compounds with "non": hyphen or no hyphen?