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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Singular verbs tag:Constructions' matching tags 'Singular verbs' and 'Constructions'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aSingular+verbs+tag%3aConstructions&amp;tag=Singular+verbs,Constructions&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Singular verbs tag:Constructions' matching tags 'Singular verbs' and 'Constructions'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3170.31378)</generator><item><title>Re: has to be, have to be</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/HasToBeHaveToBe/gzbjg/post.htm#526139</link><pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:13:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:526139</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>The language seems to be undergoing a change in the agreement rules for &lt;i&gt;there&lt;/i&gt; constructions.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In casual speech the singular verb seems to satisfy many people, no matter what follows!&amp;nbsp; (Compare &lt;i&gt;hay&lt;/i&gt; in Spanish -- &lt;i&gt;there is/are&lt;/i&gt; -- always singular.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#39;m guilty of the same, especially with contracted &lt;i&gt;there&amp;#39;s&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;There&amp;#39;s tons of them just like it in the suburbs.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;There&amp;#39;s cookies and cake in the kitchen if anyone wants a snack.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;There&amp;#39;s plenty of ways to do it if you just try.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Go figure.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CJ&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: singular or plural? what concern(s)</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/SingularPluralConcern/zxhzq/post.htm#488511</link><pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:36:31 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:488511</guid><dc:creator>Yoong Liat</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;What&lt;/em&gt; sometimes seems to have a plural force but nevertheless requires a singular verb. Clearly we would say &lt;em&gt;What is needed is a spotlight&lt;/em&gt;, but what if &lt;em&gt;spotlights&lt;/em&gt; -&amp;nbsp;the plural form -&amp;nbsp;is used.instead. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The options are these:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; What is needed here is spotlights.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;?&amp;nbsp; What are needed are spotlights.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;X&amp;nbsp; What is needed are spotlights.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The first construction, with both verbs in the singular, is the best by far.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(The Right Word at the Right Time)&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: everyone looks like they are</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/EveryoneLooksLikeTheyAre/zhbmj/post.htm#452498</link><pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:02:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:452498</guid><dc:creator>Yoong Liat</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Philip wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Yoong Liat wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt; 
&lt;P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Anduy wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;Everyone looks like they are enjoying the party.&lt;BR&gt;Everyone look like they are enjoying the party.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Please tell me which sentence is the correct one.&lt;BR&gt;Thank you.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Although 'everyone' means 'all the people', a singular verb has to be used. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Every apple is rotten.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Every one of the apples is rotten.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Every one of my friends is helpful.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Everyone is helpful.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Everybody is helpful.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00"&gt;As long as you see 'every' in&amp;nbsp; a sentence the verb in such constructions has to be singular.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;Correct.&amp;nbsp; Assuming you are a teacher, I'm wondering if you have a way of explaining to your students what you have said here and then using a plural pronoun (they) to refer to the singular antecedent.&amp;nbsp; I can't explain it to my own native logic.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Could you give me an example of such a sentence so that I can hope to explain, using my non-native logic?&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: everyone looks like they are</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/EveryoneLooksLikeTheyAre/zhblv/post.htm#452476</link><pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:08:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:452476</guid><dc:creator>Philip</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Yoong Liat wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Anduy wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;Everyone looks like they are enjoying the party.&lt;BR&gt;Everyone look like they are enjoying the party.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Please tell me which sentence is the correct one.&lt;BR&gt;Thank you.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Although 'everyone' means 'all the people', a singular verb has to be used. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Every apple is rotten.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Every one of the apples is rotten.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Every one of my friends is helpful.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Everyone is helpful.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Everybody is helpful.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00"&gt;As long as you see 'every' in&amp;nbsp; a sentence the verb in such constructions has to be singular.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;Correct.&amp;nbsp; Assuming you are a teacher, I'm wondering if you have a way of explaining to your students what you have said here and then using a plural pronoun (they) to refer to the singular antecedent.&amp;nbsp; I can't explain it to my own native logic.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: everyone looks like they are</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/EveryoneLooksLikeTheyAre/zhbvz/post.htm#452358</link><pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:57:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:452358</guid><dc:creator>Yoong Liat</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Anduy wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;Everyone looks like they are enjoying the party.&lt;BR&gt;Everyone look like they are enjoying the party.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Please tell me which sentence is the correct one.&lt;BR&gt;Thank you.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Although 'everyone' means 'all the people', a singular verb has to be used. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Every apple is rotten.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Every one of the apples is rotten.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Every one of my friends is helpful.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Everyone is helpful.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Everybody is helpful.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As long as you see 'every' in&amp;nbsp; a sentence the verb in such constructions has to be singular.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Right construction</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/RightConstruction/zzcxq/post.htm#443002</link><pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:20:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:443002</guid><dc:creator>Yoong Liat</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Hamza wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Which is the correct construction?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;A number of people &lt;strong&gt;like&lt;/strong&gt; ice-cream.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;A number of people &lt;strong&gt;likes&lt;/strong&gt; ice-cream.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I was confused because if we are talking about &lt;em&gt;number&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp; than it should be&amp;nbsp;&lt;em&gt;likes.. &lt;/em&gt;Right???&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br&gt;Use a plural verb after "A number of ... "&amp;nbsp; 

&lt;p&gt;Use a singular verb after "The number of ... " &lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: is or are?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/IsOrAre/zbwcn/post.htm#424877</link><pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:15:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:424877</guid><dc:creator>Yoong Liat</dc:creator><description>1. There &lt;b&gt;is &lt;/b&gt;a boy and a girl in the playground.
&lt;p&gt;2. There&lt;b&gt; is &lt;/b&gt;a boy, a girl and an old man in the playground.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3. There&lt;b&gt; is &lt;/b&gt;a boy and two girls in the playground.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;4. There &lt;b&gt;are&lt;/b&gt; two girls and a boy in the playground.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br&gt;Some language experts now regard &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;there is&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;as
a fixed, unvarying idiom that can precede a (plural) list of nouns so
long as the first noun is in the singular. However, the constructions
with a singular verb might attract criticism from old-fashioned purists.&lt;b&gt;(&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Right Word at&lt;/b&gt; &lt;b&gt;the Right Time)&lt;/b&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: 'I'm one of those kids who think/thinks?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ThoseKids/vqdnr/post.htm#413780</link><pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:57:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:413780</guid><dc:creator>Tanit</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Maple wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;&lt;p&gt;There are bugs in English grammar systems while handing number problems, as I observed, but as for this very sentence, I vote for &lt;em&gt;know&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hi, &lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I'd personally say &lt;i&gt;I'm one of those kids who think&lt;/i&gt;, too. &lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I only wanted to say that, if native speakers and writers choose to use both&amp;nbsp;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt; and &lt;i&gt;"&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color="#000000"&gt;&lt;i&gt;the use of the singular verb in these
constructions is common, even among the best writers"&lt;/i&gt; (quoting the American Heritage), maybe we (ESL learners) shouldn't decide what is right or wrong &lt;img src="/emoticons/emotion-1.gif" alt="Smile [:)]" /&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: One of the ... that ...</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/OneOfTheThat/vxprp/post.htm#407216</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:37:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:407216</guid><dc:creator>Zj.frank</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Tanit wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;

Hi, good question!&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;

I was wandering whether a slightly different point of view exists as for the &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&lt;b&gt;subject &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt;of the sentence:&lt;br&gt;

He is &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&lt;b&gt;one &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt;[of the few] that &lt;b&gt;knows &lt;/b&gt;the solution to the problem.&lt;br&gt;

or&lt;br&gt;

He is &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&lt;b&gt;one of the few&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt; that &lt;b&gt;know &lt;/b&gt;the solution to the problem.&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;

After some research, I came across &lt;a href="http://www.bartleby.com/64/C001/043.html#ONE" target="_blank" title="http://www.bartleby.com/64/C001/043.html#ONE"&gt; this: &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;



&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&lt;b&gt;"one of
those who&lt;/b&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Constructions such as &lt;i&gt;one of
those people who&lt;/i&gt; pose a different problem. Many people argue that &lt;i&gt;who &lt;/i&gt;should be
followed by a plural verb in these sentences, as in &lt;i&gt;He is one of those people
who just donât take ânoâ for an answer&lt;/i&gt;. Their thinking is that the relative
pronoun &lt;i&gt;who &lt;/i&gt;refers to the &lt;i&gt;plural &lt;/i&gt;noun people, not to &lt;i&gt;one&lt;/i&gt;. They would extend the
rule to constructions with inanimate nouns, as in &lt;i&gt;The sports car turned out to
be one of the most successful products that were ever manufactured in this
country&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;



&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&amp;nbsp;But the use of the singular verb in these
constructions is common, even among the best writers. In an earlier survey, 42
percent of the Usage Panel accepted the use of the singular verb in such
constructions. Itâs really a matter of which word you feel is most appropriate
as the antecedent of the relative pronounâ &lt;i&gt;one &lt;/i&gt;or the plural noun in the of
phrase that follows it. Note also that when the phrase containing &lt;i&gt;one &lt;/i&gt;is
introduced by the definite article, the verb in the relative clause must be
singular: &lt;i&gt;He is the only one of the students who has (not have) already taken
Latin.&lt;b&gt;"&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;For what it's worth, heere are the Google search results for
&lt;a href="http://www.google.it/search?num=100&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;rlz=1B2GGFB_enIT228IT228&amp;amp;q=%22one+of+the+few+that%22+site%3Abbc.co.uk&amp;amp;btnG=Search" target="_blank" title="http://www.google.it/search?num=100&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;rlz=1B2GGFB_enIT228IT228&amp;amp;q=%22one+of+the+few+that%22+site%3Abbc.co.uk&amp;amp;btnG=Search"&gt;&lt;br&gt;
"one of the few of that" &lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.google.it/search?num=100&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;rlz=1B2GGFB_enIT228IT228&amp;amp;q=%22one+of+the+few+that%22+site%3Abbc.co.uk&amp;amp;btnG=Search" target="_blank" title="http://www.google.it/search?num=100&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;rlz=1B2GGFB_enIT228IT228&amp;amp;q=%22one+of+the+few+that%22+site%3Abbc.co.uk&amp;amp;btnG=Search"&gt;&lt;br&gt;

"one of the few of who" &lt;/a&gt; in the BBC website only. If you consider
only sentences in simple present , you will find both "have" and "has",
"do" and "does" and so on.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks, Tanit! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was writing my previous reply while you posted this one.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The link you provided is really useful.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: One of the ... that ...</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/OneOfTheThat/vxprr/post.htm#407201</link><pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:18:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:407201</guid><dc:creator>Tanit</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Zj.frank wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;Dear all:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
He is one of the few that &lt;b&gt;knows &lt;/b&gt;the solution to the problem.&lt;br&gt;
or&lt;br&gt;
He is one of the few that &lt;b&gt;know &lt;/b&gt;the solution to the problem.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Do
the two "that"s denote different things? Shall we say that the first
"that" denotes "he" while the second "that" denotes "the few"? If so,
do the two sentences have slightly different meanings?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
It seems that the first sentence is more often used. Here is an example from &amp;lt;&lt;font size="-1"&gt;http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/films/int/1mm/gluttony/-/films/oneminutemovies/watch/snowball.shtml?gluttony.shtml&amp;gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;hr&gt;&lt;font size="-1"&gt;This is the best film on here... and &lt;b&gt;one of the few that bothers &lt;/b&gt;with any sense of narrative and character.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;hr&gt;Surely
there are a few films that bother with some sense of narrative and
character. Is it to say that in such case, we usually use "that
bothers" rather than "that bother"? Thanks in advance for any
enlightenment!&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;

Hi, good question!&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;

I was wandering whether a slightly different point of view exists as for the &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&lt;b&gt;subject &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt;of the sentence:&lt;br&gt;

He is &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&lt;b&gt;one &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt;[of the few] that &lt;b&gt;knows &lt;/b&gt;the solution to the problem.&lt;br&gt;

or&lt;br&gt;

He is &lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&lt;b&gt;one of the few&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt; that &lt;b&gt;know &lt;/b&gt;the solution to the problem.&lt;br&gt;

&lt;br&gt;

After some research, I came across &lt;a href="http://www.bartleby.com/64/C001/043.html#ONE" target="_blank" title="http://www.bartleby.com/64/C001/043.html#ONE"&gt; this: &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;

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&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&lt;b&gt;"one of
those who&lt;/b&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Constructions such as &lt;i&gt;one of
those people who&lt;/i&gt; pose a different problem. Many people argue that &lt;i&gt;who &lt;/i&gt;should be
followed by a plural verb in these sentences, as in &lt;i&gt;He is one of those people
who just donât take ânoâ for an answer&lt;/i&gt;. Their thinking is that the relative
pronoun &lt;i&gt;who &lt;/i&gt;refers to the &lt;i&gt;plural &lt;/i&gt;noun people, not to &lt;i&gt;one&lt;/i&gt;. They would extend the
rule to constructions with inanimate nouns, as in &lt;i&gt;The sports car turned out to
be one of the most successful products that were ever manufactured in this
country&lt;/i&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;



&lt;p&gt;&lt;font color="#0000ff"&gt;&amp;nbsp;But the use of the singular verb in these
constructions is common, even among the best writers. In an earlier survey, 42
percent of the Usage Panel accepted the use of the singular verb in such
constructions. Itâs really a matter of which word you feel is most appropriate
as the antecedent of the relative pronounâ &lt;i&gt;one &lt;/i&gt;or the plural noun in the of
phrase that follows it. Note also that when the phrase containing &lt;i&gt;one &lt;/i&gt;is
introduced by the definite article, the verb in the relative clause must be
singular: &lt;i&gt;He is the only one of the students who has (not have) already taken
Latin.&lt;b&gt;"&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;For what it's worth, heere are the Google search results for
&lt;a href="http://www.google.it/search?num=100&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;rlz=1B2GGFB_enIT228IT228&amp;amp;q=%22one+of+the+few+that%22+site%3Abbc.co.uk&amp;amp;btnG=Search" target="_blank" title="http://www.google.it/search?num=100&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;rlz=1B2GGFB_enIT228IT228&amp;amp;q=%22one+of+the+few+that%22+site%3Abbc.co.uk&amp;amp;btnG=Search"&gt;&lt;br&gt;
"one of the few of that" &lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.google.it/search?num=100&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;rlz=1B2GGFB_enIT228IT228&amp;amp;q=%22one+of+the+few+that%22+site%3Abbc.co.uk&amp;amp;btnG=Search" target="_blank" title="http://www.google.it/search?num=100&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;rlz=1B2GGFB_enIT228IT228&amp;amp;q=%22one+of+the+few+that%22+site%3Abbc.co.uk&amp;amp;btnG=Search"&gt;&lt;br&gt;

"one of the few of who" &lt;/a&gt; in the BBC website only. If you consider
only sentences in simple present , you will find both "have" and "has",
"do" and "does" and so on.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;hr&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;font color="#006400"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;br&gt;EDITED: "wandering" is a typo for "wondering". My apologies.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;

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