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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Simple past tag:Articles' matching tags 'Simple past' and 'Articles'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aSimple+past+tag%3aArticles&amp;tag=Simple+past,Articles&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Simple past tag:Articles' matching tags 'Simple past' and 'Articles'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3191.21962)</generator><item><title>Re: earlier in the evening</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/EarlierInTheEvening/glhlk/post.htm#557389</link><pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:32:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:557389</guid><dc:creator>Avangi</dc:creator><description>Aha!&amp;nbsp; This one is a little difficult.&amp;nbsp; Absent earlier context setting the present time,&amp;nbsp; &amp;quot;earlier in the evening&amp;quot; does two things.&amp;nbsp; It establishes that the present time is &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;"&gt;this evening&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.&amp;nbsp; And it establishes that Chavez picked the thing up at some time earlier &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;"&gt;this evening&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, I guess that&amp;#39;s a dumb way to explain it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since &amp;quot;her eyes &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;"&gt;went&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;quot; is simple past,&amp;nbsp; the &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;"&gt;evening&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; we&amp;#39;re talking about is in the simple past also.&amp;nbsp; Two things happened on that fateful evening: (first) he picked up the hold-all&amp;nbsp; (second) her eyes went to it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The main clause is in simple past, so the relative clause describing the earlier event is in past perfect.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So I should have said, it establishes that the [reference time] is &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;"&gt;that evening&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.&amp;nbsp; And it establishes that Chavez picked the thing up at some time earlier &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;"&gt;that same evening&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You may well ask how we know that both events happened on the same [simple past] evening, since the sentence doesn&amp;#39;t say so.&amp;nbsp; We just have to assume it, since there&amp;#39;s no other information.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There&amp;#39;s also the fact that the speaker chooses to use the definite article, &amp;quot;&lt;strong&gt;the&lt;/strong&gt; evening,&amp;quot; and there&amp;#39;s simply no other evening for &amp;quot;the&amp;quot; to refer to.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&amp;quot;m thinking of a Jim Webb song, &lt;em&gt;The Paper Chase: And later in the day she&amp;#39;ll be searching for a way/ To let you know she&amp;#39;s ready for your little game to end.&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp; Here again, the important thing is the use of the definite article, &amp;quot;later in &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;"&gt;the&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; day.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; It will always mean &amp;quot;that same day,&amp;quot; which may or may not have already been mentioned.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Not the day before!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sorry to go on and on.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; - A.</description></item><item><title>Re: Please suggest!</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PleaseSuggest/gcvwh/post.htm#512251</link><pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 02:05:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:512251</guid><dc:creator>Yankee</dc:creator><description>Just to summarize:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;had arrested = &lt;b&gt;past perfect&lt;/b&gt; form of the verb &amp;#39;arrest&amp;#39;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;had to = &lt;b&gt;simple past&lt;/b&gt; form of &amp;#39;have to&amp;#39;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Although it is more common to say &amp;#39;the police&amp;#39;, the word &amp;#39;police&amp;#39; is also sometime used without the definite article (&amp;#39;the&amp;#39;) -- especially in news reports.&lt;br /&gt;</description></item><item><title>Techical Report Writing</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/TechicalReportWriting/zngcw/post.htm</link><pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:09:34 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:483250</guid><dc:creator>Kaos</dc:creator><description>Hi,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Awhile ago, I asked whether one should use simple past for
describing observation of an experiment that has already been carried
out. Many adviced using simple past. I recently read an article and I
found the author (she is an American) mixed both. Here is an excerpt
from her article:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Article&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;i&gt;The first Fast Retransmit in Figure 4 results from three&lt;br /&gt;dup acks for packet 25. The second Fast Retransmit results&lt;br /&gt;from three dup acks for packet 42, the last packet transmitted&lt;br /&gt;before the first Fast Retransmit was initiated.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Because the x-axis shows the time that packets appeared&lt;br /&gt;on a link within the network, the sequence of events at the&lt;br /&gt;sender has to be inferred from the graph. After the first Fast&lt;br /&gt;Retransmit, when the sender&amp;#39;s congestion control window&lt;br /&gt;reaches four, the sender transmits packets 29-32. The sender&lt;br /&gt;receives an ACK for packet 29, and transmits packets 33 and&lt;br /&gt;34. Next the sender receives an ACK for packet 30, and&lt;br /&gt;retransmits packets 35 and 36. Finally, the sender receives&lt;br /&gt;two dup acks for packets 42 (as responses to packets 31 and&lt;br /&gt;32). At this point the congestion window is 6, and the sender&lt;br /&gt;transmits packets 43-48.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;She
was discussing about an observation which was plotted on a graph (not
shown). At first, she used simple past (in the first paragraph), and
then in the second paragraph, she started to elaborate in simple
present. Is this correct and why? I am confused now. </description></item><item><title>active\passive</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ActivePassive/zlrkd/post.htm</link><pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 12:57:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:471821</guid><dc:creator>Newguest</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Active sentence: Somebody stole my bicycle.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Passive sentence: My bicycle has been stolen.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Is the passive sentence OK, in your opinion? I would write: My bicycle was (simple past) stolen. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As far as I know if the active sentence is written in simple past than the passive one should also be written in simple past?&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;One more question. I never know whether I should write it with the definite article or not: &lt;STRONG&gt;present simple, simple present, present simple tense&lt;/STRONG&gt; etc. Should I put the&lt;STRONG&gt; "the"&lt;/STRONG&gt; before each of them or always omit it?&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;thanks&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: several grammar questions (2)</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/SeveralGrammarQuestions2/zkkcz/post.htm#469664</link><pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 07:45:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:469664</guid><dc:creator>Avangi</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Hela wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;Dear teachers,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;1)&lt;/STRONG&gt; How would you qualify this time of &lt;STRONG&gt;genitive&lt;/STRONG&gt;, please? Which "title" would you give it? Is it some sort of "&lt;EM&gt;human activities&lt;/EM&gt;"? but I don't really like this.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="Arial Unicode MS"&gt;&lt;I&gt;love&lt;/I&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;I&gt;'s&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;I&gt; spirit, science&lt;/I&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;I&gt;'s&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;I&gt; influence,&amp;nbsp; my life&lt;/I&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;I&gt;'s&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;I&gt; aim, duty&lt;/I&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;I&gt;'s&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;I&gt; call . &lt;/I&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;wow! I remember genitive as a Latin case 60 years ago. What do you mean by "time"?&amp;nbsp; Your examples&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;are all possessive.&amp;nbsp; Joe's dog= the dog of Joe.&amp;nbsp; Love's spirit=the spirit of love.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; What am I missing?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;&lt;FONT face=Verdana color=#000000 size=2&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;2)&lt;/STRONG&gt; Which &lt;STRONG&gt;tenses &lt;/STRONG&gt;would you use in the following sentences and why?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;a) &lt;/STRONG&gt;Weather conditions&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color=darkorange&gt;have improved&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;/&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color=darkorange&gt;improved &lt;FONT color=black&gt;(?)&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;during the the last few days.&amp;nbsp;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;Present perfect means&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;the action has been [recently]&amp;nbsp;completed.&amp;nbsp; Simple past would mean it happened at some time in the past. The use of "during" means it was a continuing process.&amp;nbsp;"&lt;U&gt;Last&lt;/U&gt; few days" means it continued up to the present, at which time it was completed.(Present Perfect)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=1&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000 size=2&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- Is it possible to say "&lt;U&gt;the&lt;/U&gt; weather conditions" or is it definitely wrong?&amp;nbsp; &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;yes&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- can we say "&lt;U&gt;during the last days&lt;/U&gt;" = without "few"?&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt; yes, but it sometimes means the last days of the universe&lt;/FONT&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;b)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;There &lt;B&gt;&lt;U&gt;has been&lt;/U&gt; &lt;FONT color=black&gt;/&lt;/FONT&gt; was &lt;FONT color=black&gt;(?)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/B&gt; a real &lt;U&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;fall&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/U&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;(?)&lt;/STRONG&gt; in that town's population &lt;B&gt;&lt;U&gt;over&lt;FONT color=black&gt;/&lt;/FONT&gt;during&lt;/U&gt; &lt;FONT color=black&gt;(?)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/B&gt; the last decade.&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;Same tense situation as example 2.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Something happened over an extended period which just ended.&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;"Over" and "during" both work, in my humble opinion.&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;c&lt;FONT size=3&gt;)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;&lt;FONT face="Courier New"&gt;&lt;FONT color=#003366&gt;He &lt;STRIKE&gt;should&lt;/STRIKE&gt; &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;showed/assured ???&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;him that he doesn't have &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;U&gt;the&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;U&gt; time&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; / &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;U&gt;time&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;(?)&lt;/STRONG&gt; to pick up&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;the children &lt;B&gt;from&lt;FONT color=black&gt;/&lt;/FONT&gt;at &lt;FONT color=black&gt;(?)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/B&gt; school.&amp;nbsp;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt; I say both choices are acceptable in both your red group and your black group.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;&lt;FONT color=#ff1493&gt;Woops! where did the colors go?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- Would you please tell me if the &lt;STRONG&gt;article &lt;/STRONG&gt;here is obligatory and why?&amp;nbsp; &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;Why not?&amp;nbsp; the time=the time required / time=any time&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Both work.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- which &lt;STRONG&gt;preposition&lt;/STRONG&gt; should be used? are both possible?&amp;nbsp;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt; ANSWERED&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;3)&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;âDid you&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;FONT size=3&gt;do&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;B&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;both&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;B&gt; &lt;/B&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;U&gt;m&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/B&gt;ath&lt;B&gt;&lt;U&gt;s&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;FONT size=3&gt;exercises? The&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;FONT size=3&gt;first&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;FONT size=3&gt;was&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;FONT size=3&gt;easier than the second&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;.â âThat's right, the first was the easier of &lt;B&gt;&lt;U&gt;the two&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/B&gt;.â&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- Is the "&lt;STRONG&gt;M&lt;/STRONG&gt;" of &lt;U&gt;math&lt;/U&gt; capitalized ? +&amp;nbsp; should we say "ma&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;U&gt;th&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;" or "ma&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;U&gt;ths&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;"&amp;nbsp;(with âsâ = Br. Eng&amp;nbsp;; without Â«&amp;nbsp;s&amp;nbsp;Â» = Am. Eng&amp;nbsp;?)&amp;nbsp; &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;Math would be capitalized if you said,&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;"I just signed up for Math."&amp;nbsp; I doubt "maths" would be used in this context in either domain, but I could be wrong.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- Would you please tell me when one should use â&lt;STRONG&gt;both&lt;/STRONG&gt;â and â&lt;STRONG&gt;the two&lt;/STRONG&gt;â? Is it wrong to say âdid you do &lt;B&gt;&lt;U&gt;the two&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/B&gt; maths exercises...â and âthe first was the easier of &lt;B&gt;&lt;U&gt;both&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/B&gt;â ? &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;Both choices work in the first example but only "the two" works in the second.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;4)&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;FONT size=3&gt;My mother &lt;U&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;left&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;/U&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;B&gt;on&lt;/B&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;her&lt;/STRONG&gt; holiday&lt;/U&gt;/vacation &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;(&lt;U&gt;correct&lt;/U&gt;?)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color=black&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;/&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;U&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;went&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;B&gt;on&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/U&gt; holiday&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;STRIKE&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;(&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRIKE&gt;&lt;STRIKE&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;s?)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRIKE&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000 size=2&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;/vacation&amp;nbsp;a few weeks ago.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;5)&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;FONT size=3&gt;I have to&amp;nbsp;pick her up &lt;B&gt;at&lt;FONT color=black&gt;/&lt;/FONT&gt;from &lt;FONT color=black&gt;(?)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/B&gt; the airport on&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT size=3&gt; her return &lt;FONT color=black&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;/&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;U&gt;when she arrives&lt;/U&gt; (correct?).&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;I think these&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;are all okay.&amp;nbsp; "From" would be questioned by some.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;Many thanks,&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;Man, I needa break!&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hela&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: question on newspaper article with past perfect</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/QuestionNewspaperArticlePast-Perfect/zwxbx/post.htm#460986</link><pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 07:59:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:460986</guid><dc:creator>Mkyol</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;If I may trouble you once more, is it acceptable to use just the simple past? (it seems there is little ambiguity that would result)&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>question on newspaper article with past perfect</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/QuestionNewspaperArticlePastPerfect/zwxbh/post.htm</link><pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 07:42:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:460979</guid><dc:creator>Mkyol</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;The following is from a newspaper article:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"Hill told reporters in December, after visiting North Korea, that he &lt;STRONG&gt;had not seen&lt;/STRONG&gt; a draft of the declaration but that U.S. and North Korean negotiators &lt;STRONG&gt;had had&lt;/STRONG&gt; extensive talks about what the U.S. expects to see in the list of nuclear programs."&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'm wondering&amp;nbsp;about the&amp;nbsp;past perfect form.. seems to me it may be correct to just use simple past, like below:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;"Hill told reporters in December, after visiting North Korea, that he didn't see a draft of the declaration but that U.S. and North Korean negotiators had extensive talks about what the U.S. expects to see in the list of nuclear programs.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Is the reason because of 'told', to indicate that Hill told reporters after the events?&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: past tense or past perfect tense?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PastTensePastPerfectTense/2/zgdrw/Post.htm#447958</link><pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:08:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:447958</guid><dc:creator>Magic79</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;What do you think of this sentence, which I have read in the Arab News Newspaper of Wednesday 28 Nov. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The sentence&amp;nbsp; is as follows:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"Iran yesterday &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;announced&lt;/FONT&gt; that it &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;has built&lt;/FONT&gt; a new&amp;nbsp;missile with a range sufficient to put Israel and US bases in the Middle East within easy reach..."&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Source: Agence France Presse&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Dont you think that we shoud use the PAST PERFECT with&amp;nbsp;&lt;U&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;has built&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&amp;nbsp;instead of the present perfect? &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I believe that verbs such as, said, announced, told, reported, etc. are followed by past perfect when used in the simple past. That's why I am suspicious of the sentence above qouted from the Arab News Newspaper which had taken the article from the French news.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: I want to find some friend to talk and improve my english</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/FriendTalkImproveEnglish/14/zrrmq/Post.htm#417825</link><pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 03:09:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:417825</guid><dc:creator>Quangtrungvtv</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;Yesterday, I was joint in a interview in s-fone corp. It is difficult to pass this exam because it very hard. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;This exam include two parts : IQ part and English part. In IQ part , I did quite well , but English part I donât understand any sentence .&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I am studying lines-lines Books, intermediate level, fellow I want to write some sentence about this book.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;UNIT 1 : MODERN LIFE .&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Grammar in use :&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1In this unit show past ten, simple present tense .&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. this part talk about a story&amp;nbsp; of effect modern life . This is simple story but it practice use tense of English.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;UNIT 2 .FORTUNE&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Grammar :&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Talking about the past :&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Grammar in use :&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;OL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;look at the photographs and headline of the newspaper article .&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Question one : where does story take place ?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Answer : story talk about fortune of life . It is talking about Chris Bod , a programmer . After sell his house , with 145,000 $ he had taken plan to Las Vegas . Chris sitting all day in Casino and finally he lost all his money . He comeback London and live in a small flat . sine , He âve given up gambling.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Rules : the articale contain four tenses for talking about the past .&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;OL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;underlines positive&amp;nbsp; and negative examples of each these tense &lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/OL&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;. The simple past &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The past continuous &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The past perfect &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The present perfect.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;How do we form each tense find example regular and irregular&amp;nbsp; verbs.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Always</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Always/vdmbn/post.htm#352321</link><pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 02:32:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:352321</guid><dc:creator>Yankee</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Kooyeen wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;&lt;br&gt;That's true in general, but when we have a context and some particles like "never", "always", "already", etc., it seems&amp;nbsp; to me that that distinction is not so clear anymore. For example:&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;I've already seen that movie / I already saw that movie&lt;/b&gt; - In context, they can be used in the same way. &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;This is quite common.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;I've never driven a car / I never drove a car&lt;/b&gt; - In context, I think they can be used the same way too. &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;There are definitely some contexts where these two would definitely &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; be interchangeable in AmE.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;I've never known how to use it/ I never knew how to use it &lt;/b&gt;- I was told these can be used the same way too &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;I think this would be extremely context-dependent.&lt;/font&gt; (I still don't know how to use it)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for "always"... &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&lt;b&gt;- I know you don't like Japan and...&lt;br&gt;- What? I do like Japan! Actually, I('ve) always wanted to go there on vacation...&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt; (what's wrong with taking out "have"?)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&lt;b&gt;- Way to go! You are a champion! I always knew you were the best!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt; (what's wrong with simple past here? I think it's even better than the present perfect)&lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;Let me throw some questions back at you here, Kooyeen.&amp;nbsp; Why did you use 'were' in this sentence?&amp;nbsp; And do you think 'were' would also be used if the sentence began "I've always known ..."?&lt;img src="/emoticons/emotion-5.gif" alt="Wink [;)]" /&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;- Good post Jim! I('ve) always said your explanations are among the best!&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt; (again, anything wrong? Using simple past doesn't imply that I don't think that of your expplanations anymore) &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;Why did you use '&lt;b&gt;are&lt;/b&gt;' in this sentence but '&lt;b&gt;were&lt;/b&gt;' in the last example you gave?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&lt;b&gt;- &lt;strike&gt;Whose that car over there?&lt;/strike&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/b&gt;&lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;Correction:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt; Whose car is that over there? / Whose car is over there?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;- I don't know. It's been parked there for a month, I always saw it there in the same position, nobody never moved it...&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt; (simple past, but the car is still there...)&lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;This combination of sentences sounds awful to me and the second half doesn't sound natural to me at all.&amp;nbsp; I would expect the end to be&lt;/font&gt; &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;&lt;b&gt;'I always &lt;u&gt;see&lt;/u&gt; it there in the same position, nobody ever &lt;u&gt;moves&lt;/u&gt; it.'&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Hi Kooyeen&lt;br&gt;I put some comments in the quote (in &lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;red&lt;/font&gt;).&lt;br&gt;
Some people try to claim that Americans almost never use the present perfect,
but that's definitely &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; true.&amp;nbsp; However, I believe that we Americans do tend to
use it less often than our British cousins.&amp;nbsp; Especially in contexts
where both the past simple or the present perfect are possible (the action is complete), we're
more likely to choose the past simple.&lt;br&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>