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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Singular verbs tag:Singular nouns' matching tags 'Singular verbs' and 'Singular nouns'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aSingular+verbs+tag%3aSingular+nouns&amp;tag=Singular+verbs,Singular+nouns&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Singular verbs tag:Singular nouns' matching tags 'Singular verbs' and 'Singular nouns'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3191.21962)</generator><item><title>Re: lies/exist/stay</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/LiesExistStay/gnbnb/post.htm#565506</link><pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 07:03:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:565506</guid><dc:creator>Avangi</dc:creator><description>singular noun, third person singular verb:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; The bucket &lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;lies / &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#ff0000;"&gt;exists&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt; on the floor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;plural noun, third person plural verb:&amp;nbsp; The glasses &lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#ff0000;"&gt;lie&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; / exist / stay&lt;/span&gt; on that stand.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; - A.</description></item><item><title>Re: What is Concord?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhatIsConcord/glgxx/post.htm#557155</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:49:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:557155</guid><dc:creator>Yoong Liat</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Hi B-A&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Below is for your information.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span&gt;What is âconcordâ?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font&gt;There must be &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.buzzin.net/english/gramm.htm"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;grammatical&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font&gt; logic or coherence in the links between parts of a &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.buzzin.net/english/sentence.htm"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;sentence&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;This is called &amp;#39;agreement&amp;#39; or &amp;#39;concord&amp;#39;. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;b&gt;EXAMPLES&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;The &lt;b&gt;boy is&lt;/b&gt; swimming. &lt;br /&gt;[singular subject, singular verb form]&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;&lt;font&gt;The &lt;b&gt;boys are&lt;/b&gt; swimming. &lt;br /&gt;[plural subject, plural verb form] &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;The shop [singular] &lt;b&gt;opens&lt;/b&gt; at nine o&amp;#39;clock. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;On Thursdays the shops [plural] &lt;b&gt;open&lt;/b&gt; late. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;Sometimes confusion occurs because a statement begins in the singular but then drifts into the plural: &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;b&gt;wrong&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It can be argued that a person has the right to know when they are dying. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;The easiest solution to this problem is to make the subject plural and its verb plural as well: &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;b&gt;correct &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It can be argued that &lt;b&gt;people have&lt;/b&gt; the right to know when &lt;b&gt;they&lt;/b&gt; are dying. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font&gt;Sometimes a singular &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.buzzin.net/english/nouns.htm"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;noun&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt; is used to denote a plural or a collective thing - such as &amp;#39;government&amp;#39; or &amp;#39;parliament&amp;#39;. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font&gt;Either the singular or the plural &lt;/font&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.buzzin.net/english/verbs.htm"&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:black;"&gt;&lt;font&gt;verb&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt; form may be used - but the important thing is to be consistent. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;b&gt;wrong &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The government prefers to let matters rest, but events may make them change their minds.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;b&gt;correct &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The government &lt;b&gt;prefers&lt;/b&gt; to let matters rest, but events may make &lt;b&gt;it&lt;/b&gt; change &lt;b&gt;its&lt;/b&gt; mind. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;font&gt;&lt;b&gt;correct&lt;/b&gt; &lt;br /&gt;The government &lt;b&gt;prefer&lt;/b&gt; to let matters rest, but events may make &lt;b&gt;them&lt;/b&gt; change &lt;b&gt;their&lt;/b&gt; minds. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re:  One or two</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/OneOrTwo/ggqcr/post.htm#535262</link><pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:55:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:535262</guid><dc:creator>Goodman</dc:creator><description>Abil,&lt;br /&gt;Yes, you are correct in &amp;quot;formal&amp;quot; usage. &lt;br /&gt;This may help clear any doubts:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;div&gt; &lt;div&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://crofsblogs.typepad.com/english/2005/02/neither_or_eith.html"&gt;http://crofsblogs.typepad.com/english/2005/02/neither_or_eith.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#0000ff;"&gt;Laura asks:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#0000ff;"&gt;How about using &amp;quot;&lt;span style="COLOR:#ff00ff;"&gt;neither&amp;quot; versus &amp;quot;either&amp;quot;?&lt;/span&gt; I transcribe for doctors, and this is one rule I just can&amp;#39;t get straight in my head. &lt;br /&gt;I need to figure out a way&amp;nbsp;to remember which to use when, because some of the docs use them indiscriminately.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#0000ff;"&gt;Great question!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#0000ff;"&gt;&amp;quot;Either&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;neither&amp;quot; are both singular adjectives meaning &amp;quot;one or the other of two.&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Neither&amp;quot; of course means &amp;quot;not the first &lt;br /&gt;one and not the second one.&amp;quot;In formal writing, we usually use a singular verb because &amp;quot;either&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;neither&amp;quot; signal that one of the following &lt;br /&gt;nouns is the subject, but not both:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a id="more"&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;div&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#0000ff;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Either Bill or Bob is going to the conference.&lt;/em&gt; (One or the other is going, but not both.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Neither Joan nor Jane likes sushi.&lt;/em&gt; (= Joan doesn&amp;#39;t like sushi. Jane doesn&amp;#39;t like sushi either!)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#0000ff;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Notice that we say &amp;quot;either...or&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;neither...nor.&amp;quot; In informal English&lt;/strong&gt;, &lt;span style="COLOR:#60bf00;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;most people would say &amp;quot;Neither Joan OR Jane LIKE sushi.&amp;quot; That&amp;#39;s &lt;br /&gt;all right in conversation, &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;but in formal documents you should prefer the formal usage.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#0000ff;"&gt;Of course we have a confusing exception to this rule. You can use a plural verb if you have a plural noun next to the verb:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Either Joan or the Kennedys are going to the conference.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#0000ff;"&gt;But put the singular noun closer to the verb, and it goes back to singular!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Either the Kennedys or Joan is going to the conference.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#0000ff;"&gt;And it&amp;#39;s the same with &amp;quot;neither&amp;quot;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#0000ff;"&gt;Neither Jane nor her brothers like sushi.&lt;br /&gt;Neither her brothers nor Jane likes sushi.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#0000ff;"&gt;Of course the verb will be plural if both nouns are plural:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#0000ff;"&gt;Either the Smiths or the Robinsons are meeting us at the station.&lt;br /&gt;Neither the Canadians nor the Americans are interested in this problem.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: More than one</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MoreThanOne/zxblq/post.htm#486879</link><pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 05:37:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:486879</guid><dc:creator>Hoa Thai</dc:creator><description>Hi LiJ,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Perhaps you caught that error in my recent post. It was illogical for me to write &amp;quot;more than (one options).&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Since I made that error, it is better for me to borrow this text from The American Heritage Book of English Usage to share with you:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;Hereâs a riddle: How can you have more than one and still have only
one? The answer: When you are skinning a cat. When a noun phrase
contains &lt;i&gt;more than one&lt;/i&gt; and a singular noun, the verb is normally singular: &lt;i&gt;There
is more than one way to skin a cat. More than one editor is working on
that project. More than one field has been planted with oats.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;When &lt;i&gt;more than one&lt;/i&gt; is followed by &lt;i&gt;of&lt;/i&gt; and a plural noun, the verb is plural: &lt;i&gt;More than one of the paintings were stolen. More than one of the cottages are for sale.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;When &lt;i&gt;more than one&lt;/i&gt; stands alone, it usually takes a singular verb, but it may take a plural verb if the notion of multiplicity predominates: &lt;i&gt;The operating rooms are all in good order. More than one is&lt;/i&gt; (or &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt;) &lt;i&gt;equipped with the latest imaging technology.&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt; &lt;br /&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: S or not S this is the problem</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/SOrNotSThisIsTheProblem/zlcxl/post.htm#472475</link><pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:59:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:472475</guid><dc:creator>Grammar Geek</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;Does anybody want -- once you conjugate the verb "to do" as you have in "Does" the other verb takes the bare infinitive form. That means it's the "to X" version without the "to." &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;However, &lt;EM&gt;the word "Flicers"&lt;/EM&gt;&amp;nbsp;is a singular noun, so it takes the singular verb form, means.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Does anybody &lt;STRONG&gt;want &lt;/STRONG&gt;to to tell me what the word "Flickers" &lt;STRONG&gt;means&lt;/STRONG&gt;?&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Confused with verbs</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ConfusedWithVerbs/zkpzh/post.htm#471162</link><pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:26:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:471162</guid><dc:creator>Grammar Geek</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;The sentences are correct, but your supervisor is out to lunch. Obviously, third-person singular nouns like "the agency" take third-person singular verbs, which DO end in S, for &lt;EM&gt;normal, declarative&lt;/EM&gt; sentences. The agency reviews...&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;However, in these sentences, you're using a different voice: &lt;EM&gt;It's recommended that&lt;/EM&gt; will be followed by the subjunctive, which uses the bare infinitive form (review, revise) as it does in the stuff you're reading. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It's right, but not for the reason your supervisor is suggesting.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: many a failure</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ManyAFailure/zkxnl/post.htm#471013</link><pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:42:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:471013</guid><dc:creator>Mister Micawber</dc:creator><description>&lt;br&gt;Yes it means the same thing.&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt; Many a&lt;/i&gt; is a slightly dated or literary way of saying it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;There's many a slip 'twixt the cup and the lip.&lt;br&gt;After many a summer dies the swan.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;and from the Columbia Guide:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;table align="center" bgcolor="#ffffff" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="2"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td align="center"&gt;&lt;font color="#9c9c63" size="+1"&gt;many a&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;is a locution that is followed by a singular noun, which in turn takes a singular verb: &lt;i&gt;Full many a flower is born to blush unseen â¦&lt;/i&gt; (Thomas Gray, &lt;i&gt;Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard&lt;/i&gt;)&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: There is/are a infinity</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ThereIsAreAInfinity/zwzlc/post.htm#458543</link><pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 16:24:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:458543</guid><dc:creator>MrPedantic</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;Hello HT,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Hoa Thai wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;My old note stated: &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;'&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;I&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;a number of '&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;/I&gt;is plural and &lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;&lt;I&gt;'the number of'&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt; is singular.&lt;BR&gt;We can apply this logic of yours to &lt;I&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;'a number of '&lt;/FONT&gt; &lt;/I&gt;too, right? &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1. ?There &lt;U&gt;is a number of&lt;/U&gt; reasons why my post may be misleading.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. There &lt;U&gt;are a number of&lt;/U&gt; reasons why my post may be misleading.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Though&amp;nbsp;I do&amp;nbsp;often encounter "a number of" + singular verb, it&amp;nbsp;tends to ring&amp;nbsp;a little oddly to me. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I think the difference between "there is a number of" and "there is an infinity of" may be that in that latter case, it sometimes makes sense to shift the focus to "infinity"; whereas in the former case, it seldom makes&amp;nbsp;sense to shift the focus to "number". (In other words, it may be significant that there is an "infinity" of X; but that there is a "number" of Y goes without saying.)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;That said, many people &lt;EM&gt;do&lt;/EM&gt; use a singular verb with "a number of", on the grounds that a singular noun requires a singular verb! &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;All the best,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;MrP&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: one or two was</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/OneOrTwoWas/2/zgqhq/Post.htm#451842</link><pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:57:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:451842</guid><dc:creator>Hoa Thai</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Avangi wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Good morning, Hoa Thai,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I appreciate the research.&amp;nbsp; I think your second example is a little bit different, but I'm not sure I can explain it. The gist of it is, ten years ago you might have gotten one or two [things] while now you get twelve.&amp;nbsp; Since the verb is "to be" you can exchange the subject with the predicate nominative and the meaning is the same:&amp;nbsp; "Betty is my sister.&amp;nbsp; My sister is Betty."&amp;nbsp; So your sentence could read, "A decade ago, the norm [the normal amount] &lt;u&gt;was&lt;/u&gt; one or two."&amp;nbsp; Or you could say, "The amount &lt;u&gt;was&lt;/u&gt; two or three."&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;"Norm" and "amount" are singular nouns and would take the singular verb "was."&amp;nbsp;I think it would be&amp;nbsp;like saying, "The score &lt;u&gt;was&lt;/u&gt; two or three," and then turning it around and saying, "Two or three &lt;u&gt;was&lt;/u&gt; the score."&amp;nbsp; Nobody would say, "Two or three &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;were&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; the score."&amp;nbsp; But I don't know how to justify it formally.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regards,&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; A.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(Thanks, Philip)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;P.S.&amp;nbsp; Looking back at Jack London's piece, we missed one of his baddies:&amp;nbsp; "Most of those oyster pirates was shot or died in jail."&amp;nbsp; "Most" is a plural noun, like "many", and takes the plural verb, "were."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi Avangi,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your "exchanging the subject with the predicate nominative" comment reinforces what I learned but did not often pay attention.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thank you for spending your time helping me to think a bit deeper.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Best Regards,&lt;br&gt;Hoa Thai&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: one or two was</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/OneOrTwoWas/zgqrm/post.htm#451719</link><pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:05:40 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:451719</guid><dc:creator>Avangi</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;Good morning, Hoa Thai,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I appreciate the research.&amp;nbsp; I think your second example is a little bit different, but I'm not sure I can explain it. The gist of it is, ten years ago you might have gotten one or two [things] while now you get twelve.&amp;nbsp; Since the verb is "to be" you can exchange the subject with the predicate nominative and the meaning is the same:&amp;nbsp; "Betty is my sister.&amp;nbsp; My sister is Betty."&amp;nbsp; So your sentence could read, "A decade ago, the norm [the normal amount] &lt;U&gt;was&lt;/U&gt; one or two."&amp;nbsp; Or you could say, "The amount &lt;U&gt;was&lt;/U&gt; two or three."&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;"Norm" and "amount" are singular nouns and would take the singular verb "was."&amp;nbsp;I think it would be&amp;nbsp;like saying, "The score &lt;U&gt;was&lt;/U&gt; two or three," and then turning it around and saying, "Two or three &lt;U&gt;was&lt;/U&gt; the score."&amp;nbsp; Nobody would say, "Two or three &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;U&gt;were&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; the score."&amp;nbsp; But I don't know how to justify it formally.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Regards,&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; -&amp;nbsp; A.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;(Thanks, Philip)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;P.S.&amp;nbsp; Looking back at Jack London's piece, we missed one of his baddies:&amp;nbsp; "Most of those oyster pirates was shot or died in jail."&amp;nbsp; "Most" is a plural noun, like "many", and takes the plural verb, "were."&lt;/P&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>