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Re: "I've been knowing him for years"?

Anonymous — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:42:30 GMT

2nona the brit:

It may not be "standard English". It may be smart one. We do not discuss the obedience to the rule. It's duteous and overwhelming. We discuss the reasons for the rule to exist.

By the way, this rule which prevents the stative verbs from being used in Perfect Continuous is not the only and perhaps not the last attack on this tense which is wanted to be eradicated from the language by many.

Re: until now+ present perfect

richard_s — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:49:56 GMT

This is pretty much correct. The second sentence is definitely fine. Actually, the 'until now' is redundant in the first sentence. Â Also, it might be more natural to use the perfect continuous in this sentence. Â Perfect continuous is used to show that an actionÂ continues until now, except with stative verbs and reporting verbs (such as 'consider' which was used in the original sentence). Â The present perfect usually has this meaning when it is combined with a time reference given by 'since' or 'for', but otherwise indicates a relationship between a past event and a present event.

(I hope that's not too confusing!)

Re: STATIVE VERB

Goodman — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:35:04 GMT

<< think it is right to say most stative verbs like "feel" can not be used in progressive>>

No, this is a misconception.

He isn't feeling well.

Is the word "feeling" an adjective?

No, [felling] is still a verb in present progressive form.

i.e. how are you felling with you flu?
I am still not feeling too well

STATIVE VERB

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 22:38:03 GMT

Hi,
I think it is right to say most stative verbs like "feel" can not be used in progressive. Does that mean when most of them that can't be used in progressive tenses are used progressively, they are to be considered an adjective?

He isn't feeling well.

Is the word "feeling" an adjective?

Re: Stative verb: part of progressive or an adjective?

CalifJim — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:13:41 GMT

Anonymous
some stative verbs can take on progressive verb forms, whereas most of them don't.

Hmmm. Most of them? I'm not sure that part is true. It may be. Some verbs have both stative and dynamic uses / meanings.

He is feeling good. = He feels good. This stative verb can be used in the progressive tense.

He is tasting the pie. = He is taking a taste of the pie. Not a stative use of taste. Progressive tense. (Can also be used as a non-progressive stative when it means has a (certain) taste: The pie tastes too sweet.)

He is thinking about the test result. = He is actively pondering the result of the test. Not a stative use of think. Progressive tense. (Can also be used as a non-progressive stative when it means believe: He thinks the test was fair.)

None of the -ing words above (feeling, tasting, thinking) can be considered adjectives.

Re: Stative verb: part of progressive or an adjective?

Mister Micawber — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 05:53:36 GMT

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He is playing tennis. -- I think the word 'play' is active, thus allows for the use of progressive.-- YES

He is feeling good/humble. -- Here, I think the word 'feel' is stative, where the word 'feel' could be used in an active sense too.
Does the word 'feeling' an adjective here??-- Not an adjective; it is 'feel' in the present progressive.

He is tasting the pie. -- Here the stative verb 'taste' seems to be used in progressive tense. Does that mean it is a part of a progressive tense like "He is playing tennis"?-- YES, it is an active verb here. = 'He is sampling the pie'. Cf: 'the pie tastes good' (= the pie has a good flavor).

He is thinking about the test result. -- Here, I think the word "think" is stative. Does that mean the word "thinking" in the sentence is acting as an adjective? NOT an adjective; it is 'think' in the present progressive.

MANY stative verbs can take on progressive verb forms.
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Re: "than" as a conjunction

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 05:44:34 GMT

Hi, Thank you.

I have some questions on this though:

1. She has more money than her husband/her husband does/her husband has. --
I think all three can be used Yes
but wonder why this one can have 'her husband does' as a viable option, whereas the other two don't seem to have that option. They do, ie you can say 'than her husband does' in #2 and #3. I think you meant to refer here to 'her husband ~~does~~ has'. 'Has' is OK here, because it is the main verb, as in 'She has more money'.

I think we can have the pattern "She has more money than her husband does" because what is implied possibly is "She does have more money than her husband does," and I think it is OK to assume a possbility of the auxiliary verb "does"? being there.

Likewise, could we think in a similar or the same line for these? As long as we can fit the auxiliary verb (is this auxiliary anyway?), then, the structure "... more than he/she does" is possible?

I think these are stative verbs:

consider  She (does consider) considers it more suitable than her husband/her husband does
like:      She (does like) likes this food more than her husband/her husband does.
feel:   She (does feel) feels her cousin is nicer than than her husband/hur husband does.

So, my overall argument is that if you can fit the auxiliary verb "does" in the main (first) verb part, then you can use "does" in an appropriate place after the conjunction "than"; and only exception is when you have a "be" verb in the main part of the sentence like this:

Not good: She is feeling better than her husband does.

Stative verb: part of progressive or an adjective?

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 01:07:38 GMT

Hi,

I think it is correct to say that some stative verbs can take on progressive verb forms, whereas most of them don't.

He is playing tennis. -- I think the word 'play' is active, thus allows for the use of progrssive.

He is feeling good/humble. -- Here, I think the word 'feel' is stative, where the word 'feel' could be used in an active sense too.
Does the word 'feeling' an adjective here??

He is tasting the pie. -- Here the stative verb 'taste' seems to be used in progressive tense. Does that mean it is a part of a progressive tense like "He is playing tennis"?

He is thinking about the test result. -- Here, I think the word "think" is stative. Does that mean the word "thinking" in the sentence is acting as an adjective?

past perfect or past perfect continuous

Anonymous — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:41:48 GMT

Is this a past perfect tense or a past perfect continous tense?

They went back to ***, where they had been committed to the grace of God for the work they ...

One more thing: Does the term "progressive tense" mean the same as "continous tense". I think lt is stated that a stative verb cannot be used with progressive tenses.

Re: "I've been knowing him for years"?

Anonymous — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:29:30 GMT

Goodman:

I didnât not change the content of your post
No, you did. You said that I had said "I stopped know it". I've never written so. I wrote "I stopped knowing it".

If you say âI forgot I have a 10 oâclock meetingâ Can you equate this to âI donât know I have a meeting at 10 oâclock ? No!

You are right, I can't equate this. But I surely can equate "I forgot the password" to "I don't know the password". I can agree with you that "to know" IS NOT ALWAYS durative. But you should agree that IT CAN BE durative, hence yo should permit using it with Perfect Progressive in particular cases.

Again, the problem arose when someone spread the impossibility to use the stative verbs in Progressive Tense (with which I completely agree) onto another Progressive Tense (Perfect), with which I disagree. We can't use them in PROGRESSIVE TENSE, not in PROGRESSIVE TENSES. Despite having similar names, those two tenses are very different.