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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Relative pronouns tag:Articles' matching tags 'Relative pronouns' and 'Articles'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aRelative+pronouns+tag%3aArticles&amp;tag=Relative+pronouns,Articles&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Relative pronouns tag:Articles' matching tags 'Relative pronouns' and 'Articles'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3191.21962)</generator><item><title>Sentence combining using dependent(relative) clause</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/SentenceCombiningUsingDependent-RelativeClause/gngcd/post.htm</link><pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:14:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:566766</guid><dc:creator>Raen</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Here is a practice:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Q: A minute passed in complete silence. Terri announced her wedding plans then.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wrote: &lt;font color="#000080"&gt;A minute passed in complete silence when Terri announced her wedding plans.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;A minute &lt;em&gt;when Terri announced her wedding plans &lt;/em&gt;passed in complete silence.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Grammar rules say: The adjective clause is used to modify a noun or a pronoun. It will begin with a relative pronoun (&lt;i&gt;who, whose, whom, which, &lt;/i&gt;and&lt;i&gt; that&lt;/i&gt;) or a subordinate conjunction (&lt;i&gt;when and&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i&gt;where&lt;/i&gt;). Those are the only words that can be used to introduce an &lt;i&gt;adjective clause&lt;/i&gt;. The introductory word will always rename the word that it follows and modifies except when used with a preposition which will come between the introductory word and the word it renames.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It seems to me the official answer is a strict product of the rules and&amp;nbsp;does not sound natural to me. If &amp;quot;when Terri announced her wedding plans&amp;quot; is to highlight/modify&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;minute&amp;quot; (as the&amp;nbsp;grammar rule indicates), shouldn&amp;#39;t the article &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; be a definite &amp;quot;The&amp;quot; specifying the&amp;nbsp;time in a period of ONE MINUTE when the wedding plans were announced?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;I just thought the length of time (a minute) was more of a figurative speech when the silence occured as a result of Terri&amp;#39;s announcing her wedding plans not the precise minute that it took to announce her wedding plans. Any thoughts? Thanks a lot.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Raen&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: The difference between 'who' and 'whom'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferenceBetweenWhom/4/grxgd/Post.htm#505277</link><pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:01:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:505277</guid><dc:creator>26TMNTJG2PG</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;I just joined this Forum a few days ago. I do not know what I going to tell you is still relevant.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have come across an article &lt;a href="http://kengtpenangenglish.blogspot.com/2008/02/who-or-whom-relative-pronouns.html"&gt;&amp;quot;Who&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Whom&amp;quot; (relative pronouns)&lt;/a&gt;, careful perusal and digestion of which may be of great help.&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: i need help from grammar experts</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/GrammarExperts/znjlh/post.htm#484269</link><pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 04:31:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:484269</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;a.Noun. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;b.Relative pronoun&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;c.Article&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;d.Regular adjective&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;e.Pronominal adjective&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;f.Regular adverb&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;g.Preposition â single word &lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;h.Preposition â group of words&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;I.Conjunction â single-word co-ordinate&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;j.Conjunction - subordinate&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;k.Verbal - gerund&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;l.Verbal - infinitive&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;m.Appositive&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;n.Expletive&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;o.Predicate - smiple&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;p.Complete subject&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taking a correspondence course involves a great amount of self-discipline on the part of the student. &lt;br /&gt;When
someone studies at home, there are always distractions to overcome:
telephone calls from friends, favourite soap operas on TV, or sunny
days beckoning outside the window. People who need to interact with
their teacher on a daily basis may not wish to study a course on their
own. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, there are also definite advantages to
studying âby mail.â A student may progress as rapidly as he or she
wants to, instead of moving along at the same pace as a classroom full
of people. A few missing high school credits can be picked up quickly,
so the need to spend an extra year in school is eliminated.
Instructors, or markers, are available to answer questions by telephone
or e-mail. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here are some of my answers: ( I&amp;#39;m having a tough time with this exercise... I need some help)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;a.Noun. : home, window&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;b.Relative pronoun: &lt;font color="#00"&gt;who &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;c.Article: &lt;font color="#00"&gt;a &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;d.Regular adjective: &lt;font color="#00"&gt;sunny&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;e.Pronominal adjective:&amp;nbsp; &lt;font color="#00"&gt;their&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;f.Regular adverb: &lt;font color="#00"&gt;quickly&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;g.Preposition â single word : &lt;font color="#00"&gt;on, from &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;h.Preposition â group of words:&lt;font color="#00"&gt; on the part of/instead of&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;I.Conjunction â single-word co-ordinate: &lt;font color="#00"&gt;so, and, or&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;j.Conjunction â subordinate: &lt;font color="#00"&gt;when&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;k.Verbal â gerund : &lt;font color="#00"&gt;taking/studying&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;l.Verbal â infinitive: &lt;font color="#00"&gt;to spend, to answer, to study&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;m.Appositive: &lt;font color="#00"&gt;telephone calls from friends, favourite soap operas&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;n.Expletive: &lt;font color="#00"&gt;there (and it ) , there (are also) &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;o.Predicate â smiple: &lt;font color="#00"&gt;involves a great amount of self discipline&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;p.Complete subject: &lt;font color="#00"&gt;Taking a correspondence course&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Hope this helps,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Visnja&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>i need help from grammar experts </title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/GrammarExperts/znwrw/post.htm</link><pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 22:21:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:483794</guid><dc:creator>market-huxley</dc:creator><description>&lt;div id="post_message_2113569"&gt;I&amp;#39;m taking a correspondence course. These are some of the exercises that I need to submit. So please I need help from grammar exerperts thanks. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;Question 2 : In the following paragraphs, find one example of each of the parts of the sentence listed below. Lable each example clearly. You will have a total of 16 items listed as examples. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;a.Noun. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;b.Relative pronoun&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;c.Article&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;d.Regular adjective&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;e.Pronominal adjective&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;f.Regular adverb&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;g.Preposition â single word &lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;h.Preposition â group of words&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;I.Conjunction â single-word co-ordinate&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;j.Conjunction - subordinate&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;k.Verbal - gerund&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;l.Verbal - infinitive&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;m.Appositive&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;n.Expletive&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;o.Predicate - smiple&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;p.Complete subject&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Taking a correspondence course involves a great amount of self-discipline on the part of the student. &lt;br /&gt;When someone studies at home, there are always distractions to overcome: telephone calls from friends, favourite soap operas on TV, or sunny days beckoning outside the window. People who need to interact with their teacher on a daily basis may not wish to study a course on their own. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, there are also definite advantages to studying âby mail.â A student may progress as rapidly as he or she wants to, instead of moving along at the same pace as a classroom full of people. A few missing high school credits can be picked up quickly, so the need to spend an extra year in school is eliminated. Instructors, or markers, are available to answer questions by telephone or e-mail. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here are some of my answers: ( I&amp;#39;m having a tough time with this exercise... I need some help)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;a.Noun. : home, window&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;b.Relative pronoun: &lt;font color="#00"&gt;who (?)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;c.Article: &lt;font color="#00"&gt;a &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;d.Regular adjective: &lt;font color="#00"&gt;sunny (?)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;e.Pronominal adjective: &lt;font color="#00"&gt;(?)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;f.Regular adverb: &lt;font color="#00"&gt;quickly&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;g.Preposition â single word : &lt;font color="#00"&gt;on (the part of the student) from (friends)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;h.Preposition â group of words: &lt;font color="#00"&gt;full of , on the part of (?)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;I.Conjunction â single-word co-ordinate: &lt;font color="#00"&gt;(?)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;j.Conjunction â subordinate: &lt;font color="#00"&gt;(?)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;k.Verbal â gerund : &lt;font color="#00"&gt;beckoning , taking, (?)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;l.Verbal â infinitive: &lt;font color="#00"&gt;to spend, to answer, to study&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;m.Appositive: (&lt;font color="#00"&gt;?) (?)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;n.Expletive: &lt;font color="#00"&gt;there (and it ) , there (are also) &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;o.Predicate â smiple: &lt;font color="#00"&gt;involves&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#ff00"&gt;p.Complete subject: &lt;font color="#00"&gt;(instructors, or markers ) (?)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font color="#00"&gt;How are my answers , and what would be the missing ones.. thanks&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: One of the ... that ...</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/OneOfTheThat/vxprp/post.htm#407216</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:37:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:407216</guid><dc:creator>Zj.frank</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Tanit wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;

Hi, good question!&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;

I was wandering whether a slightly different point of view exists as for the &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&lt;b&gt;subject &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt;of the sentence:&lt;br&gt;

He is &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&lt;b&gt;one &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt;[of the few] that &lt;b&gt;knows &lt;/b&gt;the solution to the problem.&lt;br&gt;

or&lt;br&gt;

He is &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&lt;b&gt;one of the few&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt; that &lt;b&gt;know &lt;/b&gt;the solution to the problem.&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;

After some research, I came across &lt;a href="http://www.bartleby.com/64/C001/043.html#ONE" target="_blank" title="http://www.bartleby.com/64/C001/043.html#ONE"&gt; this: &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;



&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&lt;b&gt;"one of
those who&lt;/b&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Constructions such as &lt;i&gt;one of
those people who&lt;/i&gt; pose a different problem. Many people argue that &lt;i&gt;who &lt;/i&gt;should be
followed by a plural verb in these sentences, as in &lt;i&gt;He is one of those people
who just donât take ânoâ for an answer&lt;/i&gt;. Their thinking is that the relative
pronoun &lt;i&gt;who &lt;/i&gt;refers to the &lt;i&gt;plural &lt;/i&gt;noun people, not to &lt;i&gt;one&lt;/i&gt;. They would extend the
rule to constructions with inanimate nouns, as in &lt;i&gt;The sports car turned out to
be one of the most successful products that were ever manufactured in this
country&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;



&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&amp;nbsp;But the use of the singular verb in these
constructions is common, even among the best writers. In an earlier survey, 42
percent of the Usage Panel accepted the use of the singular verb in such
constructions. Itâs really a matter of which word you feel is most appropriate
as the antecedent of the relative pronounâ &lt;i&gt;one &lt;/i&gt;or the plural noun in the of
phrase that follows it. Note also that when the phrase containing &lt;i&gt;one &lt;/i&gt;is
introduced by the definite article, the verb in the relative clause must be
singular: &lt;i&gt;He is the only one of the students who has (not have) already taken
Latin.&lt;b&gt;"&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;For what it's worth, heere are the Google search results for
&lt;a href="http://www.google.it/search?num=100&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;rlz=1B2GGFB_enIT228IT228&amp;amp;q=%22one+of+the+few+that%22+site%3Abbc.co.uk&amp;amp;btnG=Search" target="_blank" title="http://www.google.it/search?num=100&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;rlz=1B2GGFB_enIT228IT228&amp;amp;q=%22one+of+the+few+that%22+site%3Abbc.co.uk&amp;amp;btnG=Search"&gt;&lt;br&gt;
"one of the few of that" &lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.google.it/search?num=100&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;rlz=1B2GGFB_enIT228IT228&amp;amp;q=%22one+of+the+few+that%22+site%3Abbc.co.uk&amp;amp;btnG=Search" target="_blank" title="http://www.google.it/search?num=100&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;rlz=1B2GGFB_enIT228IT228&amp;amp;q=%22one+of+the+few+that%22+site%3Abbc.co.uk&amp;amp;btnG=Search"&gt;&lt;br&gt;

"one of the few of who" &lt;/a&gt; in the BBC website only. If you consider
only sentences in simple present , you will find both "have" and "has",
"do" and "does" and so on.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks, Tanit! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was writing my previous reply while you posted this one.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The link you provided is really useful.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: One of the ... that ...</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/OneOfTheThat/vxprr/post.htm#407201</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:18:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:407201</guid><dc:creator>Tanit</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Zj.frank wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;Dear all:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
He is one of the few that &lt;b&gt;knows &lt;/b&gt;the solution to the problem.&lt;br&gt;
or&lt;br&gt;
He is one of the few that &lt;b&gt;know &lt;/b&gt;the solution to the problem.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Do
the two "that"s denote different things? Shall we say that the first
"that" denotes "he" while the second "that" denotes "the few"? If so,
do the two sentences have slightly different meanings?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
It seems that the first sentence is more often used. Here is an example from &amp;lt;&lt;font size="-1"&gt;http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/films/int/1mm/gluttony/-/films/oneminutemovies/watch/snowball.shtml?gluttony.shtml&amp;gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;hr&gt;&lt;font size="-1"&gt;This is the best film on here... and &lt;b&gt;one of the few that bothers &lt;/b&gt;with any sense of narrative and character.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;hr&gt;Surely
there are a few films that bother with some sense of narrative and
character. Is it to say that in such case, we usually use "that
bothers" rather than "that bother"? Thanks in advance for any
enlightenment!&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;

Hi, good question!&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;

I was wandering whether a slightly different point of view exists as for the &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&lt;b&gt;subject &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt;of the sentence:&lt;br&gt;

He is &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&lt;b&gt;one &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt;[of the few] that &lt;b&gt;knows &lt;/b&gt;the solution to the problem.&lt;br&gt;

or&lt;br&gt;

He is &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&lt;b&gt;one of the few&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt; that &lt;b&gt;know &lt;/b&gt;the solution to the problem.&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;

After some research, I came across &lt;a href="http://www.bartleby.com/64/C001/043.html#ONE" target="_blank" title="http://www.bartleby.com/64/C001/043.html#ONE"&gt; this: &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;



&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&lt;b&gt;"one of
those who&lt;/b&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Constructions such as &lt;i&gt;one of
those people who&lt;/i&gt; pose a different problem. Many people argue that &lt;i&gt;who &lt;/i&gt;should be
followed by a plural verb in these sentences, as in &lt;i&gt;He is one of those people
who just donât take ânoâ for an answer&lt;/i&gt;. Their thinking is that the relative
pronoun &lt;i&gt;who &lt;/i&gt;refers to the &lt;i&gt;plural &lt;/i&gt;noun people, not to &lt;i&gt;one&lt;/i&gt;. They would extend the
rule to constructions with inanimate nouns, as in &lt;i&gt;The sports car turned out to
be one of the most successful products that were ever manufactured in this
country&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;



&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&amp;nbsp;But the use of the singular verb in these
constructions is common, even among the best writers. In an earlier survey, 42
percent of the Usage Panel accepted the use of the singular verb in such
constructions. Itâs really a matter of which word you feel is most appropriate
as the antecedent of the relative pronounâ &lt;i&gt;one &lt;/i&gt;or the plural noun in the of
phrase that follows it. Note also that when the phrase containing &lt;i&gt;one &lt;/i&gt;is
introduced by the definite article, the verb in the relative clause must be
singular: &lt;i&gt;He is the only one of the students who has (not have) already taken
Latin.&lt;b&gt;"&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;For what it's worth, heere are the Google search results for
&lt;a href="http://www.google.it/search?num=100&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;rlz=1B2GGFB_enIT228IT228&amp;amp;q=%22one+of+the+few+that%22+site%3Abbc.co.uk&amp;amp;btnG=Search" target="_blank" title="http://www.google.it/search?num=100&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;rlz=1B2GGFB_enIT228IT228&amp;amp;q=%22one+of+the+few+that%22+site%3Abbc.co.uk&amp;amp;btnG=Search"&gt;&lt;br&gt;
"one of the few of that" &lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.google.it/search?num=100&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;rlz=1B2GGFB_enIT228IT228&amp;amp;q=%22one+of+the+few+that%22+site%3Abbc.co.uk&amp;amp;btnG=Search" target="_blank" title="http://www.google.it/search?num=100&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;rlz=1B2GGFB_enIT228IT228&amp;amp;q=%22one+of+the+few+that%22+site%3Abbc.co.uk&amp;amp;btnG=Search"&gt;&lt;br&gt;

"one of the few of who" &lt;/a&gt; in the BBC website only. If you consider
only sentences in simple present , you will find both "have" and "has",
"do" and "does" and so on.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;hr&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;font color="#006400"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br&gt;EDITED: "wandering" is a typo for "wondering". My apologies.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Is it correct (Relative Clause)?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsItCorrectRelativeClause/vnczb/post.htm#398617</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:18:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:398617</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>&lt;h3 class="title"&gt;You should see &lt;a href="http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/%7Emyl/languagelog/archives/000777.html" target="_blank" title="http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/%7Emyl/languagelog/archives/000777.html"&gt;this article&lt;/a&gt; on the use of the relative pronoun "whom."&lt;br&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: such ... as</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/SuchAs/vjcvz/post.htm#378952</link><pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 09:19:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:378952</guid><dc:creator>Cool Breeze</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Anonymous wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;&lt;p&gt;He made&amp;nbsp;such a (terrible) mistake as I can't mention&amp;nbsp;here.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is the sentence correct? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, it is correct. &lt;i&gt;As&lt;/i&gt; is commonly used after &lt;i&gt;such&lt;/i&gt; as a relative pronoun / connective particle. Examples from Otto Jespersen's &lt;i&gt;Essentials of English Grammar&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;He was such a listener as most musicians would be glad to welcome.&lt;br&gt;There are such good fish in the sea as ever came out of it.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers&lt;br&gt;CB&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Trouble understanding this...</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TroubleUnderstandingThis/vczmp/post.htm</link><pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 03:20:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:345574</guid><dc:creator>SeekerOfPeace</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Right or wrong?&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;âFor a moment&lt;b&gt;&lt;sup&gt;1&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, I even thought&lt;b&gt;&lt;sup&gt;2&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/b&gt;
that this was some sort of test&lt;b&gt;&lt;sup&gt;3&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/b&gt; and that this woman was someone from
the head office&lt;b&gt;&lt;sup&gt;4&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, testing my loyalty&lt;b&gt;&lt;sup&gt;5&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.â&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1: Prepositional phrase used adverbially.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2: Main clause&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;3: Dependant clause&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;4: Dependant clause&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;5: Participial phrase&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For: preposition,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A: indefinite determinant&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Moment: noun&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I: personal pronoun, 1&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; person, &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Even: adverb, expressing surprise&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That: relative pronoun? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This: pronoun&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Was: L.V. simple past&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Some: determiner, determines âsortâ, indefinite article&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sort: noun&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Of: preposition&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Test: noun&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And: subordinating conjunction, (I thought and could only
be used as a coordinating conjunction??)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This: definite article&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Woman: noun&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Was: L.V. simple past&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Someone: indefinite pronoun&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;From: preposition, links someone and head office&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Head office: compound noun+ head used as an adjective
rather than a noun here. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Testing: present participle (verb?)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My: determiner&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Loyalty: noun&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: conjuction</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Conjuction/dppnj/post.htm#328823</link><pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:02:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:328823</guid><dc:creator>Pioussoul</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Hanuman_2000 wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hello,I was reading an article on conjuction. It says that a conjuction is a word which merely joins&amp;nbsp; words&amp;nbsp; or sentences.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It further says that relative pronouns and&amp;nbsp;relative &amp;nbsp;adverbs are also conjuctions but they do the other works also.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My doubts are:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1. Are relative pronouns and &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;some&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; adverbs a conjunction?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt; Yes, the latter are sometimes called conjunctive adverbs.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. What other works&amp;nbsp;do they do?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;-----------------&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;2a. Relative pronouns functions as a conjunction, usually connecting two clauses. For example,&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#008000&gt;[You are the person] &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;who&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; [asks such fine questions].&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;2b. As for conjunctive adverbs, they only connect the ideas of two sentences; therefore, a semi-colon is always used in the middle of&amp;nbsp;the two sentences. For instance,&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#008000&gt;[Such fine questions are complicated]&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;; consequently/as a result/therefore/thus&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;, [few people can explain them clearly].&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>